Let's Talk SciComm

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Hosted by Associate Professor Jen Martin and Dr Michael Wheeler, Let’s Talk SciComm is a podcast from the University of Melbourne’s Science Communication Teaching Program. Listen for advice, tips and interviews about how to communicate science in effective and engaging ways.
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S20 · E5
Thursday · 30 min
153. Interview with comedian and science communicator Alanta Colley
This week we were thrilled to be joined by the wonderful Alanta Colley - Naarm/ Melbourne-based comedian, science communicator and storyteller, and living proof that the path into science communication is rarely a straight line. With a background in international public health, Alanta spent two years doing public health work in rural eastern Uganda, coordinating HIV education, setting up mosquito-net micro-businesses and running sanitation campaigns. Along the way, she collected a few unwanted souvenirs in the form of several parasites. Rather than quietly moving on, she turned the experience into her first solo show, Parasites Lost, which sold out its entire run at the 2017 Melbourne International Comedy Festival. She's since written and toured a string of solo shows: Days of Our Hives on beekeeping, On the Origin of Faeces on the gut microbiome, and Trick or Treatment on the evidence behind alternative medicine, performing across Australia, New Zealand and for the Gates Foundation in Seattle, and she's the co-founder of Sci Fight, Melbourne's long-running science comedy debate series. Join us for a fabulous chat about non-linear careers, what public health work in Uganda taught Alanta about listening and testing your assumptions, the delicate art of balancing "funny" with "too much information", why failure is one of the most powerful tools in both comedy and science communication, and her advice for anyone whose knees knock at the very thought of public speaking. You can follow Alanta and find out more about her work here: Alanta on the Shirtloads of Science podcast: shirtloadsofscience.libsyn.com Instagram: @alanta_colley and @sci_fight_science_comedy https://www.linkedin.com/in/alanta-colley-2a018843/
S20 · E4
September 10 · 6 min
152. Listen To This If… You’re preparing for your thesis oral defence
Preparing for your thesis oral defence (the viva, the oral exam, whatever it's called in your neck of the woods) and quietly dreading it? In this short episode, Jen and Michael reframe the whole experience: your defence isn't an interrogation, it's a conversation between engaged and curious colleagues welcoming you into the field, not with adversaries who are hunting for holes. They share practical ways to prepare - knowing your discussion section inside out, planning honest and non-defensive answers to the questions you're dreading, and being upfront that every piece of research has its limitations. And with AI making it more important than ever to show you can talk candidly about your own work, they suspect oral defences are only going to become more common. You can find more great advice here: How to survive a thesis defence A classic, practical guide: you know your work better than anyone, the examiners aren't out to get you, and a pause to think is your friend. The dreaded doctoral defense From The Thesis Whisperer, Australia's best-known PhD blog, on reframing the defence and preparing for the questions you're dreading. How to present an effective and successful viva voce A thorough, recently updated guide making the same core point Jen and Michael do: the viva is a conversation, not an interrogation, and the common questions are entirely predictable. The viva. From the UK's researcher-development body, which frames the viva as a chance to discuss your work with experienced experts and recommends a calm, non-confrontational approach to any criticism.
