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Embracing Marketing Mistakes

Prohibition PR

Welcome to Embracing Marketing Mistakes, the world’s leading irreverent podcast for senior marketers who are tired of the polished corporate b*llshit.

Join Chris Norton and Will Ockenden, founders of the award-winning Prohibition PR, as they sit down with industry leaders to dissect the career-ending f*ck-ups they’d rather forget. The show moves past any pretty vanity metrics to uncover the brutal, honest truths behind marketing disasters, from £30,000 SEO black holes and completely failed companies, to social media crises that went globally viral for all the wrong reasons.

We don't just celebrate the f*ck-ups; we extract the tactical blueprints you need to avoid them yourself. If you are a business owner, or a CMO looking for a competitive advantage that only comes from real-world experience, this is your weekly masterclass in resilience and strategy.

Listen for: Raw stories from top brands, ex-McKinsey strategists, and industry disruptors.
Learn from: The errors that cost thousands and the recoveries that saved careers.
Get ahead by: Turning other people's nasty disasters into your unfair market advantage.

If you have a story to tell and would like to appear on the show, tell us your biggest marketing mistake and drop us a line.

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Thursday · 4 min
Lexus Asked Fans Their Favourite Steering Wheel
Mat Thomas joined us back in episode 49 as he reveals the surprising social media misstep that held Lexus back for years. He explains how the brand’s social team that's tucked inside the PR department and disconnected from strategy, audiences, and brand codes that ended up chasing engagement numbers rather than meaningful impact. From posts about Zodiacs, audiobooks, and even favourite steering wheels, Mat breaks down how the pursuit of “high engagement” pushed Lexus toward light, attention-grabbing content with no commercial value. He also reflects on the moment when brands rushed to post about the Queen’s death, highlighting how reactive, irrelevant posts exposed a deeper issue in social thinking. Mat shares how Lexus eventually realigned its approach, rebuilt the team, and refocused social content on real brand objectives. Marketers will learn why relevance matters more than reactions and how to avoid the engagement traps that look good online but deliver little in the real world. Listen to episode 49 here. Do you have a F*ck up to share? Your competitors are being named by AI. Are you? One of our clients went from being named in 4 of 50 buyer prompts to 19 in 90 days. Book your free AI visibility check with Chris here. 👉 [Book free AI Visibility Check] 👈 Subscribe to our newsletter The mistakes we see marketers make, every fortnight. 👉 [Subscribe here] 👈 Follow Chris: X, TikTok, LinkedIn Follow Will: LinkedIn Follow The Show: TikTok, YouTube
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Tuesday · 52 min
EP 134: The 20-Searches-A-Month Page That Booked Seven Sales Calls
Sam Dunning co-owned an agency with two other founders, has hosted the Breaking B2B podcast since 2020, and now runs Breaking B2B, an AI SEO agency for SaaS brands. In this episode of Embracing Marketing Mistakes, Sam explains why a keyword with tiny search volume can be worth more than one with thousands, why he thinks many marketers are stuck in what he calls the top funnel trap, and why AI tools recommend brands on buying-intent searches but not on how-to questions. Sam walks through a page Breaking B2B built for a YouTube agency that works with SaaS companies, on the best YouTube agencies for SaaS in 2026. He says it gets about 20 searches a month on Ahrefs, yet it brought seven booked calls for 50k ACV deals within a month of publishing and got the agency recommended in ChatGPT, Claude and Google AI Overviews. He also shares his 90 days to revenue playbook, built live around Prohibition, why he recommends the sales book Gap Selling to marketers, and the early mistake where outsourced, unchecked content wiped out his own agency's rankings. Do you have a F*ck up to share? Your competitors are being named by AI. Are you? One of our clients went from being named in 4 of 50 buyer prompts to 19 in 90 days. Book your free AI visibility check with Chris here. 👉 [Book free AI Visibility Check] 👈 Subscribe to our newsletter The mistakes we see marketers make, every fortnight. 👉 [Subscribe here] 👈 Follow Chris: X, TikTok, LinkedIn Follow Will: LinkedIn Follow The Show: TikTok, YouTube
