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Profit First Nation

Danielle Mulvey and Mike Michalowicz

Welcome to Profit First Nation, the podcast that helps you achieve permanent profitability in your business by taking action to implement Profit First right. Hosted by Danielle Mulvey, a Profit First expert, and Mike Michalowicz, the author of Profit First, this podcast is for the top 17% of entrepreneurs who have cash in the bank to correlate with their profitability.

On the podcast, we dive into advanced Profit First strategies by sharing the honest and authentic ups and downs of being a business owner. Each episode provides information for entrepreneurs focused on taking the right steps and seeking appropriate advice from professionals in accounting, legal, tax, or other relevant areas. You’ll also hear transformational stories from business owners who have turned their businesses from cash eating monsters to money making machines with cash in the bank to correlate to their profitability by implementing the Profit First System.

With a focus on intelligent entrepreneurship, Profit First Nation guides you on how to take ownership of your finances and leverage Profit First as a DIY cash management system to make your business permanently profitable.

If you're a fan of Profit First and Mike Michalowicz, this is the podcast for you. Join a in on our community of successful entrepreneurs driven to be permanently profitable, with a grit and growth mindset that lets no obstacle stand in the way in pursuit of the three Ps: passion, profit, and play.

https://www.profitfirstnation.com

ABOUT THE HOSTS

Danielle Mulvey:
Danielle Mulvey is a former flight attendant-turned entrepreneur and the owner of multiple businesses doing $50-million in annual revenue. She is one of the exclusive, select group of Mastery-Certified Profit First Professionals in the world, and the go-to “HOW TO IMPLEMENT” workshop facilitator for Profit First and WSJ Journal Best Selling Author Mike Michalowicz following his keynote speeches. Danielle is currently running multiple businesses from start-ups to mature businesses with 10-year plus track records and revenues ranging from $1M to $40-million in annual revenues and is a certified numbers geek about Profit First, leveraging the DIY cash management system for small business to achieve maximum profitability. She has the ability to personally guide business owners to achieve maximum profitability in their business based on her 25-years experience of being an entrepreneur who has been there and done that.
Additionally, Danielle authored the book The Rapid Read™ Guide to The 5-Star Employee Rating System™ and is currently collaborating with Wall Street Journal best-selling author Mike Michalowicz on his new book, to be released in Q1 2024, titled ALL IN: How Great Leaders Build Unstoppable Teams.

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Mike Michalowicz:
Mike Michalowicz is an entrepreneur and New York Times and Wall Strett Journal best-selling author of Profit First, The Pumpkin Plan, SURGE, Toilet Paper Entrepreneur, Clockwork, Fix This Next, and Get Different. BusinessWeek called Toilet Paper Entrepreneur a business cult classic. His books have been translated into 10 languages and Mike has had the privilege to speak on stages all over the world because of his passion to connect with entrepreneurs.
As the founder of Profit First Professionals, he empowers accountants, bookkeepers, and business coaches with the tools and techniques to maximize client profitability, allowing them to uplevel from being one of the 83% of small businesses operating check-to-check and struggling to be profitabably to becoming one of the 17% of thriving and highly valuable businesses with cash in the bank to correlate to profitability. Mike also co-founded the business growth consultancy, Provendus Group, and has successfully founded, built, and sold two technology service-based companies. He is passionate about sharing his experiences and advice with entrepreneurs and sits on formal and informal advisory boards while maintaining relationships with angel and early-stage investors.

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  • #166
    May 11 · 25 min

    Ep. 166- Profit First Journey with Laura Magu: The System That Gives You Peace of Mind

    Profit First Nation is brought to you by HighLevel. Fans of the podcast can get an extended 30 Day Free Trial by visiting: https://www.gohighlevel.com/profitfirstnation To subscribe to the Build Your Dream Team secret podcast, just head over to this link: 5staremployeehiringsystem.com/build-your-dream-team-subscribe and fill out the form to gain exclusive access! 🌟 Laura Magu first read Profit First years ago and loved the concept — but as a restaurant owner, she wasn’t sure it could really work for her business. Like many entrepreneurs, she assumed her industry was different, so instead of fully implementing it, she took a few small steps and kept pushing forward. In this episode, Danielle Mulvey sits down with Laura, owner of Rev Bistro in Lafayette, California, to talk about what changed once she finally put the full Profit First system into action and began managing her restaurant with clarity and confidence. Laura shares how separating money into purpose-driven accounts for payroll, sales tax, gift cards, and operating expenses gave her real-time visibility into cash flow, reduced financial stress, and gave her peace of mind knowing all her major expenses were covered. She also explains the difference between working with a traditional accountant who simply hands over reports versus partnering with a Certified Profit First Professional firm, like Kasey Anton and her team at Spark Business Consulting, who help business owners stay proactive and profitable year-round.