S20 · E3
September 3 · 31 min
151. Interview with native bee researcher and performer Dr Kit Prendergast
This week we were absolutely delighted (and, we'll admit, a little starstruck) to sit down with Dr Kit Prendergast: native bee researcher, taxonomist, conservation biologist, science communicator and performing artist, better known to many as Bee Babette. Kit came to science through a blend of the arts and the sciences, and that mix of creativity and rigour has come to define her career. She fell for native bees back in 2016, drawn in by macro photography and bee hotels, and went on to complete her PhD at Curtin University as a Forrest Research Scholar studying native bee biodiversity, urban pollination networks, and the genuinely contentious question of how introduced European honeybees affect our native species. Since then she's been remarkably prolific: more than 80 peer-reviewed papers, two brand-new bee species described (one named after her beloved dog, Zephyr), an award-winning science circus comedy show called The Birds & the Bees, a book, a swag of outreach awards, and a real knack for throwing out the rulebook on how scientists engage the public. Join us for a fabulous conversation about falling in love with native bees, the trouble with "bee washing", why species names matter far more than you'd think, combining acrobatics with science on stage, and Kit's advice to be unapologetically your true self. You can follow Kit and find out more about her work here: Everything Bee Babette on Patreon: patreon.com/cw/TheBeeBabette Kit's Forrest Research profile: forrestresearch.org.au/profiles/dr-kit-prendergast YouTube: The Bee Babette Instagram: @dr.beebabette LinkedIn: https://au.linkedin.com/in/dr-kit-prendergast-7b9250135 Facebook: Kit Prendergast, The Buzz on Wild Bees, and Creating a Haven for Native Bees
S20 · E2
August 28 · 6 min
150. Listen To This If… You’re Struggling With Perfectionism
Perfectionism isn't all bad — it usually means you care deeply about your work. The trouble starts when it tips into paralysis and nothing ever makes it out into the world. In this short episode, Jen and Michael share how they've learned to hit publish anyway: separating high standards from a fear of being judged, asking what you'd tell a friend in the same boat, gathering people who'll remind you your work is good enough, and using deadlines to get comfortable with "that'll do." Their verdict? Done is better than perfect (and salted caramel ice cream might just be the exception that proves nothing else can be perfect). You can find more great advice here: How to escape perfectionism as an excellent researcher The crucial difference between striving for excellence and chasing perfection. Identifying and overcoming perfectionism in academic writers Why high standards help, perfectionism doesn't, and "done is good enough" more often than we think. How would you treat a friend? A simple, research-backed exercise built on exactly Michael's question: what would you say to a friend, and can you say it to yourself?
S20 · E1
August 20 · 30 min
149. Interview with marine biologist and science comedian Forrest Shaw
We're kicking off Season 20 with a guest whose career path we found completely fascinating. Forrest Shaw is a stand-up comedian and writer whose comedy career began after a decade working as a marine and environmental biologist in his hometown of Miami, Florida - a career that saw him study everything from manatees and sea turtles to seagrass meadows, coral reefs and water quality. So it's safe to say he knows his way around the ocean. Then he made the kind of career pivot a lot of scientists quietly daydream about: he moved into stand-up, and has absolutely thrived, performing at some of the biggest comedy festivals in the world: Netflix Is A Joke Fest, Just For Laughs in Montreal, Moontower, Clusterfest and Bridgetown among them, and releasing his debut special, Poor Decisions, on Amazon. Most recently he brought his science-based comedy show The Ocean Hates You! (all about pollution, overfishing, climate change, sharks, and why talking about the ocean doesn't have to feel like going to a funeral), to the Adelaide Fringe. Join us for a joyful conversation about ten years in marine science, the leap into stand-up, and why making people laugh might be one of the most powerful ways to make them care. You can learn more about Forrest’s work here: Forrest's website: forrestshaw.net Instagram: @forrestshaw and @theoceanhatesyou Facebook: @forrestshawcomedian and @theoceanhatesyou
S19 · E8
August 6 · 6 min
148. Listen To This If… You’re Facing A Big Deadline
Staring down a big deadline and suddenly overcome by the urge to tidy your desk, reorganise your bookshelf, or look up random facts? You're in good company. In this short episode, Jen and Michael (both fresh from some very big deadlines of their own) share how they get unstuck: treating procrastination as an emotional issue rather than a time-management one, being kind to yourself when you've (once again) left it late, holding onto the basics like sleep and good food, and remembering that progress always beats perfection. You can find more great advice here: Procrastination is an emotional problem, Fast Company - why the fix is managing your feelings, not your calendar. Why we procrastinate and what to do about it, APA's Speaking of Psychology podcast - a researcher on the surprising role of self-compassion. Emotion regulation and procrastination, Solving Procrastination - practical, evidence-based strategies for getting started. Transcript: https://go.unimelb.edu.au/nu8h
