There is a generation of bond traders who have never seen yields this high, levels they would have dreamt of five years ago. The US deficit is running at 5.5 to 6% of GDP with the economy nowhere near a recession, and there is no political will in sight to fix it. That combination alone isn't the buy signal it looks like.
Two live risks sit in front of this call. Wednesday brings the Treasury's buyback announcement, and Bessent has already said he will at least double the size, with room to go further. Friday brings the CPI print that Fed chair Kevin Warsh has effectively staked his credibility on, after reversing from downplaying inflation in July to calling the 2% target non negotiable at Jackson Hole.
Elvis sits down with veteran macro trader Jonny Matthews, 25 years of institutional experience at Brevan Howard and Citigroup, to unpack why he isn't rushing to buy bonds despite the highest yields in a generation, what August's payrolls really mean for the Fed, and why Japan's own hawkish pivot is a warning against betting on long yields falling.
In this episode:
Why elevated yields reflect strength as much as strain, and the three forces, inflation, fiscal discipline and corporate supply, keeping them there
The US deficit at 5.5 to 6% of GDP, with next to no political will to close it
Nominal GDP running near 8%, and why Treasury yields still have catching up to do
August's payrolls: a 106,000 six month average against the 30,000 to 35,000 needed just to hold unemployment steady
Why the case for rent disinflation may already be stalling, against Fed governor Waller's dovish read
PCE inflation above target for 64 straight months, with services alone contributing 2.5 percentage points
Why the Fed's September decision now hinges almost entirely on Friday's CPI print
What Japan's hawkish pivot did to its yield curve, and why it's a warning against being short long bonds
Jonny has spent 25 years trading macro at the highest institutional level. This is not retail speculation or headline chasing. It is rigorous, independent analysis from someone who has sat at the table.
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0:00 Intro: do we buy bonds
0:51 The framing question, and why high yields alone don't mean buy
1:19 The three forces keeping yields elevated: inflation, fiscal discipline, corporate supply
2:50 Why higher yields reflect strength, not a debt doom loop
3:17 The deficit and debt to GDP since Clinton, the GFC and the pandemic
4:19 The 5.5 to 6% deficit, and why there's no political will to close it
4:54 Nominal GDP against the ten year yield, and the catching up still to do
6:32 Interest costs creeping from 3.5% to 4.5% of GDP
8:02 Entitlement spending, and Europe's worse position
9:44 This week's risks: Wednesday's buyback announcement and Friday's CPI
11:17 The yen, the BOJ's hawkish pivot, and Bessent's swap facility theory
13:12 Nonfarm payrolls: the call that played out, and cyclical versus non-cyclical jobs
15:08 The 106,000 six month average, and what it means for unemployment
17:31 PCE inflation, Warsh's reversal since Jackson Hole, and 64 months above target
20:31 Break even inflation at 2.4%, and the Fed's single data point trap
22:10 Waller's dovish dissent, and why rent disinflation may already be stalling
24:04 What Japan's yield curve just did, and why it's a warning on short bonds
26:01 Wrap up: still cautious, and the trade into September
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