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Kyle & Brust

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All Pack. All Nonsense. 2023 WBA Young Professional of the Year Kyle Wallace and Former Badger and Radio Ink 30 Under 30 awardee Ben Brust team up.

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September 23 · 47 min
2PM: LaFleur’s Explanation Makes It WORSE, Packers Offense Is Stuck & Can the Badgers Shock Penn State?
The 2PM hour of Kyle & Brust reacts to Matt LaFleur finally explaining why the Packers followed Skyy Moore’s huge punt return with back-to-back runs. LaFleur points to the Jets playing two-high safeties and Green Bay needing to establish the run, but Kyle and Ben argue that explanation sounds painfully familiar. They question why LaFleur didn’t put the game in Jordan Love’s hands and wonder whether opposing defenses are intentionally baiting Green Bay into running because they know the offensive line can’t consistently create space. The conversation grows into a larger question about LaFleur’s offense. Green Bay’s defense and special teams have changed coordinators and shown improvement, while the offense continues to battle familiar issues with predictability, penalties and situational decision-making. Kyle questions whether LaFleur is trying to handle too much as both head coach and play caller and whether the Packers would benefit from having a true offensive coordinator completely dedicated to running the offense. Plus, Matt Lepay joins the show to look ahead to Wisconsin’s trip to Penn State. Lepay explains why the Badgers’ response against Eastern Michigan was encouraging, but agrees that games like Penn State are where Wisconsin’s progress will actually be measured. A road win over a ranked opponent could provide the kind of breakthrough the program has been searching for.
September 23 · 42 min
3PM: Packers O-Line Hits CRISIS MODE & Kyle Spirals Over Aaron Banks
The 3PM hour of Kyle & Brust begins with the Packers’ emergency plan at offensive tackle. Sean Rhyan explains what Green Bay might have done if Tucker Kraft actually had to move to right tackle against the Jets, while Jordan Love insists his expectations for the offensive line haven’t changed. Kyle and Ben aren’t buying it, questioning how Love can possibly approach things the same way behind a patchwork unit after already taking 18 hits in the opener. Then the breaking news hits: Aaron Banks is OUT against Atlanta. Combined with Zach Tom’s season-ending injury, the news sends Kyle into a full Packers spiral as Green Bay could now be relying on Jordan Morgan, Jagger Burton or Donovan Jennings, Sean Rhyan, Jacob Monk and Anthony Belton. Kyle questions whether Jordan Love can survive behind that group and declares the Packers’ championship hopes are in serious trouble unless the young linemen develop in a hurry. The K&B Fam then gets involved to answer one simple question: is Kyle completely overreacting? Some callers tell him to recalibrate, while others argue Brian Gutekunst knew Zach Tom and Banks carried injury concerns and failed to build enough insurance behind them. Kyle eventually admits his preseason optimism may have finally collided with reality, while Ben enjoys watching the green-and-gold emotional roller coaster derail in real time.
September 23 · 44 min
4PM: Brewers Want the Cubs, Kyle Has ZERO Faith & Can the Packers Survive Their O-Line?
The 4PM hour of Kyle & Brust starts with the Brewers officially headed straight to the NLDS and one question: who do you want Milwaukee to face? Ben and Kyle agree on the Cubs, pointing to Chicago’s shaky bullpen and arguing that the Brewers already proved last postseason they can get over the hump and win a playoff series. But Kyle remains far more concerned about eventually running into elite starting pitching and, of course, another potential showdown with the Dodgers. That turns into a full-blown intervention over Kyle’s Brewers pessimism. Ben argues this is a better, more consistent team than last season and refuses to let Kyle treat another Dodgers matchup like an automatic loss. The K&B Fam piles on as Kyle insists the Brewers still have to prove they can get over that particular October hurdle, while Ben wonders how the same man who predicted 12 wins for the Packers has so little faith in one of baseball’s best teams. Plus, the guys debate whether losing Zach Tom could actually be more damaging than playing without Micah Parsons because Green Bay now has questions at essentially every position on the offensive line. And after Aaron Banks is ruled out, Kyle admits even Thursday night against an Atlanta offense that hasn’t reached the red zone suddenly feels a little less automatic.
