
Eat Your Customer's Pain
We’re joined by Aaron Francis who shares his experience after joining Laravel, Laravel's evolution, marketing strategies, and the future of cloud computing. How is Jev changing the cost and way we use LLMs. And what is the future of education and training on the web? Timestamps: 00:00 - Intro 03:03 - Aaron's Laracon reveal and why he took the job 09:03 - Open source roots, cloud money, and VC-scale growth 14:58 - Who Laravel Cloud is actually built for 19:07 - Taylor's "best in category" tweet, unpacked 22:52 - Ambition and care beat chasing every feature 27:02 - Founders need a point of view, not just a new tool 31:46 - PHP's culture keep Laravel grounded 35:25 - Justin's Vegas Retreat 45:10 - Introducing Jev, and how it's different from an LLM 58:23 - Rosie, ChatGPT Live, and whether full-stack agents are any good 62:16 - "Eat the pain" for your customers as a strategy 77:41 - Aaron's Astra 3D office walkthrough demo 81:11 - Are courses dead? Where dev education goes next YOU ARE THE PANEL – send us your thoughts 🗣️ 🎤 Send us an audio or video message 📧 Email us: panelpodcastshow@gmail.com 📺 Leave a comment on YouTube 🦋 Reply on Bluesky Links mentioned in this episode: Jev announcement post Syntax: WTF is Jev? Aaron's product - Solo Aaron's 3D modeling with Astra 90s PC game: Incredible Machine New Builder Methods page Aaron Francis Introducing GPT-Live | OpenAI TypeSafe AI Free AI Voice Generator & Voice Agents Platform | ElevenLabs Compare AI Models: Pricing, Context & Benchmarks | OpenRouter
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