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  • #165
    May 4 · 24 min

    Ep. 165- Profit First Journey with Kerrie Genes: The Value of Knowing Where Every Dollar Goes

    Profit First Nation is brought to you by HighLevel. Fans of the podcast can get an extended 30 Day Free Trial by visiting: https://www.gohighlevel.com/profitfirstnation To subscribe to the Build Your Dream Team secret podcast, just head over to this link: 5staremployeehiringsystem.com/build-your-dream-team-subscribe and fill out the form to gain exclusive access! 🌟 Fifteen years into business, Kerrie Genes thought she was doing everything right — until a profitable year still led to a painful tax bill and one big question: Where did the money go? In this episode, Danielle Mulvey sits down with Kerrie, founder of KFIT Body, to talk about how implementing Profit First transformed the way she manages cash, plans for expenses, and pays herself with confidence. Kerrie shares how moving from one business bank account to the Profit First system gave her clarity, reduced her stress, and helped her triple profit and owner’s pay. She also discusses the difference between having an accountant who simply hands you reports versus working with a Certified Profit First Professional Bookkeeping Firm, like Kerrie does with Kasey Anton and her team at Spark Business Consulting, who help you make smarter decisions in real time.

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  • #164
    April 27 · 22 min

    Ep. 164- How to Make Profit First Work Long Term

    Profit First Nation is brought to you by HighLevel. Fans of the podcast can get an extended 30 Day Free Trial by visiting: https://www.gohighlevel.com/profitfirstnation To subscribe to the Build Your Dream Team secret podcast, just head over to this link: 5staremployeehiringsystem.com/build-your-dream-team-subscribe and fill out the form to gain exclusive access! 🌟 Most businesses don’t fail at Profit First because it doesn’t work — they fail because they fall off the wagon. In this episode, Danielle Mulvey dives into the real reasons entrepreneurs struggle to stick with Profit First and how to avoid the most common pitfalls that derail long-term profitability. Danielle explains why Profit First requires a behavioral and mindset shift, not just new bank accounts. Additionally, she uncovers how emotion, comfort with the status quo, timing excuses, and chasing growth can sabotage success. Danielle also breaks down why incremental progress beats an “all or nothing" approach to gain real-time feedback on your business, and why committing to logic over emotion is the key to permanent profitability.

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  • #163
    April 20 · 17 min

    Ep. 163- Why "I'm Not Ready for Profit First" is a Lie

    Profit First Nation is brought to you by HighLevel. Fans of the podcast can get an extended 30 Day Free Trial by visiting: https://www.gohighlevel.com/profitfirstnation To subscribe to the Build Your Dream Team secret podcast, just head over to this link: 5staremployeehiringsystem.com/build-your-dream-team-subscribe and fill out the form to gain exclusive access! 🌟 You’ve read the book. You’ve heard the keynotes. But if you still haven’t implemented Profit First, your business is already feeling the consequences. In this episode, Danielle Mulvey breaks down the ripple effects of running a business without Profit First, and why waiting until you’re “profitable enough” is the very thing holding you back. Danielle explains how operating from a single bank account creates cash flow stress, inconsistent owner pay, poor growth decisions, tax surprises, and weaker overall business health. She walks through how Profit First brings clarity, discipline, and peace of mind by separating profit, owner’s pay, taxes, and expenses — so your business can grow sustainably and actually reward you for the risk you take.

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  • #162
    April 13 · 15 min

    Ep. 162- Build Profit First One Quarter at a Time

    Profit First Nation is brought to you by HighLevel. Fans of the podcast can get an extended 30 Day Free Trial by visiting: https://www.gohighlevel.com/profitfirstnation To subscribe to the Build Your Dream Team secret podcast, just head over to this link: 5staremployeehiringsystem.com/build-your-dream-team-subscribe and fill out the form to gain exclusive access! 🌟 New and established businesses alike often believe they’re “not ready” for Profit First, but that belief is exactly what keeps them stuck in unprofitable purgatory. In this episode, Danielle Mulvey breaks down how any business can move toward permanent profitability by starting small, changing behavior, and making intentional, incremental shifts. Danielle explains why Profit First is a habit, how to fix negative profit without drastic cuts, and how focusing on efficiency, margin, and better decision-making can quickly move the needle. If you’re tired of surviving, working IN the business instead of ON it, and wondering why growth feels stalled, this episode will challenge you to rethink what’s possible and take action now.