S19 · E7
July 30 · 31 min
147. Interview with science communicator and Miscible founder Molly Patton
This week we were thrilled to be joined by the wonderful Molly Patton - founder, sci-comm lead and producer at Miscible, a Melbourne-based science communication studio that has quickly made a name for itself for the way it turns complex research into visually striking, deeply engaging stories. Molly's path here is a fascinating one: a former biomaterials postgrad, she walked away from academia after watching the same three problems crop up again and again: no time, no funding, and no shared language to explain why the work actually mattered. With a dual background in science and the arts (photography in particular), she's spent the last nine years leading creative teams to help researchers communicate work that is, in her words, "easy to understand and impossible to ignore" - translation work that has supported nearly $200 million in research funding in just the past four years. Join us for a fabulous conversation about why science and the arts were never meant to be separate, science communication as a profession in its own right, the art of a great grant application, and Molly's lovely reminder to be human first and scientist second. You can follow Molly and learn more about her work here: Molly on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/mollypatton Miscible on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/company/miscible-co Molly's Substack: mollykpatton.substack.com And, since he got a mention, Molly's very photogenic dog Kodak: @kodak_the_bluemerle Transcript: https://go.unimelb.edu.au/z58h
S19 · E6
July 23 · 6 min
146. Listen To This If… You’re Preparing for a Radio Interview
Been invited to talk about your research on the radio? Congratulations, and welcome to the world of "wild listeners." In this short episode, Jen and Michael explain why radio is unlike almost any other communication opportunity you'll get: your audience hasn't tuned in specifically for you, and they're very likely driving, cooking, or wrangling a toddler while you talk. Michael shares his practical tips for cutting through - short soundbites, signposting ("this matters for three reasons"), and a bit of repetition to help distracted listeners follow you. Jen, who has been talking about science on the radio for twenty years, makes the case that radio is fundamentally about human connection, not perfection: bring your whole self, be willing to stumble, smile while you speak, and prepare by talking out loud about your work rather than clinging to a script. You can find more great advice here: Top tips for media work: a guide for scientists, Science Media Centre - a practical checklist for broadcast interviews, including what to ask before you say yes. What makes a great radio interview, COMPASS - a radio producer's perspective on what makes a scientist a great guest. TV and radio media tips, AAAS - the nuts and bolts, including just how short a soundbite really needs to be. Transcript: https://go.unimelb.edu.au/q58h
S19 · E5
July 16 · 33 min
145. Interview with anthropologist, neuroscientist and board game inventor Dr Paul Mason
This week we were thrilled to chat with the wonderfully interdisciplinary Dr Paul Mason: anthropologist, neuroscientist, medical researcher, and inventor of a dung beetle board game. Paul cheerfully describes his own CV as looking "like a pizza with the lot" (with, somehow, even the pineapple on there). Paul is also a musician, dancer and capoeira practitioner who began his studies wanting to get into brain research, before realising he was far more interested in understanding the brain in context. That curiosity took him from laboratory internships at the Howard Florey Institute (and beyond) into a PhD in anthropology, and out into the world doing fieldwork with arts communities in Indonesia and Brazil, infectious disease patients in Vietnam and Papua New Guinea, and conservation education at Taronga Zoo. In our wide-ranging conversation, Paul shares why he believes good science communication actually makes for good science, and how creative formats can carry serious ideas to the people who need them most. We talk about his award-winning children's book about tuberculosis (translated into thirty languages and distributed free in four countries) his dung beetle board game Hexcrement, and the surprising social magic of gathering people around a table to play. Paul also offers his best advice for researchers who want real-world impact: put in the work to ask good, well-structured questions, and always make it easy for people to help you - because kindness begets kindness, and communities of shared practice are where change begins. You can follow Paul and learn more about his work here: https://paul.sobriquet.net/ Fresh Produce Bioactives: freshproducebioactives.com.au Insta: @freshproducebioactives and @sociocerebral Hexcrement, via Aelytra Conservation: aelytra.com Paul's tuberculosis children's book: https://paul.sobriquet.net/publications/ Transcript: https://go.unimelb.edu.au/k58h