September 22 · 48 min
2PM: Packers Lose Zach Bako-Bewele, Jordan Love Is in Danger & Brewers World Series Expectations Rise
The 2PM hour of Kyle & Brust starts outside American Family Field with postseason baseball in the air and a debate over what would hurt Brewers fans more: another NLCS loss to the Dodgers or finally reaching the World Series and falling short there. Kyle and Ben argue that simply getting back to the World Series for the first time since 1982 would be a massive step forward for Milwaukee, no matter how it ended. Then the mood flips when the Packers’ offensive-line situation gets even worse. Zach Tom is out for the season with a torn patellar tendon, leaving Green Bay scrambling for answers up front. Kyle and Ben question what Brian Gutekunst can realistically do this early in the season, whether the Packers need to dip into free agency for veteran help and, most importantly, whether Jordan Love can physically survive 17 games behind this line. The guys also ask whether Green Bay can overcome the offensive line by leaning harder on its defense and special teams. Kyle sees almost no internal solution beyond hoping a young group develops together, while Caleb Johnson’s emergence gives them at least one possible way to stabilize the offense on the ground. Plus, Ben gets the last laugh on ESPN Chicago by sending three “hammy sandwiches,” tissues, string cheese and Icy Hot after the Bears followed their 59-point opener with just three points.
September 22 · 41 min
3PM: NFL Execs Say the Packers Are “Broken” & Is the Super Bowl Window Closing?
The 3PM hour of Kyle & Brust reacts to anonymous NFL executives questioning what exactly is wrong with Green Bay. One executive describes the Packers as “broken,” while another wonders why an offense with this much talent isn't scoring more points. Kyle struggles to disagree after watching the same late-game problems continue and says he needs to see Green Bay put together a complete four-quarter performance before believing things have truly changed. Mark Tauscher joins the show after Zach Tom’s season-ending injury to explain why there probably isn’t a magic external fix for the offensive line. Tausch believes Green Bay has to develop the players it already has, with Jagger Burton, Jordan Morgan and Sean Rhyan all needing to improve as the season progresses. He also explains why Matt LaFleur’s conservative approach against the Jets made sense given the circumstances, even if he didn’t love the actual play calls. But Tausch’s answer leaves Kyle even more concerned about the bigger picture. If the solution is simply hoping this young offensive line develops, Kyle questions whether 2026 can realistically be the Packers’ year and worries Green Bay could waste another season of Jordan Love’s prime. The guys still see reasons for optimism in the defense, Micah Parsons’ eventual return and Green Bay’s receiving weapons, but everything now hinges on whether the offensive line can become functional enough to keep Love upright.
September 22 · 45 min
4PM: Packers FINALLY Have a Defense, Brewers October Hype Takes Over & Can It Save the Offense?
The 4PM hour of Kyle & Brust is live from a packed UW Credit Union Plaza at American Family Field as Milwaukee gets ready for October. The guys soak in the atmosphere and explain why the Brewers’ recent combination of improved hitting and pitching has them feeling better about this postseason run. With Jacob Misiorowski and Logan Henderson leading the rotation, Kyle believes this Brewers team has a legitimate opportunity to finally break through and reach its first World Series since 1982. Then Kyle attempts something rare this week: Packers positivity. Lukas Van Ness is coming off a monster performance, Jonathan Gannon’s defense is creating pressure and stopping the run, and Green Bay is doing it all without Micah Parsons. Kyle and Ben wonder just how dangerous the defense could become if LVN continues his breakout once Parsons returns, while Evan Williams and Javon Bullard are already making plays on the back end. Plus, Steve “Homer” True crashes the show and believes the defense and special teams might be good enough to cover for an offense decimated by offensive-line problems. But Homer pumps the brakes on declaring Green Bay’s defense elite until it faces better quarterbacks and joins the guys in questioning why it took the Packers so long to prioritize the return game. And despite all the positivity, one familiar frustration remains: why does LaFleur keep going run-run when Matthew Golden is sitting there waiting to make a play?
September 21 · 49 min
2PM: Packers Survive the Jets, LaFleur Loses Kyle & Can a Win Still Feel This Bad?
