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The Podcast For Inquiry

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A podcast for scientific, skeptical, secular, rational and humanistic inquiry. They've got answers? We've got questions.

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  • S5 · E21
    Wednesday · 58 min

    Abortion Facts and Fallacies, with Adrian Pettersen

    Adrian Petterson is a doctoral researcher at the University of Toronto. She researches digital technologies for abortion access with a focus on the United States after the Dobbs v Jackson Women's Health Organization decision. Adrian also has abortion doula training and volunteers on the Exhale Pro-Voice after abortion support textline which provides non-judgemental support for people who have had abortions in the United States and Canada. In today's show, Adrian defines what abortion is, and how it differs from a miscarriage. She explains the different types of abortion - pill vs. procedure based. Adrain gives us a history of women's access to abortion services, along with the legal and practical hurdles women have faced and do face for safe medical care. She also provides some insight into the deceptive practices of so-called pregnancy crisis centres. And throughout, Adrian corrects Leslie's many mistaken impressions and factual errors on these various topics. Adrian's website is adrianpetterson.ca and the direct link to her zine: https://www.adrianpetterson.ca/after-abortion-support-zine — Sofree Humanism in Action conference: www.sofree.ca Podcast for Inquiry is hosted by Leslie Rosenblood and brought to you by the Centre for Inquiry Canada. Join today! Produced by Zack Dumont, Martin Zielinski, and Leslie Rosenblood. Support Podcast for Inquiry on Patreon: https://patreon.com/PodcastforInquiry. Send your thoughts and feedback to podcast@centreforinquiry.ca.

  • S5 · E18
    October 14 · 59 min

    Pyramid schemes are alive and well: Bridget Read on Little Bosses Everywhere

    In today's episode, Bridget talks about her book, Little Bosses Everywhere, a deep dive into pyramid scheme companies. She starts with defining what a pyramid scheme is, and why multi-level marketing firms - to use their preferred terminology - are more like a Bernie Madoff-style Ponzi scheme than a traditional company selling products. Bridget covers how MLM firms exploit their employees financially, the psychological techniques they use to keep them engaged and invested, and the political and legal machinations that have allowed them to thrive over the decades. Bridget Read is a features writer at New York magazine. Her subjects include the powerful and the powerless, scammers and their marks, and regular people in ridiculous circumstances. Her writing has also appeared in The Cut, Vogue, The New York Review of Books, Bookforum, n+1, The New Republic, and Vice. Find out more about pyramid schemes at pyramidschemealert.org. Podcast for Inquiry is hosted by Leslie Rosenblood and brought to you by the Centre for Inquiry Canada. Join today! Produced by Zack Dumont, Martin Zielinski, and Leslie Rosenblood. Support Podcast for Inquiry on Patreon: https://patreon.com/PodcastforInquiry. Send your thoughts and feedback to podcast@centreforinquiry.ca.

  • S5 · E19
    September 30 · 1 hr 15 min

    Quantum physics is both very real and very, very weird, with Dr. Adam Becker

    Dr. Adam Becker is a journalist and astrophysicist. Adam is the author of What is Real, a history of quantum mechanics. His most recent book is More Everything Forever, which dismantles tech billionaires' grandiose delusions about the future of AI and humanity. In addition to his writing, Adam is the creator and host of the podcast Dreaming Against the Machine, where he hosts conversations about what a good future could look like. In today's episode, Adam talks about the physics of Newton, Einstein, and Quantum Mechanics. This of course leads to a discussion about Schroedinger's Cat, Heisenberg's uncertainty principle, what Einstein called "spooky action at a distance". Quantum mechanics is both incredibly accurate and self-contradictory, which is why what it means - what is real - continues to be fiercely debated among physicists today. Podcast for Inquiry is hosted by Leslie Rosenblood and brought to you by the Centre for Inquiry Canada. Join today! Produced by Zack Dumont, Martin Zielinski, and Leslie Rosenblood. Support Podcast for Inquiry on Patreon: https://patreon.com/PodcastforInquiry. Send your thoughts and feedback to podcast@centreforinquiry.ca.