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  • #161
    April 7 · 17 min

    Ep. 161- Avoid These Slippery Slopes

    Profit First Nation is brought to you by HighLevel. Fans of the podcast can get an extended 30 Day Free Trial by visiting: https://www.gohighlevel.com/profitfirstnation To subscribe to the Build Your Dream Team secret podcast, just head over to this link: 5staremployeehiringsystem.com/build-your-dream-team-subscribe and fill out the form to gain exclusive access! 🌟 Payroll is one of the biggest expenses in any business and one of the easiest places for profit to start leaking away. In this episode, Danielle Mulvey breaks down the three “slippery slopes” in hiring and team building that can erode profitability and stall growth. Danielle explains the true cost of a mishire, why employee entitlement can keep a business stuck, and how failing to hire for the next level limits scalability. She also shares how to build a team that drives profitability by clearly defining roles, expectations, and measurable outcomes, so every payroll dollar delivers a return. If you want to protect your margins, scale with confidence, and build a team that grows with your business, this episode is a must-listen.

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  • #160
    Oct 16, 2025 · 22 min

    Ep. 160- Profit First and the Creative Entrepreneur’s Mindset Shift (featuring Randi Michelle)

    Profit First Nation is brought to you by HighLevel. Fans of the podcast can get an extended 30 Day Free Trial by visiting: https://www.gohighlevel.com/profitfirstnation To subscribe to the Build Your Dream Team secret podcast, just head over to this link: 5staremployeehiringsystem.com/build-your-dream-team-subscribe and fill out the form to gain exclusive access! 🌟 Photographer and entrepreneur Randi Michelle returns to Profit First Nation to share how applying Profit First principles completely transformed her creative business — and her life. Randi opens up about overcoming her fear of numbers, learning to price her work for profit, and using reverse engineering to build a sustainable business model that honors both her creativity and her lifestyle. She also shares how she launched a second company, The Elegant Wedding Co., to empower other women photographers and create additional income streams. In this heartfelt conversation, Danielle and Randi discuss raising prices with confidence, managing expenses (including how AI helped Randi streamline editing), and the importance of financial systems when life throws unexpected challenges your way. The biggest takeaway? You don’t have to be a “numbers person” to run a profitable creative business — you just need a system and the courage to trust it.

  • #159
    Oct 15, 2025 · 24 min

    Ep. 159- Five “Do It Today” Strategies for Entrepreneurs with ADHD (featuring Hannah Cox)

    Profit First Nation is brought to you by HighLevel. Fans of the podcast can get an extended 30 Day Free Trial by visiting: https://www.gohighlevel.com/profitfirstnation To subscribe to the Build Your Dream Team secret podcast, just head over to this link: 5staremployeehiringsystem.com/build-your-dream-team-subscribe and fill out the form to gain exclusive access! 🌟 Entrepreneurs are natural visionaries, but that constant stream of ideas can quickly become overwhelming, especially for those with ADHD. In this inspiring conversation, accountability coach and productivity expert Hannah Cox joins Danielle to share her five “Do It Today” strategies to help entrepreneurs move from vision to execution. Hannah explains how to connect with your ideal life, reverse engineer your goals, focus on high-leverage tasks, delegate effectively, and build accountability into your routine. Whether you’re officially diagnosed with ADHD or just have a visionary mind that won’t stop spinning, Hannah’s practical, actionable tips will help you stop spinning your wheels and start gaining real momentum. Resources Mentioned: Download Hannah’s free blueprint: coachhannahcox.com/today

  • #158
    Sep 26, 2025 · 20 min

    Ep. 158- PLAY!

    Join us on Profit First Nation podcast as we explore playful leadership with Profit First author Mike Michalowicz. Learn how incorporating play into your leadership style can strengthen team bonds, boost morale, and increase productivity. Discover...