It’s technically a Victory Monday on Kyle & Brust, but nobody seems ready for a parade. The Packers escape New York with a 20-17 overtime win, snapping their six-game losing streak despite finishing with fewer than 200 yards of offense, piling up penalties and needing the Jets to stumble late. Kyle calls it the most disappointed he’s ever been after a Packers victory and says Green Bay looks nothing like the championship contender he expected entering the season. The biggest fallout is Kyle finally saying he has lost all faith in Matt LaFleur. He and Ben question the offense’s lack of discipline, LaFleur’s play calling and another sequence where Green Bay followed a huge Skyy Moore return by running the ball twice and killing its momentum. Meanwhile, Tucker Kraft delivers a similar warning from inside the locker room, saying the Packers can’t allow a win to mask their problems. Plus, the offensive-line situation somehow gets even stranger. Kyle reacts to LaFleur revealing the Packers briefly considered putting Tucker Kraft at tackle when injuries left them with only four available offensive linemen, and argues putting one of the offense’s most valuable weapons in that position while he’s returning from an ACL injury would have been an enormous risk.
September 21 · 40 min
LaFleur Becomes the Story, Packers O-Line Is Falling Apart & Defense Finds Its Edge
The 3PM hour of Kyle & Brust checks the receipts from Friday’s biggest Packers-Jets questions, and Kyle’s prediction immediately comes back to haunt him. He thought a Packers win would make Jordan Love Monday’s headline, but instead Matt LaFleur dominates the conversation after another frustrating offensive performance. Kyle explains why he’s lost faith in LaFleur and believes Green Bay’s offense has become the weakness of a roster built to contend. The offensive line isn’t helping. Injuries continue to pile up, and Jason Wilde joins the show to say the Packers are in “dire straits” up front. Wilde questions both the development and construction of the line, wonders why Green Bay has been hesitant to play Jagger Burton and points out another alarming problem: 26 penalties through two games, the most by the Packers through two games since penalty tracking began 85 years ago. There are reasons for optimism, though. Skyy Moore has transformed the return game, Lukas Van Ness finally delivered the type of performance Green Bay envisioned when it picked up his fifth-year option, and Micah Parsons is already providing leadership from the sideline. If LVN keeps producing and Parsons eventually returns to the field, the Packers could have something dangerous brewing on defense.
September 21 · 45 min
4PM: Can Packers Fans Survive This Season? LaFleur’s Identity Crisis & Bulaga Diagnoses the O-Line
The 4PM hour of Kyle & Brust asks whether Packers fans are emotionally prepared for what could be a very long season. Kyle admits the overtime win over the Jets has him feeling better, but believes every game could become a four-quarter grind. That leads back to Matt LaFleur, as Kyle questions why the offense lacks the clear identity and energy Green Bay appears to have on defense and special teams. The K&B fam brings some historical perspective, comparing today’s frustrations to the Packers teams of the 1970s and ’80s. Kyle admits he’s been spoiled by three decades of winning football, but argues that makes watching a talented roster underachieve even more frustrating. One longtime fan who lived through those lean years agrees there’s a major difference now: this Packers team has talent and expectations. Then Bryan Bulaga joins the show to diagnose an offensive line decimated by injuries. Bulaga saw some improvement against the Jets, but says blown assignments remain and Green Bay still has a long way to go. He also explains why Caleb Johnson deserves more carries, why stupid personal fouls may require benching players and why he would have preferred Matt LaFleur attack the Jets after Skyy Moore’s huge return instead of going conservative with run-run-pass.
September 18 · 47 min
2PM: Can the Packers Stop the Losing Streak? LaFleur Has Something to Prove & the O-Line MUST Respond
The 2PM hour of Kyle & Brust turns the page toward Packers-Jets and asks the question hanging over Green Bay: can this really happen again? Kyle admits another loss is possible after the offensive line’s disastrous opener, but says a repeat performance would force serious questions about Luke Butkus and the entire operation. Josh DiMaggio joins the conversation and actually picks the Jets, leaving Kyle to declare that he’s going down with the Packers ship rather than abandoning them after one game. The guys also debate whether Matt LaFleur can do anything Sunday to change how Packers fans view him. Kyle says simply beating the Jets won’t earn LaFleur any extra credit after Green Bay’s six-game losing streak and repeated inability to finish games. The expectation is to win, protect Jordan Love and prove the Week 1 collapse didn’t expose problems that will define the entire season. Plus, Kyle delivers the pregame speech he wishes LaFleur would give the Packers, while Sean Rhyan keeps his actual message much simpler: protect Jordan Love and move the ball. After Love was hit 18 times against Minnesota, Kyle wants to see Green Bay’s offensive line respond with some attitude and finally show an edge against the Jets.