  • S5 · E18
    September 16 · 1 hr 19 min

    Society suffers as sports gambling insinuates itself into people's lives: Darragh McGee

    Dr. Darragh McGee (Instagram) is an academic at the University of Bath and the author of Imitation Games. He details the deceptive practices gambling companies employ to entice new customers, and how they are encouraged to place bets habitually. In-play betting is very different from simply wagering on the outcome of a match - which leads to a discussion about the nature of addiction and its relationship with problem gambling. Like many firms, gambling companies prioritize profit above people, and Darragh compares gambling firms with Big Tobacco. Darragh describes how gambling firms make it trivially easy to sign up, and deliberately challenging to leave. Podcast for Inquiry is hosted by Leslie Rosenblood and brought to you by the Centre for Inquiry Canada. Join today! Produced by Zack Dumont, Martin Zielinski, and Leslie Rosenblood. Support Podcast for Inquiry on Patreon: https://patreon.com/PodcastforInquiry. Send your thoughts and feedback to podcast@centreforinquiry.ca.

  • S5 · E17
    September 2 · 1 hr 7 min

    ENCORE: Burkas, beatings and bicycles - The life of Yasmine Mohammed

    Yasmine Mohammed is a human rights activist and author of Unveiled: How the West Empowers Radical Muslims. Yasmine is one of the most prominent and vocal figures supporting persecuted freethinkers across the globe, from elevating the voices of marginalized freethinkers on her podcast, to creating a global network of allies across religious and political divides through the CLARITy Coalition. Yasmine shares how her childhood was dramatically changed when her mother became an unofficial "second wife" to a devout Muslim man, and how Canada failed to protect her due to the bigotry of low expectations. She describes her journey from non-practicing Muslim to becoming an open atheist, and how the trauma of her childhood continued to haunt her as an adult. We also discuss how countries suffer under Islamic rule, the particular hatred of Jews that is a core element of Islam, and the origin of and problems with the term Islamophobia. Learn more about Yasmine and support her efforts: Free Hearts Free Minds Yasmine Mohammed Podcast Unveiled: How the West Empowers Radical Muslims Clarity Coalition Instagram, Twitter, Facebook, BlueSky Podcast for Inquiry is hosted by Leslie Rosenblood and brought to you by the Centre for Inquiry Canada. Join today! Produced by Zack Dumont, Martin Zielinski, and Leslie Rosenblood. Support Podcast for Inquiry on Patreon: https://patreon.com/PodcastforInquiry. Send your thoughts and feedback to podcast@centreforinquiry.ca.

  • S5 · E16
    August 19 · 1 hr 3 min

    ENCORE: Steven Pinker on Rationality and Humanist Values

    Even as a young teenager, Dr. Steven Pinker (@sapinker) prized rationality as a virtue, and considered himself an anarchist. He changed that belief, however, when evidence indicated that anarchy was not a path to human flourishing. In this special episode, a co-production with the New Enlightenment Project, previous Podcast for Inquiry guest Lloyd Hawkeye Robertson returns as a co-host. Together, Lloyd and Leslie explore with Dr. Pinker whether universities are betraying their mission, how the human brain spectacularly fails while also working wonders, the loose connections between science and technology with social and moral progress, and what humanity needs to do to continue to thrive for the next 50-100 years. Podcast for Inquiry is hosted by Leslie Rosenblood and brought to you by the Centre for Inquiry Canada. Join today! Produced by Zack Dumont, Martin Zielinski, and Leslie Rosenblood. Support Podcast for Inquiry on Patreon: https://patreon.com/PodcastforInquiry. Send your thoughts and feedback to podcast@centreforinquiry.ca.

  • S5 · E15
    August 5 · 1 hr 3 min

    ENCORE: Kelly Weinersmith asks: Are we ready to live off-planet?

    Dr. Kelly Weinersmith (@FuSchmu) is the co-author (with her husband Zach) of Soonish and A City on Mars. Kelly maintains that while having humans living off Earth would be awesome, we're simply not ready for it yet. She answers many of Leslie's questions: Why can't we go to Mars if we have the will? Why can't we all just get along? Why should we expand? Why is building a habitable space station harder than settling on Mars or the moon? What laws would apply in any off-Earth settlement? Where should we focus our space research efforts? Kelly also goes on a rant about Helium 3. There are two great conferences taking place in Ontario in August 2026: World Humanist Congress August 7-9 in Ottawa https://www.worldhumanistcongress.org/ BAHACON August 21-23 in Sarnia https://bahacon.com/ Podcast for Inquiry is hosted by Leslie Rosenblood and brought to you by the Centre for Inquiry Canada. Join today! Produced by Zack Dumont, Martin Zielinski, and Leslie Rosenblood. Support Podcast for Inquiry on Patreon: https://patreon.com/PodcastforInquiry. Send your thoughts and feedback to podcast@centreforinquiry.ca.