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October 20 · 56 min
EP 133: Uber Eats' First Marketing Hire On AI Search
Jenna Hannon was the first marketing hire at Uber Eats, where the team launched the service in roughly a new city every week for about a year and a half. She left in 2020, became a fractional CMO for Series B and C startups, and is now co-founder of Hatter, a San Francisco AI search agency and platform she started with Peter Holc, formerly of Microsoft and Deliveroo. Chris Norton has been testing Hatter on Prohibition's own website. In this episode of Embracing Marketing Mistakes, Jenna explains why she thinks Google is fine despite ChatGPT, why most company websites have too many gaps to show up in AI answers, and why the backlink game is over. Jenna walks through the fractional CMO mistake that led to Hatter: a startup doing about 10 million in revenue that relied mostly on ads, until investors pulled out at the last minute, the ad spend stopped and revenue dried up overnight. She also shares why 90 percent of the AI search traffic Hatter sees still comes from ChatGPT, why content needs commercial intent and regular updates more than volume, why niche and trade press now carry more weight, and the car journey to the Sahara with OpenAI co-founder Greg Brockman, who turned down her offer to invest. Do you have a F*ck up to share? Your competitors are being named by AI. Are you? One of our clients went from being named in 4 of 50 buyer prompts to 19 in 90 days. Book your free AI visibility check with Chris here. 👉 [Book free AI Visibility Check] 👈 Subscribe to our newsletter The mistakes we see marketers make, every fortnight. 👉 [Subscribe here] 👈 Follow Chris: X, TikTok, LinkedIn Follow Will: LinkedIn Follow The Show: TikTok, YouTube
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October 15 · 6 min
You Waited 15 Minutes for a Taxi. Now Seven Feels Rude
We return to consumer behaviouralist and CX expert Ken Hughes, first featured in episode 92, to revisit the moment that transformed how he believes brands should approach the customer. Ken explains how he spent the early part of his speaking career delivering stock, product first keynotes before realising that audiences and clients were focused on their own business challenges, not his rehearsed narrative. He introduces his blue dot consumer idea and shows how it reshapes everything, highlighting how customers now expect brands to move toward them in the same effortless way Uber and Lyft bring the car to you and Uber Eats or Deliveroo bring the restaurant to your door. Ken also explores how impatience, high speed connectivity and a world far removed from Commodore 64 loading screens have reset expectations. If you want your brand to stay relevant in an age of Gen Alpha, Gen Z and one tap convenience, this conversation will sharpen how you think about customer centricity. Click here for the full episode 92. Do you have a F*ck up to share? Your competitors are being named by AI. Are you? One of our clients went from being named in 4 of 50 buyer prompts to 19 in 90 days. Book your free AI visibility check with Chris here. 👉 [Book free AI Visibility Check] 👈 Subscribe to our newsletter The mistakes we see marketers make, every fortnight. 👉 [Subscribe here] 👈 Follow Chris: X, TikTok, LinkedIn Follow Will: LinkedIn Follow The Show: TikTok, YouTube
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October 13 · 58 min
EP 132: Why LinkedIn Reach Is Down And What Still Works
John Espirian, the self-styled relentlessly helpful LinkedIn guy, joins Chris Norton and Will Ockenden on Embracing Marketing Mistakes to explain why LinkedIn reach is down for almost everyone and what still works. John is an independent LinkedIn consultant and author, runs the Espresso Plus community, and organises the UpLift Live conference. John covers why direct messages avoid the algorithm, why you should comment ten times for every post, how LinkedIn newsletters feed search and AI tools, which content formats to test, and why most people do not need Premium. He also shares his own mistakes, including the year he stopped marketing and had his worst financial year, and why he now reserves 20 percent of his work time for marketing. Do you have a F*ck up to share? Your competitors are being named by AI. Are you? One of our clients went from being named in 4 of 50 buyer prompts to 19 in 90 days. Book your free AI visibility check with Chris here. 👉 [Book free AI Visibility Check] 👈 Subscribe to our newsletter The mistakes we see marketers make, every fortnight. 👉 [Subscribe here] 👈 Follow Chris: X, TikTok, LinkedIn Follow Will: LinkedIn Follow The Show: TikTok, YouTube