S19 · E4
July 9 · 6 min
144. Listen To This If… You Want To Explain Your Science Without "Dumbing It Down"
"I'm happy to talk to different audiences, but I don't want to dumb down my research." It's a phrase Jen and Michael both quietly dread and in this short episode, they dig into why it rubs them the wrong way. The problem isn't wanting to stay accurate; it's the assumption baked into "dumbing down" that your audience isn't intelligent. Jen and Michael reframe the whole challenge: it's not about simplifying your ideas, it's about simplifying your language while keeping every bit of nuance intact. Along the way they share why getting your audience to care comes first, how "clarifying" beats "simplifying," and why explaining your work simply is one of the best ways to understand it more deeply yourself. You can find more great advice here: Tim Radford, A Manifesto for the Simple Scribe - the source of the fantastic quote we talk about: "Don't overestimate your reader's knowledge and don't underestimate their intelligence." Ed Yong, On jargon, and why it matters in science writing - a lovely case for replacing jargon rather than dumbing down. Don't dumb it down: the effects of jargon in COVID-19 crisis communication - research on why audiences engage with complexity. Transcript: https://go.unimelb.edu.au/j7ah
S19 · E3
July 2 · 33 min
143. Interview with astrometallurgist Dr Matt Shaw
Have you ever met an astrometallurgist? Neither had we, until we had the great pleasure of chatting with Dr Matt Shaw on this week's episode! Matt's career genuinely sounds like it was pulled straight from the pages of a sci-fi novel, but it's very much grounded in real, cutting-edge science. He began as a metallurgist in the mining industry - extracting metals like gold from rocks, or as he describes it, "basically Minecraft, but in real life" - working everywhere from the Australian desert to the Canadian Arctic. Having mastered some of the most extreme environments on Earth, Matt decided to tackle the ultimate hostile environment: space. He completed a PhD in astrometallurgy at Swinburne University, exploring how we might one day extract and process materials on the Moon, and worked with CSIRO's space in-situ resource utilisation (ISRU) team developing technologies to produce water, oxygen and metals beyond Earth. These days, Matt continues his space research while working predominantly with the Green Steel and Critical Minerals teams at CSIRO Clayton, investigating innovative ways to reduce emissions and tackle one of the biggest challenges facing our planet: how to make green steel. But what makes Matt especially exciting to talk with isn't just the very cool science. It's his passion for communication and collaboration. Whether he's talking with school students, appearing in the media or engaging with the public, Matt has a real knack for making complex ideas feel both exciting and accessible - and he's got the track record to prove it: Winner, Asia-Pacific Three Minute Thesis (3MT) Competition 2021 – watch Matt's winning talk Judge, Asia-Pacific 3MT Final 2022 Runner-up, FameLab Australia 2023 – watch Matt's presentation STEMPals Curiosity Communicator Award 2024 You can follow Matt and learn more about his work here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthew-shaw-001/ Transcript: https://go.unimelb.edu.au/r7ah
S19 · E2
June 25 · 6 min
142. Listen To This If… You feel like an imposter
Ever feel like you don't quite belong, or that everyone around you knows what they're doing while you're just hoping no one finds out that you don’t? In this season’s first Listen To This Episode, Jen and Michael talk honestly about the imposter experience at work: why feeling like a bit of a fraud is more normal (and more useful) than you might think, and how to keep showing up anyway. Sharing how you feel with friends, colleagues, family, or supervisors helps you realise how normal the imposter experience really is, and that it's a sign you're challenging yourself in all the right ways. You can find more great advice here: https://www.nyas.org/ideas-insights/blog/confronting-imposter-syndrome-in-stem/ https://jobs.sciencecareers.org/article/how-to-banish-impostor-syndrome https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-02408-z https://www.une.edu.au/current-students/support/student-support/une-wellness-centre/mental-health-resources/imposter-syndrome ⁠In this TEDx talk, Mike Cannon-Brookes offers a funny and reassuring take on how impostor syndrome can sometimes be used as fuel rather than treated only as a flaw.⁠ https://www.ted.com/talks/mike_cannon_brookes_how_you_can_use_impostor_syndrome_to_your_benefit⁠ ⁠This short Science careers piece offers practical advice for researchers who feel like frauds, starting from the useful reminder that “you are not a fraud.” https://www.science.org/content/article/how-banish-impostor-syndrome⁠ Transcript: https://go.unimelb.edu.au/x7ah
S19 · E1
June 18 · 36 min