  • S5 · E14
    July 22 · 1 hr 4 min

    ENCORE: Solomon, Jesus, Mohammed, Buddha, Gandalf: All fictional! With David Fitzgerald

    After years of research, David Fitzgerald has come to a surprising conclusion: that all the main characters in the world's major religions are entirely the product of human imagination. While many have long doubted the supernatural feats that religious figures are purported to have done, the assumption that these are grounded in at least a kernel of historical fact is widely held. David explains how the stories we are familiar with today accreted over time, and the utter lack of evidence that any of the major figures of Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Hinduism, Jainism, or Buddhism ever actually existed. There are two great conferences taking place in Ontario in August 2026: World Humanist Congress August 7-9 in Ottawa https://www.worldhumanistcongress.org/ BAHACON August 21-23 in Sarnia https://bahacon.com/ Podcast for Inquiry is brought to you by the Centre for Inquiry Canada. Join today! Produced by CFIC volunteers. Support Podcast for Inquiry on Patreon: https://patreon.com/PodcastforInquiry. Send your thoughts and feedback to podcast@centreforinquiry.ca.

  • S5 · E13
    July 8 · 1 hr 31 min

    ENCORE: Saving civilization is about more than climate change, says Professor Katherine Richardson

    All life on earth ultimately depends on energy and how it flows between biological and geochemical systems on the planet. Katherine Richardson and her team identified nine boundaries which need to be respected if our planet is to remain conducive to human thriving. Climate change is just one of them. We are exceeding six boundaries, and in recent years they are all getting worse. Katherine discusses how she and her team identified the nine planetary boundaries and why it is essential to consider how they interact, instead of viewing them as independent issues. The effects of exceeding planetary boundaries are affecting life today, disrupting air travel, causing severe flooding, and contributing to more frequent and powerful storms. (For the most up to date overview, read Planetary Boundaries guide humanity's future on Earth, published in Nature magazine on November 8, 2024.) We have the knowledge and technology to live within the planetary boundaries; the question remains whether we have the will, and the time, to implement them. The nine planetary boundaries are: Climate change Biosphere integrity Stratospheric ozone depletion Ocean acidification Phosphorus and nitrogen biogeochemical flows Land system change Freshwater change Atmospheric aerosol loading Novel entities There are two great conferences taking place in Ontario in August 2026: World Humanist Congress August 7-9 in Ottawa https://www.worldhumanistcongress.org/ BAHACON August 21-23 in Sarnia https://bahacon.com/ Podcast for Inquiry is hosted by Leslie Rosenblood and brought to you by the Centre for Inquiry Canada. Join today! Produced by Zack Dumont, Martin Zielinski, and Leslie Rosenblood. Support Podcast for Inquiry on Patreon: https://patreon.com/PodcastforInquiry. Send your thoughts and feedback to podcast@centreforinquiry.ca.

  • S5 · E12
    June 24 · 1 hr 1 min

    We've been here before: Apocalypses past and present with Lizzie Wade

    Lizzie Wade is the author of APOCALYPSE: How Catastrophe Transformed Our World and Can Forge New Futures. She is a science writer focusing on archaeology and anthropology, a contributing correspondent for Science, and her work has also appeared in Wired, Archaeology, National Geographic, and Slate. Follow her work via The Antiquarian newsletter at theantiquarian.email The conversation starts with how ancient Egypt, which was very hierarchical and funneled lots of resources to its ruling class, collapsed when a prolonged drought struck. Lizzie explains how the Mayan civilization still very much existed when it was first contacted by the Spanish, despite the centralized state dissolving centuries earlier. Lizzie ponders whether there are grand themes in the study of history, or if it's just one damn thing after another. According to Lizzie, contemporary society is facing its own apocalypse, but there are options available to us to address it. There are two great conferences taking place in Ontario in August 2026: World Humanist Congress August 7-9 in Ottawa https://www.worldhumanistcongress.org/ BAHACON August 21-23 in Sarnia https://bahacon.com/ Podcast for Inquiry is hosted by Leslie Rosenblood and brought to you by the Centre for Inquiry Canada. Join today! Produced by Zack Dumont, Martin Zielinski, and Leslie Rosenblood. Support Podcast for Inquiry on Patreon: https://patreon.com/PodcastforInquiry. Send your thoughts and feedback to podcast@centreforinquiry.ca.