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October 8 · 9 min
My TEDx Talk Got 2,000 Views. Everyone Else Got 30,000
What happens when you pour your heart into a TEDx talk, expect it to skyrocket, and… nothing? We are joined with Niraj Kapoor back in episode 95, and dive into a brutally honest story of resilience, reinvention, and why failure isn’t fatal. Our guest shares how he went from a thriving career in London to losing everything, job, income, marriage, before clawing his way back through vulnerability and persistence. We talk about the reality behind those glossy success stories, why some talks go viral while others barely register, and the lessons learned when life forces you to start over. If you’ve ever felt crushed by a setback or wondered why your big moment didn’t land, this conversation will give you perspective, hope, and a few laughs along the way. Click here to listen to the full episode 95. Do you have a F*ck up to share? Your competitors are being named by AI. Are you? One of our clients went from being named in 4 of 50 buyer prompts to 19 in 90 days. Book your free AI visibility check with Chris here. 👉 [Book free AI Visibility Check] 👈 Subscribe to our newsletter The mistakes we see marketers make, every fortnight. 👉 [Subscribe here] 👈 Follow Chris: X, TikTok, LinkedIn Follow Will: LinkedIn Follow The Show: TikTok, YouTube
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October 6 · 52 min
EP 131: How An SEO Intern Got A Mashable Journalist To Cover Her Pitch
Britt Klontz started her career as an SEO agency intern, got a Mashable journalist to cover an infographic by following the journalist's own pitching guide, and now runs Vada Communications as a solo digital PR consultant. In this episode of Embracing Marketing Mistakes, Britt explains why so many PR pitches fail, why that is rarely the journalist's fault, and why a rejection can be the most useful reply you get. Britt walks through her own mistake, leading a pitch to an editor at Metal Construction News with too many stats, and how his reply turned into a template she now uses for every outlet. She also shares her 2026 coverage tips, from proprietary data and journalist-run Substacks to contributor columns that feed AI search, plus the tools she uses to track results. Do you have a F*ck up to share? Your competitors are being named by AI. Are you? One of our clients went from being named in 4 of 50 buyer prompts to 19 in 90 days. Book your free AI visibility check with Chris here. 👉 [Book free AI Visibility Check] 👈 Subscribe to our newsletter The mistakes we see marketers make, every fortnight. 👉 [Subscribe here] 👈 Follow Chris: X, TikTok, LinkedIn Follow Will: LinkedIn Follow The Show: TikTok, YouTube
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October 1 · 4 min
I Spent 30 Years Building Everyone Else's Brand
We had Mark Terry-Lush back in episode 94 started his career in the glory days of magazines when Vogue was the size of a phone book and PR was full of big personalities. He worked with some of the most iconic names in the industry and learned how to tell and sell a story. But after 30 years, he realised his biggest mistake: confusing adaptability with focus. In this episode, Mark shares why chasing every opportunity can leave you feeling lost, what happens when you spend decades building everyone else’s brand instead of your own, and how to find clarity in a noisy world. Click here to listen to the full episode 94. Do you have a F*ck up to share? Your competitors are being named by AI. Are you? One of our clients went from being named in 4 of 50 buyer prompts to 19 in 90 days. Book your free AI visibility check with Chris here. 👉 [Book free AI Visibility Check] 👈 Subscribe to our newsletter The mistakes we see marketers make, every fortnight. 👉 [Subscribe here] 👈 Follow Chris: X, TikTok, LinkedIn Follow Will: LinkedIn Follow The Show: TikTok, YouTube
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September 29 · 56 min
EP 130: Gerry Hopkinson Sold His Agency, Stayed Five Years, And Became A Cultural Strategist