141. Interview with The Weekend Birder host and creator Kirsty Costa
Welcome to a new season of Let’s Talk Scicomm - we’re thrilled to be back with you for Season 19! We can’t imagine a better way to launch the season than a chat with the brilliant Kirsty Costa, host and creator of the Weekend Birder Podcast. Weekend Birder is one of Australia’s most-loved science and nature podcasts, opening birdwatching up to anyone who’s curious. Kirsty works at the intersection of conservation, storytelling and community engagement, helping people notice birds, understand ecology and feel more connected to the living world around them. Through conversations and bird walks, Kirsty translates everyday encounters with nature into stories and ideas that inspire curiosity and care. She appears regularly in national media as a trusted voice on birds, wildlife and everyday science. We hope you love listening to this conversation as much as we loved having it. You can learn more about Weekend Birder here: https://weekendbirder.com https://www.facebook.com/weekend.birder https://www.instagram.com/weekend.birder/ Transcript: https://go.unimelb.edu.au/67ah
May 21 · 6 min
140. Listen To This If...You Want To Up Your Email Game
Email is essential, but it can also suck the life out of you. In this episode, Jen and Michael share their best advice for taming the inbox: write clear subject lines, put your call to action up front, and keep emails short so you reduce the cognitive load on the person reading. They also discuss a brilliant piece of counterintuitive advice from Dr Jonathan O'Donnell: take longer to reply. Slowing down your responses to non-urgent emails breaks the cycle of constant back-and-forth, and gives everyone a bit of time back in their day. You can find more great advice here: https://hbr.org/2022/08/5-tips-for-writing-professional-emails https://www.sunsama.com/blog/how-to-manage-email-overload Transcript: https://go.unimelb.edu.au/us72
S18 · E7
May 14 · 34 min
139. Interview with scicomm researcher and evolutionary linguist Dr Hannah Little
This week we were lucky enough to have an absolutely fascinating conversation with Dr Hannah Little. Hannah has been researching science communication for nearly 10 years, first as a Senior Lecturer in Science Communication at UWE Bristol and now in the Department of Communication and Media at the University of Liverpool. Previously, she did her PhD in the field of evolutionary linguistics at the Artificial Intelligence Lab at the Vrije Universiteit Brussel, Belgium, and went on to a postdoc at the Max Planck Institute for Psycholinguistics in the Netherlands. Throughout her career, she has endeavoured to share her love for evolutionary linguistics as a science communicator herself with well-received appearances at, among others, the British Science Festival, TEDx and on BBC Radio 4. Her work as a science communicator influences her research, especially in terms of exploring how storytelling, comedy and science fiction can influence public perceptions and understanding of science. In her spare time does competitive speed puzzling, stand-up comedy, and is writing a popular science book about linguistics and aliens. She is a member of the UK SETI Research Network and the SETI Post Detection Hub hosted at the University of St Andrews. As you might be able to gather, Hannah is an amazing person to chat about scicomm (and communicating with aliens) with! You can follow Hannah and find out more about her work here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hannah-little-3709371a2 https://bsky.app/profile/hanachronism.bsky.social https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoeXkCM2wSs https://www.liverpool.ac.uk/humanities-and-social-sciences/research/blog/2024-posts/researcher-in-focus-hannah-little/ We mentioned this paper on cognitive biases in our conversation: http://doi.org/10.1177/09636625251387445 And here’s the storytelling toolkit for practitioners: https://livrepository.liverpool.ac.uk/3194747/1/Little_Storytelling%20Toolkit%202025_33MB.pdf Transcript: https://go.unimelb.edu.au/5s72
S18 · E6
May 7 · 7 min
138. Listen To This If… You Want to Disagree with Someone Effectively
Disagreements are part of life, and science communication. Whether you’re talking about vaccines, climate change, or just what counts as the best breakfast, navigating differing views can be tricky. In this episode, Jen and Michael explore how to approach disagreement in a way that’s respectful, productive, and human. Rather than trying to “win” or change someone’s mind outright, they suggest focusing on creating space for alternative perspectives, and recognising when agreement may not be possible. They discuss practical strategies like actively listening, acknowledging the other person’s viewpoint, and asking permission before offering your own. Just as importantly, they reflect on when a disagreement goes beyond ideas and into values or identity and how that shifts what a “good outcome” looks like. You can find more great advice here: https://greatergood.berkeley.edu/article/item/how_to_stay_open_and_curious_in_hard_conversations https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20200930-how-to-politely-and-productively-disagree https://theconversation.com/agreeing-to-disagree-is-hurting-your-relationships-heres-what-to-do-instead-252687 Transcript: https://go.unimelb.edu.au/ds72