  • S5 · E1
    June 10 · 6 min

    Leslie's Diatribes #5: The Arc of the Moral Universe

    Leslie spoke about CFIC for a few minutes at the 2026 WeCanReason conference in early May. The brief talk wasn't recorded but seemed to resonate with many attendees, so today's bonus episode is Leslie recreating the speech for Podcast for Inquiry subscribers. As with all Diatribes, the opinions expressed are Leslie's alone and do not represent CFIC or any other organization. Podcast for Inquiry is hosted by Leslie Rosenblood and brought to you by the Centre for Inquiry Canada. Join today! Produced by Zack Dumont, Martin Zielinski, and Leslie Rosenblood. Support Podcast for Inquiry on Patreon: https://patreon.com/PodcastforInquiry. Send your thoughts and feedback to podcast@centreforinquiry.ca.

  • S5 · E11
    June 3 · 1 hr 6 min

    Everyone - including you! - is intensely creative. Dr. Caroline Brookfield explains.

    Dr. Caroline Brookfield is an author, speaker, and entrepreneur. Caroline helps "non-creatives" connect with a creative mindset to build confidence in change, buffer against burnout, and leverage individual originality for adaptability and problem-solving, even when facing the most perplexing challenges. Today's conversation starts with a definition of creativity. Caroline distinguishes between Big C, small c, and mini-c creativity. Can AI be creative? Is scientific investigation a creative act? Caroline delves into her DANCE model - the five habits that will allow anyone to harness their creative energy. Podcast for Inquiry is hosted by Leslie Rosenblood and brought to you by the Centre for Inquiry Canada. Join today! Produced by Zack Dumont, Martin Zielinski, and Leslie Rosenblood. Support Podcast for Inquiry on Patreon: https://patreon.com/PodcastforInquiry. Send your thoughts and feedback to podcast@centreforinquiry.ca.

  • S5 · E10
    May 20 · 1 hr 1 min

    Rooting out biases in medical studies and health advice with Dr. Christopher Labos

    Dr. Christopher Labos is a cardiologist and an affiliate member of the Department of Global and Public Health of McGill University. He is a columnist with the Montreal Gazette and Medscape, featured on the Sunday Morning House Call on CJAD radio, and has a regular TV segment with CTV Montreal and CBC Morning Live. He hosts the award-winning podcast "The Body of Evidence." He is the author of "Does Coffee Cause Cancer?" a story about food epidemiology and why food headlines are usually wrong. Occasionally, he finds time to practice as a cardiologist so he can buy groceries. Christopher starts by answering the question his book asks - Does coffee cause cancer? We then talk about how nonexperts can reasonably interpret studies, and whether there is any benefit to listening to health advice beyond "Don't smoke, exercise, and eat lots of fruit and vegetables." Leslie shares one of his favourite xkcd web comics when Christopher describes various sources of bias in studies and the difference between frequency and Bayesian analysis when interpreting results. Podcast for Inquiry is hosted by Leslie Rosenblood and brought to you by the Centre for Inquiry Canada. Join today! Produced by Zack Dumont, Martin Zielinski, and Leslie Rosenblood. Support Podcast for Inquiry on Patreon: https://patreon.com/PodcastforInquiry. Send your thoughts and feedback to podcast@centreforinquiry.ca.

  • S5 · E9
    May 6 · 53 min

    Religion, theism, and race: The Black Practice of Disbelief with Dr. Anthony Pinn

    Dr. Anthony Pinn is a professor, prolific author and much sought-after lecturer committed to academic rigor. Known internationally as a leading expert in the field of African American religion, Dr. Pinn's teaching and research interests span liberation theologies, black religious aesthetics, religion and popular culture, and African American humanism. On today's episode, I speak with Dr. Pinn about his book The Black Practice of Disbelief. We start with how he defines religion, which might differ slightly from what many Inquirers understand. We talk What distinguishes Black Humanism from Humanism in general, and the need to partner with progressive theists to achieve the social change Humanists strive for. Black Humanists are often considered outsiders even within the Black community, a minority within a minority. Nonetheless, according to Dr. Pinn, Black Humanism is always about what we can do to reduce suffering in this world. Podcast for Inquiry is hosted by Leslie Rosenblood and brought to you by the Centre for Inquiry Canada. Join today! Produced by Zack Dumont, Martin Zielinski, and Leslie Rosenblood. Support Podcast for Inquiry on Patreon: https://patreon.com/PodcastforInquiry. Send your thoughts and feedback to podcast@centreforinquiry.ca.