  • #157
    Aug 5, 2025 · 53 min

    Ep. 157- Building Profit & Peace of Mind with Profit First: Insights from Alexis Kingsbury

    Profit First Nation is brought to you by HighLevel. Fans of the podcast can get an extended 30 Day Free Trial by visiting: https://www.gohighlevel.com/profitfirstnation To subscribe to the Build Your Dream Team secret podcast, just head over to this link: 5staremployeehiringsystem.com/build-your-dream-team-subscribe and fill out the form to gain exclusive access! 🌟 Alexis Kingsbury shares how implementing Profit First revolutionized both his business finances and personal peace of mind. From tackling early cash flow chaos to building 12+ months of reserves and navigating COVID-19 with confidence, Alexis outlines his journey from spreadsheet juggling to fully integrated Profit First systems. Plus, learn how his software company, AirManual, helps entrepreneurs scale efficiently by documenting processes and empowering teams.

  • #156
    Aug 1, 2025 · 24 min

    Ep. 156- Profit First, Four Years Later: How Margy Feldhuhn and Jessica Rhodes Have Scaled Smart

    Profit First Nation is brought to you by HighLevel. Fans of the podcast can get an extended 30 Day Free Trial by visiting: https://www.gohighlevel.com/profitfirstnation To subscribe to the Build Your Dream Team secret podcast, just head over to this link: 5staremployeehiringsystem.com/build-your-dream-team-subscribe and fill out the form to gain exclusive access! 🌟 Four years after their first appearance, Margy Feldhuhn and Jessica Rhodes — co-owners of Interview Connections, the pioneering podcast booking agency — return to Profit First Nation to share how Profit First has fueled long-term profitability, resilience, and clarity in their business. They discuss how shifting their focus from top-line revenue to cash and margin transformed their agency, why agile teams and self-management have been game changers, and how Profit First continues to power smart decisions — even during tight financial seasons. Plus, Margy reveals how Profit First supports nervous system regulation (yes, really!), and Jessica explains how a clear cash structure fosters trust in business partnerships. This episode is a masterclass in sustainable agency growth and values-driven leadership.

  • #155
    Sep 26, 2024 · 26 min

    Ep. 155- When in Doubt Open an Account

    “When in doubt, add an account.” Profit First Professional’s Chief Profit Guide, Billy Ann Grigg, discusses the concept of adding additional bank accounts to the Profit First system when necessary.  They highlight the importance of setting...

  • #154
    Sep 26, 2024 · 26 min

    Ep. 154- 3X The Function, Not the Title

    Welcome to this episode of Profit First Nation Podcast, where we dive deep into maximizing your business's profitability through effective payroll management. Discover the secret to tripling the function of your roles without getting hung up on...

  • #153
    Sep 26, 2024 · 22 min

    Ep. 153- 8 Profit First Mistakes

    In this episode of Profit First Nation Podcast, we dive into the world of Profit First and uncover the top 8 mistakes that entrepreneurs often make when implementing this revolutionary financial system. From neglecting to set realistic profit targets...

  • #152
    Dec 26, 2023 · 31 min

    Ep. 152- Play for Monopoly Control

    If you ever have the slightest intention to sell your business, understanding its value is crucial. Strategic pre-planning for the sale can enhance your value builder score so you sell at a premium multiple of earnings.   In today's discussion,...

  • #151
    Dec 19, 2023 · 28 min

    Ep. 151 - Relish Your Ownership

    In this episode of Profit First Nation, Danielle discusses the importance of relishing your ownership and maintaining a balance between personal and business finances.  She emphasizes the need to take ownership of key areas in your business to...

  • #150
    Dec 12, 2023 · 27 min

    Ep. 150 - Q&A Quiz Edition

    Episodes ending in 0 are Q & A sessions designed to help entrepreneurs operating their businesses in the zone of permanent profitability continue to thrive.   Danielle is excited to host a quiz edition to test your Profit First IQ. There...

  • #149
    Dec 5, 2023 · 27 min

    Ep. 149 - ALL IN: Power Skills with Kelly Ruta

    In this ALL IN edition of Profit First Nation, Danielle welcomes Kelly Sullivan Ruta, a clinical psychotherapist turned coach, focused on building an unstoppable team by cultivating emotional agility.  Kelly shares insights into the concept of...

  • #148
    Nov 28, 2023 · 24 min

    Ep. 148- Q&A: Instant Assessments with Mike Michalowicz

    In this episode, Danielle is joined by Mike Michalowicz, the author of Profit First, as they tackle questions from Mike's email inbox regarding doing your Instant Assessment. In addition to highlighting the importance of adhering to established profit...

  • #147
    Nov 21, 2023 · 23 min

    Ep. 147- Switzerland Structure

    In this episode of Profit First Nation, Danielle discusses the importance of the "Switzerland Structure" in your business.  The Switzerland Structure is about avoiding over-dependence on a single customer, employee, or vendor to ensure the...

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