September 18 · 42 min
3PM: Packers-Jets Burning Questions: Can the O-Line Survive & Will Jordan Love Save the Day?
The 3PM hour of Kyle & Brust puts the guys on the record with their five biggest questions entering Packers-Jets. Can Trey Smack handle potentially ugly kicking conditions? Will Green Bay’s offensive line actually hold up? Kyle predicts Jordan Love will take fewer than 10 hits and believes the protection will at least be good enough to win, while Ben remains unconvinced. The guys also expect changes up front, with Kyle predicting Aaron Banks and Anthony Belton will become the new starting guards. Then comes the most important question: will Kyle still be in “Packers psychosis” on Monday? Ben bets Kyle $20 on Green Bay failing to cover the 3.5-point spread, adding another layer of potential pain to a game Kyle insists the Packers desperately need to win. Rain could complicate matters even further, especially with Green Bay struggling to run the football while the Jets feature Breece Hall and Braelon Allen. Plus, Guess Who? revisits Kyle’s wildest comments from a week spent processing the Packers’ sixth straight loss, from blaming Green Bay’s offensive-line development on seemingly everybody to explaining why Ben secretly enjoys watching him suffer. And yes, that infamous “Baby, I can’t right now” clip makes another appearance.
September 18 · 44 min
4PM: Packers-Jets Predictions, Can Green Bay Beat the Blitz & Kyle Guarantees a Bounce Back
The 4PM hour of Kyle & Brust puts the final bow on Packers-Jets week as Kyle tries to convince everyone that Green Bay is ready to turn the page. He still has plenty of faith in Jordan Love and the defense, but admits the offensive line remains the giant flashing warning light. If that group can simply become functional, Kyle believes the Packers have enough everywhere else to get their season back on track. Then it’s time for Green Bay Props & Preview. The guys debate Marshawn Lloyd’s rushing production, whether the Packers can hold the Jets under 20.5 points, which of Green Bay’s four primary receiving weapons will top 3.5 catches and whether Jordan Love can avoid becoming the first quarterback intercepted by the Jets since January 2025. With rain potentially impacting the game, Ben expects a low-scoring fight and even wonders whether overtime could be lurking. Finally, Kyle plants his flag: Packers 27, Jets 14. He predicts Jonathan Gannon’s defense will shut down the Jets’ rushing attack, pressure Geno Smith and create turnovers, while Matt LaFleur and the offense finally find answers for the blitz. Most importantly, Kyle takes the under on Jordan Love getting hit 9.5 times after the beating he endured against Minnesota. If he’s wrong, Monday could get radioactive.
September 17 · 47 min
2PM: Can the Packers FINALLY Finish? LaFleur’s Troubling Trend & Jordan Love Still Believes
The 2PM hour of Kyle & Brust begins with Kyle Wallace attempting to recover from what he calls “Packers-induced psychosis” after Green Bay’s sixth straight loss. From the mysterious basement mouse to literally questioning his own shadow, Ben wonders whether a win over the Jets is the only thing capable of returning Kyle to normal. Then the guys uncover another troubling Matt LaFleur trend: since the start of last season, Green Bay is just 7-5 in games in which it has held a nine-point lead, while the rest of the NFL wins in that situation at a 95% rate. Kyle questions how an offseason built around “finishing” and stripping the offense “down to the studs” immediately produced many of the same problems, and argues the Packers need more than a win against the Jets. They need to impose their will and prove they can finally put an opponent away. Plus, Jordan Love expresses confidence that the offensive line will bounce back, and Kyle finds some reasons for optimism in an offense that produced seven plays of 20-plus yards, 147 receiving yards from Christian Watson and nearly 100 from Matthew Golden. And Over/Under tests Kyle and Ben on the last Packers offensive linemen to earn All-Pro honors, providing a painful reminder of how far Green Bay’s once-dominant line has fallen.