A 20-year agency founder built his reputation turning Pizza Express back into a cult favourite, then years later made the mistake he now calls his biggest regret. Gerry Hopkinson, founder of Unity and now a cultural strategist, joins Embracing Marketing Mistakes to explain how he sold his agency, why he stayed on for five more years, and the commercial decision that cost him a loyal client. Gerry walks through the Pizza Express "living lab," a real restaurant handed over to customers, chefs, designers, and even an acoustics professor to redesign together, and the customer-psychology insight that made it work. Then he tells the story of Absinthe, the Pernod Ricard brand his agency grew by 300% through a platform called Think Work Play, before admitting he dropped the client to chase a bigger, more famous brand, and regretted it immediately. Do you have a F*ck up to share? Your competitors are being named by AI. Are you? One of our clients went from being named in 4 of 50 buyer prompts to 19 in 90 days. Book your free AI visibility check with Chris here. 👉 [Book free AI Visibility Check] 👈 Subscribe to our newsletter The mistakes we see marketers make, every fortnight. 👉 [Subscribe here] 👈 Follow Chris: X, TikTok, LinkedIn Follow Will: LinkedIn Follow The Show: TikTok, YouTube
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September 25 · 10 min
Six People Trolled Me. It Felt Like Sixty Thousand
Social media can feel like the best networking tool in the world, until it throws you a curveball. We were joined by Asif Choudry back in episode 96. We talk about the early days of Twitter when it felt like a friendly space for real conversations, and how one superhero-themed event turned into a lesson in handling criticism. From swag bags to unexpected backlash, this is a story about resilience and why staying visible matters even when things get uncomfortable. We also dive into the reality of trolling, online pile-ons, and why ignoring negativity is often the smartest move. If you’ve ever had that sinking feeling after a public misstep or worried about what people might say, this conversation will give you practical advice and a reminder that mistakes don’t define you, they shape you. Click here to listen to the full episode 96. Do you have a F*ck up to share? Your competitors are being named by AI. Are you? One of our clients went from being named in 4 of 50 buyer prompts to 19 in 90 days. Book your free AI visibility check with Chris here. 👉 [Book free AI Visibility Check] 👈 Subscribe to our newsletter The mistakes we see marketers make, every fortnight. 👉 [Subscribe here] 👈 Follow Chris: X, TikTok, LinkedIn Follow Will: LinkedIn Follow The Show: TikTok, YouTube
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September 24 · 7 min
Spending £30k on Influencers for Five Signups
We revisit Andy Lambert back in episode 93 to unpack the influencer marketing moment that changed how he thinks about influence in B2B. Andy explains how his team approached creators like a media buy, treating the partnership as a quick transaction and expecting one post to shift perception and drive signups. He shares the campaign that made the lesson unavoidable. They spent £30,000 on a Facebook Live with a North American influencer, stayed late to watch the registrations roll in, and saw almost nothing. The mistake was not the talent. It was confusing awareness with intent, and expecting demand capture from activity that was really demand creation. Andy then breaks down what he changed next. He focused on niche operators like agency owners, insisted partners genuinely use the product, and invested in relationships that build trust over time. If you are planning influencer spend in B2B, this episode will sharpen how you judge impact and choose the right value exchange. Click here for the full episode 93. Do you have a F*ck up to share? Your competitors are being named by AI. Are you? One of our clients went from being named in 4 of 50 buyer prompts to 19 in 90 days. Book your free AI visibility check with Chris here. 👉 [Book free AI Visibility Check] 👈 Subscribe to our newsletter The mistakes we see marketers make, every fortnight. 👉 [Subscribe here] 👈 Follow Chris: X, TikTok, LinkedIn Follow Will: LinkedIn Follow The Show: TikTok, YouTube
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September 22 · 46 min
EP 129: Unbounce's VP Of Marketing Explains What Actually Wins AI Search Visibility Now