  • S5 · E8
    April 22 · 1 hr 21 min

    Richard Carrier believes Secular Humanism is the best political philosophy

    Richard Carrier is the author of Sense and Goodness without God, On the Historicity of Jesus, The Scientist in the Early Roman Empire, and many other books, chapters, and articles. With a Ph.D. in ancient history from Columbia University, he specializes in the modern philosophy of naturalism, the origins of Christianity, and the intellectual history of Greece and Rome. In today's episode, Richard defends the premise that a government run along secular humanist principles is the best form of societal governance. His two core tenets are that human interests matter above all, and that rational, evidence based reasoning makes everyone better off. Richard and Leslie explore these two concepts in depth, then compare secular humanism to other possible governing philosophies. Further reading and watching: The Christian Nationalism vs. Secular Humanism "Debate" (more of a harangue, and does a poor job of representing either perspective) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwJOsq2tI80 Richard's analysis of the "Debate" https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/38824 Richard's written debate on animal experimentation: https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/18837 Richard's paper: Objective moral facts exist in all possible universes https://www.mdpi.com/2077-1444/16/8/1061 Podcast for Inquiry is hosted by Leslie Rosenblood and brought to you by the Centre for Inquiry Canada. Join today! Produced by Zack Dumont, Martin Zielinski, and Leslie Rosenblood. Support Podcast for Inquiry on Patreon: https://patreon.com/PodcastforInquiry. Send your thoughts and feedback to podcast@centreforinquiry.ca.

  • S5 · E7
    April 8 · 1 hr 5 min

    Persistence, not patience, is required for progress: Feminism in 2026 with Linda Silver Dranoff

    Linda Silver Dranoff is a precedent-setting lawyer, an empowering author about law, public policy and women's rights, and a successful feminist activist for equality and family law reform. She is the author of Fairly Equal: Lawyering the Feminist Revolution. Linda has been honoured with the Order of Canada, Order of Ontario and Law Society Medal. Her latest effort is Fairly Equal: Conversations Toward a Feminist Future - A new web series that looks at today's threats to women's equality rights and warns that we cannot take past advances for granted. Linda begins the conversation by describing how women were viewed by the law well into the 20th century. Women were considered property - effectively owned by their husbands - under the law until the 1970s. We talk about the many areas women's rights have advanced in the intervening decades - including progress in bodily autonomy, family law, employment equity, and more. But equality between men and women is still a distant goal. Even though laws pay equity laws have been on the books for four decades with the infrastructure to enforce them, women's wages have advanced from 64 cents for every dollar men earn to only 68 cents. Linda concludes our conversation by providing some advice for those coming up in the world who want to continue working towards the goal of equality between the sexes. Podcast for Inquiry is hosted by Leslie Rosenblood and brought to you by the Centre for Inquiry Canada. Join today! Produced by Zack Dumont, Martin Zielinski, and Leslie Rosenblood. Support Podcast for Inquiry on Patreon: https://patreon.com/PodcastforInquiry. Send your thoughts and feedback to podcast@centreforinquiry.ca.

  • S5 · E6
    March 25 · 1 hr 56 min

    Two Solitudes of Secularism: Is Quebec religious symbols law secular or anti-theist legislation?