September 17 · 42 min
3PM: Packers’ Championship Window, Badgers Fans Have Had Enough & O-Line Changes Are Coming
The 3PM hour of Kyle & Brust reacts to Chris Canty questioning whether a loss to the Jets could close the Packers’ championship window. Kyle and Ben push back, arguing that Jordan Love isn’t the problem and that a core featuring Love, Tucker Kraft, Christian Watson, Jayden Reed and Micah Parsons gives Green Bay a much longer runway. But Sunday could tell us whether the Packers need to completely rethink an offensive line that put Love under constant pressure in Week 1. Then the conversation turns to Madison after Barry Alvarez says Wisconsin students have a responsibility to help restore Camp Randall’s intimidating atmosphere. Kyle and Ben disagree, arguing that the Badgers have to give students a reason to show up by winning meaningful games and rebuilding excitement around a program that has struggled under Luke Fickell. Jason Wilde joins the show with the latest on Green Bay’s search for offensive-line answers, including the addition of veteran Cordell Volson and the possibility of Jagger Burton or Anthony Belton entering the starting lineup. Wilde also explains why he doesn’t believe Matt LaFleur and Adam Stenavich are actually disconnected and shares the story behind Jayden Reed comparing Jordan Love’s fadeaway throws under pressure to Kobe Bryant’s signature jumper.
September 17 · 44 min
4PM: Packers Hit the Panic Button & Can They Avoid 0-2?
The 4PM hour of Kyle & Brust brings Alex Strouf into the studio as the Packers try to turn the page from their Week 1 collapse. Strouf admits he still can’t shake what happened against Minnesota and joins Kyle and Ben in questioning Green Bay’s handling of the offensive line. With Anthony Belton potentially moving back to guard and Jacob Monk’s starting spot uncertain, the guys wonder how the Packers spent an entire offseason evaluating this group only to immediately start shuffling pieces after one game. Strouf also gets put on trial for his offseason belief in Jordan Morgan as Green Bay’s franchise left tackle. Despite Morgan’s rough opener, Strouf isn’t abandoning his prediction and still believes he can develop into the long-term answer. Plus, Strouf explains why he’s coping with the Packers’ six-game losing streak by pouring his energy into a Brewers team he now believes has a legitimate World Series shot. Then Bryan Bulaga joins the show and calls the Packers’ handling of Anthony Belton “complete scramble mode.” The former Packers tackle explains why constantly moving young linemen between positions can stunt their development, confirms the protection problems existed throughout the Vikings game and says an 0-2 start with a loss to the Jets would put Green Bay in a very low place with a much tougher schedule still ahead.
September 16 · 46 min
2PM: Brewers Four-Peat! Is It World Series or Bust & Did the Packers Break Kyle?
The 2PM hour of Kyle & Brust celebrates history as the Brewers clinch their fourth consecutive NL Central championship, becoming the first team ever to win four straight in the division. But Kyle Wallace is already looking toward October and says simply winning another division title isn’t enough anymore. The guys debate whether this season can truly be considered a success without Milwaukee reaching its first World Series since 1982 and whether the Brewers have enough starting pitching to finish the job. Meanwhile, the Packers’ collapse has apparently broken Kyle. He tells the story of becoming convinced there was a mouse in his basement, paying an exterminator $110 and then learning that his supposed evidence of a rodent might not have been evidence at all. Kyle’s wife now thinks the Packers have driven him crazy, while Ben wonders what happens to his co-host if Green Bay actually loses to the Jets. Plus, Matt Lepay joins the show to explain why the Badgers’ best football has been encouraging but far too inconsistent, why Wisconsin needs meaningful wins to bring the energy back to Camp Randall and why Brewers fans shouldn’t take this historic run for granted.
September 16 · 43 min
3PM: Packers O-Line Hits Rock Bottom, LaFleur Takes the Blame & Can Green Bay Fix This?