A VP of Marketing running two brands at once shares what's working in AI search visibility right now, and admits to one of the messiest direct mail campaigns a B2B marketer has confessed to on this show. Val Riley, VP of Marketing and Strategy at Unbounce and Insightly CRM, joins Embracing Marketing Mistakes to explain why she pays a dedicated contractor to represent her brand on Reddit, how a 2.5-billion-conversion research report drives both PR pickup and AI citations, and why removing one line from a signup form quadrupled trial signups overnight. Then Val takes us back to the "growth at all costs" era of SaaS marketing, when her team shipped root beer float kits that leaked in the office lobby, a money tree that dumped potting soil across a prospect's desk, and agency logos printed on glass that arrived in pieces. Despite the chaos, the company sold for many millions of dollars, and Val explains what she'd keep from that era of marketing and what she wouldn't touch again. Do you have a F*ck up to share? Your competitors are being named by AI. Are you? One of our clients went from being named in 4 of 50 buyer prompts to 19 in 90 days. Book your free AI visibility check with Chris here. 👉 [Book free AI Visibility Check] 👈 Subscribe to our newsletter The mistakes we see marketers make, every fortnight. 👉 [Subscribe here] 👈 Follow Chris: X, TikTok, LinkedIn Follow Will: LinkedIn Follow The Show: TikTok, YouTube
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September 17 · 14 min
I Made the Worst Ad in British History
Kevin Chesters reveals the painful truth behind what he calls the worst advert ever made in British history. This is a forensic breakdown of ego, bad process and the lessons every marketer needs to hear. Back in episode 102 of Embracing Marketing Mistakes, Kevin walks us through the infamous Big Cheese Dipper campaign. From ignoring clear strategic signals to forcing a flawed creative idea onto TV, this is a masterclass in how good teams end up making terrible work. If you’ve ever wondered how to stop bad advertising before it happens, this conversation is essential listening. Listen to the full episode 102 here. Do you have a F*ck up to share? Your competitors are being named by AI. Are you? One of our clients went from being named in 4 of 50 buyer prompts to 19 in 90 days. Book your free AI visibility check with Chris here. 👉 [Book free AI Visibility Check] 👈 Subscribe to our newsletter The mistakes we see marketers make, every fortnight. 👉 [Subscribe here] 👈 Follow Chris: X, TikTok, LinkedIn Follow Will: LinkedIn Follow The Show: TikTok, YouTube
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September 15 · 49 min
EP 128: Why CFOs Keep Killing Influencer Budgets
Influencer spend hit $32.55 billion in 2025, and most brands still can't prove it works. In this Prohibition PR webinar, Chris Norton and Will Ockenden break down why influencer marketing keeps losing boardroom arguments, the mistake that turned a Brit Awards influencer activation into a creator revolt, and the six-part framework that turns influencer spend into a revenue channel instead of an awareness line item. Chris covers the boardroom case for influencer marketing, the Mastercard Brit Awards story, and how HelloFresh beat its own paid acquisition costs on TikTok using creators like Mindy Kaling. Will then walks through a practical framework: choosing influencers for persuasion rather than reach, building long-term partnerships (including Burgess pet food's ongoing deal with Ronnie the Mini Lop), mapping creators to the full buyer journey, feeding top-performing organic content into paid media, using influencers to win AI and social search discovery, and measuring outcomes instead of vanity metrics. Do you have a F*ck up to share? Your competitors are being named by AI. Are you? One of our clients went from being named in 4 of 50 buyer prompts to 19 in 90 days. Book your free AI visibility check with Chris here. 👉 [Book free AI Visibility Check] 👈 Subscribe to our newsletter The mistakes we see marketers make, every fortnight. 👉 [Subscribe here] 👈 Follow Chris: X, TikTok, LinkedIn Follow Will: LinkedIn Follow The Show: TikTok, YouTube
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September 10 · 15 min
One Tweet About Sleeping Beauty Ended in Death Threats
