
#37 OpenAI/ Hugging Face Post-Mortem (AI doomerism or Marketing?)
Did OpenAI’s models go rogue, or is the AI industry using the Hugging Face breach to push ethics washing and top-down regulation? In this episode, we unpack the incident, examine the METR report, and explore perspectives from industry leaders including Demis Hassabis and Mark Zuckerberg. We also discuss the core arguments around AI existential risk and superintelligence safety. 👋 Enjoying our conversations? Reach out and share your thoughts and journey with us. Don’t forget to subscribe whilst you’re here :) Timestamps 00:00 – Highlights 01:46 – Intro 08:18 – OpenAI × Hugging Face incident 27:40 – Aftermath: ethics washing, terms of engagement and regulation 51:16 – What does AI doom look like? References & links PauseAI p(doom) chart Incident breakdown Andrew Wu’s Substack: the investigation and ethics washing METR incident report The Guardian: UK MPs on artificial superintelligence BBC: AI and threats to human rights Yann LeCun on X Elon Musk on AI doom Jensen Huang on AI doom Support us ☕ Buy Dev & Doc a coffee Meet the hosts 👨🏻⚕️ Doc – Dr. Joshua Au Yeung 🤖 Dev – Zeljko Kraljevic Follow Dev & Doc YouTube Spotify Apple Podcasts Substack Enquiries 📧 Devanddoc@gmail.com Credits 🎞️ Editor – Dragan Kraljević 🎨 Brand design and art direction – Ana Grigorovici