The 3PM hour of Kyle & Brust puts numbers behind just how disastrous the Packers’ offensive line was against Minnesota. Jordan Love was hit 18 times, pressured 16 times and faced an unblocked defender on 10 of his 46 dropbacks. Kyle breaks down the staggering metrics that separated Green Bay from literally every other offensive line in football and argues that criticizing Love after what he endured is missing the much bigger problem. Then Kyle hears Adam Stenavich describe the breakdowns as communication and assignment issues, and that sends him into orbit. He argues those mental mistakes after an entire offseason of preparation put the responsibility directly on Matt LaFleur, while Ben says Brian Gutekunst deserves plenty of blame for constructing the unit in the first place. The guys also question why Anthony Belton was moved away from guard during the offseason only for the Packers to immediately consider moving him back after one game. Plus, Michelle Smallmon joins the show to defend Jordan Love, explain why she’s still riding with the Packers after leaving the Bears at the altar and admit that a loss to the Jets would make defending LaFleur on ESPN Radio awfully difficult Monday morning.
September 16 · 44 min
4PM: David Kaplan Tries To Troll Milwaukee, Brewers Make History & Homer Picks a Fight
The 4PM hour of Kyle & Brust celebrates the Brewers becoming the first team in NL Central history to win four consecutive division championships, but a troll attempt from ESPN Chicago’s David Kaplan quickly takes over the show. Kaplan sends 59 burgers to the ESPN Milwaukee office to celebrate the Bears scoring 59 points in Week 1, only for the office to interpret the delivery as another celebration of the Brewers’ four-peat. Cap eventually calls in from Las Vegas to defend himself, talk Bears-Packers trash and promise Chicago’s days of looking up at Green Bay are over. The guys also return to the Packers’ biggest Week 1 problem after Tucker Kraft calls out Minnesota’s relentless pressure. Kyle and Ben question why Green Bay didn’t have better answers for the blitz, whether Anthony Belton should move back to guard and how the Packers can possibly protect Jordan Love if opponents continue copying Brian Flores’ blueprint. Plus, Steve “Homer” True storms into the studio with a completely different interpretation of the offensive line. Homer argues Green Bay couldn’t have been historically bad while producing more than 400 yards of offense, sending Kyle and Ben into a full-blown debate over whether Jordan Love succeeded because the line was functional or in spite of it.
September 15 · 46 min
2P: Did Kyle Overreact? Packers O-Line Needs an Edge & Is LaFleur Wasting Jordan Love?
The 2PM hour of Kyle & Brust begins with Kyle Wallace wondering whether he went a little too far after the Packers’ Week 1 collapse. While he’s backing off the ledge slightly, Kyle still believes Green Bay’s offensive line is nowhere near championship caliber and questions whether Matt LaFleur can break the mental block that has contributed to six straight losses. Ben isn’t letting him escape the receipts that easily and warns Kyle not to put the Super Bowl goggles back on after a couple wins. The guys also react to TJ Lang and Bryan Bulaga questioning the toughness and attitude of Green Bay’s offensive line after Jordan Love repeatedly took hits against Minnesota. Is this offense missing an enforcer who will stand up for its quarterback? Mark Tauscher joins the show and pushes back on Lang’s belief that the lack of retaliation is coached, but agrees the Packers need answers for the blitz because every defensive coordinator will copy what worked until Green Bay proves it can stop it. Plus, Tausch explains why he supported taking the points off the board but hated the quarterback sneak on a long fourth-and-one.
September 15 · 42 min
3PM: Packers Search for Positives, LaFleur & Stenavich Aren’t on the Same Page & Can They Trust the O-Line?
The 3PM hour of Kyle & Brust tries something that hasn’t been easy this week: finding positives from the Packers’ loss. Kyle points to Jonathan Gannon’s defense creating pressure, encouraging performances from Edgerrin Cooper and Keyshawn Nixon, improved special teams and Jordan Love making big-time throws despite everything collapsing around him. But Ben wonders whether Green Bay’s repeated late-game failures have become too much of an identity to simply explain away. Then the guys debate a nightmare scenario: what happens if Green Bay loses to the Jets and Falcons and starts 0-3? Kyle doesn’t believe the organization would fire Matt LaFleur that quickly, but admits the pressure would become enormous if a six-game losing streak suddenly became eight. Somehow, that doesn’t stop him from becoming convinced again that there is absolutely no way the Packers lose to the Jets. Plus, Matt LaFleur and Adam Stenavich give seemingly different explanations about whether Tucker Kraft’s short-yardage sneak was available against Minnesota. Kyle and Ben question why the head coach and offensive coordinator don’t appear aligned on the explanation and whether it points to a larger communication problem inside a Packers offense already trying to fix its disastrous Week 1 performance.

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