    No issue has split the secular community in Canada like Quebec's Bill 21. Several secular organizations have come out strongly in favour of the legislation, with some saying its only flaw being that it doesn't go far enough. Many other secular groups, including CFIC, have come out strongly against Bill 21. It was challenged in court immediately after its passage in June 2019, and the Supreme Court is in the midst of hearing from a record 38 interveners as this episode is released. In January, the New Enlightenment Project organized an online conversation between Michel Virard, founder of the Association humaniste du Québec, and Leslie Rosenblood, Secular Chair of CFIC. The conversation was moderated by Robert Hamilton. This was an informed discussion between committed secular activists with a similar worldview and many shared values, yet who vehemently but respectfully disagree about the merits of Quebec's Bill 21. I hope you learn from and enjoy this conversation as much as I did. Podcast for Inquiry is hosted by Leslie Rosenblood and brought to you by the Centre for Inquiry Canada. Join today! Produced by Zack Dumont, Martin Zielinski, and Leslie Rosenblood. Support Podcast for Inquiry on Patreon: https://patreon.com/PodcastforInquiry. Send your thoughts and feedback to podcast@centreforinquiry.ca.

  • S5 · E5
    March 11 · 1 hr 2 min

    Sahrawis Fight for Western Sahara Rights in an Overwhelmed World, with Najla Mohamed-Lamin

    In 1975, Najla Mohamed-Lamin's grandmother fled Moroccan troops entering Western Sahara. For 50 years, Najla's family, and 200,000 of the Saharawi people, have lived in refugee camps in western Algeria. Despite a clear legal case under international law for self-determination and a promise from Morocco to hold a referendum on the future of Western Sahara, the Saharawi people remain separated from their land, and are almost invisible to the international community. In 2023 Najla was one of the BBC's one hundred most influential women in the world, and she is today's guest on Podcast for Inquiry. Podcast for Inquiry is hosted by Leslie Rosenblood and brought to you by the Centre for Inquiry Canada. Join today! Produced by Zack Dumont, Martin Zielinski, and Leslie Rosenblood. Support Podcast for Inquiry on Patreon: https://patreon.com/PodcastforInquiry. Send your thoughts and feedback to podcast@centreforinquiry.ca.

  • S5 · E4
    February 25 · 1 hr 7 min

    Assistance in dying: Not what it's MAiD out to be, with Jackie Nemni

    Dr. Jackie Nemni is a physician specializing in respiratory medicine and spent decades looking after patients in the ICU. She retired from active practice in 2023 and has since been working part time as a MAiD assessor and provider. It is the most meaningful and rewarding thing she has ever done and wishes she had started sooner. Jackie is also an officiant with Humanist Canada and serves on its board of directors. Today's episode is about MAiD in Canada - that is, Medical Assistance in Dying. Jackie and I start by discussing two Supreme Court of Canada rulings twenty years apart, and how the latter one opened the door to MAiD. Since MAiD was legalized in 2016, the criteria have expanded so that more people are eligible. Jackie describes the difference between Track 1 and Track 2 MAiD, and the safeguards in place to prevent coercion and abuse. She also addresses several of the arguments employed against MAiD, and a current court case that might forbid health institutions from preventing its patients from accessing MAiD services. Podcast for Inquiry is hosted by Leslie Rosenblood and brought to you by the Centre for Inquiry Canada. Join today! Produced by Zack Dumont, Martin Zielinski, and Leslie Rosenblood. Support Podcast for Inquiry on Patreon: https://patreon.com/PodcastforInquiry. Send your thoughts and feedback to podcast@centreforinquiry.ca.

  • S5 · E3
    February 11 · 1 hr

    Jesse Brown asks: Why are Canadian Jews targeted for hate crimes?

    Jesse Brown is the founder and editor of Canadaland, Canada's largest independent podcast network. We start our conversation talking about the state of journalism in Canada, four years after Podcast for Inquiry's inaugural episode with Jonathan Kay on the same topic. The bulk of our conversation is focused on Jesse's latest investigative reporting series, What Is Happening Here. Jews in Canada are the targets of hate crimes radically disproportionate to their numbers in Canada, which has been the case for many years but made worse since the start of the Hamas - Israel war. Jesse talks about why he created the series, analyzes some possible reasons why hatred against Jews is so much more pronounced in Canada than other countries, and suggests that open and honest conversations are a necessary step toward living together in peace and harmony. Leslie also recommends Canadaland's investigative series on WE Charity, called The White Saviors. Podcast for Inquiry is hosted by Leslie Rosenblood and brought to you by the Centre for Inquiry Canada. Join today! Produced by Zack Dumont, Martin Zielinski, and Leslie Rosenblood. Support Podcast for Inquiry on Patreon: https://patreon.com/PodcastforInquiry. Send your thoughts and feedback to podcast@centreforinquiry.ca.

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