Back in episode 99 with Sarah Waddington, we dive into the story of a well-intentioned tweet about a Biff and Chip book image, posted during the height of the Me-Too era. What was meant to be a harmless comment, shared in the midst of the chaos of parenting, quickly spiraled into misreporting by UK tabloids, global backlash, online abuse, and even death threats. As her career and personal life were thrust into the public eye, the turning point came when credible voices stepped in to offer support. Through it all, the lesson emerged: consistency, values, and resilience matter far more than any momentary outrage. We explore how professionals who have experienced public shame are uniquely positioned to guide others through similar challenges, reminding us that clarity of purpose and standing by your principles can help weather the storm. Tune in for an insightful conversation about the power of maintaining your values in a world quick to judge, and the strength that comes from embracing the lessons learned in adversity. Click here to listen to the full episode 99. Do you have a F*ck up to share? Your competitors are being named by AI. Are you? One of our clients went from being named in 4 of 50 buyer prompts to 19 in 90 days. Book your free AI visibility check with Chris here. 👉 [Book free AI Visibility Check] 👈 Subscribe to our newsletter The mistakes we see marketers make, every fortnight. 👉 [Subscribe here] 👈 Follow Chris: X, TikTok, LinkedIn Follow Will: LinkedIn Follow The Show: TikTok, YouTube
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September 8 · 43 min
EP 127: Professor Jim Macnamara Says Most Of The PR Industry Is Still Measuring The Wrong Thing
A professor who built his entire career on communication measurement almost couldn't answer the question that started it all. Professor Jim Macnamara joins Embracing Marketing Mistakes to explain why so much of PR and marketing still confuses outputs with outcomes, and what changed after a client rejected his activity report and demanded results instead. Jim walks through the framework behind AMEC and the Barcelona Principles, a real Volkswagen case study that shifted marketing budget from 5% to 15%, his global evaluation work for the World Health Organization during COVID-19 (including a video series that hit 400 million views), and his skeptical read on whether AI and large language models are handing PR a golden age or a new set of unproven metrics to hide behind. Listen to the full conversation now and learn what measurement stands out in the marketing world. Do you have a F*ck up to share? Your competitors are being named by AI. Are you? One of our clients went from being named in 4 of 50 buyer prompts to 19 in 90 days. Book your free AI visibility check with Chris here. 👉 [Book free AI Visibility Check] 👈 Subscribe to our newsletter The mistakes we see marketers make, every fortnight. 👉 [Subscribe here] 👈 Follow Chris: X, TikTok, LinkedIn Follow Will: LinkedIn Follow The Show: TikTok, YouTube
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September 3 · 7 min
He Asked for Honest Feedback. Then Never Spoke to Me
If you have ever watched a brilliant marketing strategy die in a sign‑off meeting, this episode is for you. We unpack the real reasons ideas fail in the boardroom and what senior marketers can do to read the room, create emotional buy in and keep stakeholders focused on what matters. Faris Aranki, founder of Shear Ghetto Consulting and former top‑tier strategy advisor, explains his IQ x EQ x FQ model for success back in episode 96. IQ is the quality of your idea, EQ is your emotional intelligence and stakeholder awareness, and FQ is your focus quotient, the ability to prioritise and resist shiny‑object distractions. Miss any one pillar and your strategy stays on the hard drive. Click here to listen to the full episode. Do you have a F*ck up to share? Your competitors are being named by AI. Are you? One of our clients went from being named in 4 of 50 buyer prompts to 19 in 90 days. Book your free AI visibility check with Chris here. 👉 [Book free AI Visibility Check] 👈 Subscribe to our newsletter The mistakes we see marketers make, every fortnight. 👉 [Subscribe here] 👈 Follow Chris: X, TikTok, LinkedIn Follow Will: LinkedIn Follow The Show: TikTok, YouTube
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September 1 · 47 min
EP 126: The Emotion Behind Every B2B Purchase Nobody Markets To - Talia Wolf