S18 · E5
April 30 · 33 min
137. Interview with ecologist and author Professor Deb Bower
This week we had the pleasure of chatting with Professor Deb Bower. Deb is a Professor of Zoology in the School of Environmental and Rural Science at the University of New England, Australia. Her research focuses on the ecology, behaviour, and conservation of freshwater turtles. She investigates how altered river flows, invasive predators, and habitat modification influence turtle populations and population dynamics. Her work combines spatial ecology, population ecology, and reproductive biology to inform conservation management. Deb collaborates closely with government agencies, conservation organisations, and communities to translate ecological research into practical strategies that support the long-term conservation of Australia’s threatened freshwater turtles. She has authored several children’s stories and she loves rhyming words. You can follow Deb and find out more about her work here: Instagram handle: @lazer_une Media: Turning the tide for turtles - ABC listen Tracking the health of turtles in the Murray Darling | 7.30 Environmental experts, detection dogs team up to protect native freshwater turtles - ABC News Transcript: https://go.unimelb.edu.au/ts72
S18 · E4
April 23 · 6 min
136. Listen To This If… You Need To Prepare for Question Time
Question time can feel like the most unpredictable - and nerve-wracking - part of giving a talk. You’ve prepared your slides, rehearsed your key points… but what about the questions you can’t anticipate? In this episode, Jen and Michael share practical strategies to help you approach Q&A with more confidence (and maybe even enjoyment). They discuss why it’s okay not to have all the answers, how to respond to challenging or “prickly” questions, and how a little preparation can go a long way. From planning for the questions you’re most worried about to strategically inviting the ones you want, this episode reframes question time as an opportunity rather than a threat. Ultimately, Q&A isn’t a test, it’s a chance to engage, get feedback, and continue the conversation. You can find more great advice here: https://www.animateyour.science/post/how-to-answer-questions-after-a-research-presentation https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3059906/ https://patthomson.net/2011/09/03/answering-audience-questions-at-conferences/ Transcript: https://go.unimelb.edu.au/ms72
S18 · E3
April 16 · 32 min
135. Interview with parasitologist and artist Dr Tommy Leung
In this weeks' episode we had a fascinating chat with Dr Tommy Leung who is a parasitologist interested in the ecological and evolutionary facets of parasitism. Their research covers a range of parasite-related topics including macroecological patterns of parasitism, parasite community composition, parasite-host interactions, and disease ecology. The aim of their research is to shed light on a ubiquitous but often overlooked aspect of biodiversity. Tommy is also passionate about communicating parasitology and some of the lesser-known aspects of zoology to the general public. They write the Parasite of the Day blog, and has written multiple articles about parasites for The Conversation. They have also appeared on radio segments and podcasts, and is currently the social media editor for the Journal of Helminthology. You can follow Tommy and find out more about their work here: Parasite of the Day blog: https://dailyparasite.blogspot.com/ Tommy's articles on The Conversation: https://theconversation.com/profiles/tommy-leung-106786/articles Tommy's Google Scholar profile: https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=TyMT3ggAAAAJ&hl=en BlueSky account: https://bsky.app/profile/the-episiarch.bsky.social Transcript: https://go.unimelb.edu.au/fs72
S18 · E2
April 9 · 6 min
134. Listen To This If…You Get Invited To Talk With A Journalist
Being invited to speak with a journalist is both exciting and a little nerve-wracking. In this episode, Jen and Michael chat about how to approach media interviews with confidence while staying in control of your message. They emphasise the importance of knowing your key points before you begin, while also being prepared for conversations to take unexpected turns. Michael shares a “walking the dog” analogy to capture this balance: having a clear direction, but knowing how to guide things back when needed. The episode also explores how interviews are often edited into short grabs, making clarity essential, and highlights the importance of setting boundaries when questions stray beyond your expertise. If you’re preparing for a media interview, this episode offers practical advice to help you stay focused, flexible, and confident. You can find more great advice here: https://sciencemediasavvy.org/ https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2666869625000016 https://www.sciencemediacentre.co.nz/wp-content/upload/2014/04/SMC-Desk-Guide-for-Scientists.pdf Transcript: https://go.unimelb.edu.au/hs72

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