Most B2B brands are interchangeable, and Talia Wolf built a career proving it. In this episode, Talia Wolf, founder of GetUplift and creator of the emotional targeting framework, explains why most products test identical on every measurable feature, and the two emotional clusters, self-image and social image, that drive buying decisions. She tells the story of the book cover mistake she caught before print, when beta readers including Rand Fishkin and Wil Reynolds told her the professional, generic design was missing her own voice, and how the comic-book redesign became a number one Amazon bestseller in its category. She also explains why she won't let AI write client copy or synthesize research, and why conversion optimization now has to happen everywhere a buyer forms an opinion, not only on a company's own website. You will learn the real reason people buy from you, why hypothesis-free A-B testing wastes budget, and why authenticity beats polish once your market looks the same. Do you have a F*ck up to share? Your competitors are being named by AI. Are you? One of our clients went from being named in 4 of 50 buyer prompts to 19 in 90 days. Book your free AI visibility check with Chris here. 👉 [Book free AI Visibility Check] 👈 Subscribe to our newsletter The mistakes we see marketers make, every fortnight. 👉 [Subscribe here] 👈 Follow Chris: X, TikTok, LinkedIn Follow Will: LinkedIn Follow The Show: TikTok, YouTube
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August 25 · 54 min
EP 125: The PR Launch That Cleared The Building
A CIPR fellow with nearly six decades in PR says the industry still protects itself from its own scandals. In this episode, Robert Minton-Taylor, a CIPR fellow recognised at the institute's 70th anniversary and a 24-year PR lecturer at Leeds Beckett University, argues that no PR professional has ever been sanctioned for their industry's complicity in Grenfell, the Post Office Horizon scandal, the infected blood scandal, or the NHS maternity scandal. He tells the story of the former intern who says he failed her over the Hillsborough police statements, then shares four named mistakes from his own agency career: a grunge band that cleared a client event with a power drill, a hotel bar that served the wrong soft drink to a client, a spelling mistake that nearly cost him his job at one of the world's biggest PR agencies, and a pitch document typo he still gets asked about. You will learn why the PR industry still has an accountability problem, and the specific checks he says every account handler needs before anything goes out the door. Do you have a F*ck up to share? Your competitors are being named by AI. Are you? One of our clients went from being named in 4 of 50 buyer prompts to 19 in 90 days. Book your free AI visibility check with Chris here. 👉 [Book free AI Visibility Check] 👈 Subscribe to our newsletter The mistakes we see marketers make, every fortnight. 👉 [Subscribe here] 👈 Follow Chris: X, TikTok, LinkedIn Follow Will: LinkedIn Follow The Show: TikTok, YouTube
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August 18 · 1 hr
EP 124: He Built His Own AI Company Then Shut It Down
A toxic hire nearly cost him his agency. Then he made a similar mistake again, this time trying to build his own AI instead of renting one. In this episode, Roger Hurni, founder and Chief Brand Strategist of Off Madison Ave, whose client roster includes Nike, Wells Fargo, PetSmart, and P.F. Chang's, breaks down the culture-first hiring lesson he learned the hard way, why his team abandoned an in-house AI build for an off-the-shelf tool, and the AI philosophy he wrote for his own staff: expand your options, never let AI replace your judgment. Trained in behavior design under Stanford's BJ Fogg and the author of Outthink, Outperform, he also explains why he believes 90% of LinkedIn is now AI-generated content, and the test he runs on every new hire to separate real thinkers from people who copy and paste AI output. You will learn why culture fit can matter more than raw talent, when renting beats building with a new technology, and how to use AI without letting it think for you. Do you have a F*ck up to share? Your competitors are being named by AI. Are you? One of our clients went from being named in 4 of 50 buyer prompts to 19 in 90 days. Book your free AI visibility check with Chris here. 👉 [Book free AI Visibility Check] 👈 Subscribe to our newsletter The mistakes we see marketers make, every fortnight. 👉 [Subscribe here] 👈 Follow Chris: X, TikTok, LinkedIn Follow Will: LinkedIn Follow The Show: TikTok, YouTube
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