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Rachel Childs and Kate Mangino

Equal-ish is all about that precise intersection of parenthood, work, and being in a relationship. This funny, wonderful, messy, frustrating process is possible - but not easy! Join Kate Mangino and Rachel Childs every week to help you find your equal-ish household balance.

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  • S2 · E38
    May 13 · 50 min

    Ep 38: Fatherhood, masculinity, and the care revolution we urgently need. An interview with Taveeshi Gupta

    What if the biggest lie we’ve been told about caregiving is that people don’t want to do it? In this powerful conversation, Rachel Childs and Kate Mangino sit down with Dr. Taveeshi Gupta, Senior Director of Research, Evaluation, and Learning from Equimundo to unpack the newly released State of the World’s Fathers 2026 report (a landmark global study spanning 16 countries and 8,000 parents). The findings are both devastating and hopeful. Parents overwhelmingly say caregiving brings joy, purpose and connection. Fathers want meaningful relationships with their children. Mothers and fathers alike say men are doing more care work than previous generations ever did. But the systems surrounding families (workplaces, economies, public policy, gender norms, childcare structures and cultural expectations) are failing caregivers at every turn. In this week’s conversation we explore: Why care should be treated as a basic human good, like food or shelter The dangerous rise of hyper-traditional gender narratives among younger men Why couples who hold more traditional gender beliefs actually report more conflict Why the manosphere is thriving in an era of economic insecurity The hidden “fatherhood flexibility stigma” in workplaces The tension between fathers wanting to care and not always defining care the same way women do Why caregiving conversations cannot be separated from capitalism, policy and structural inequality And why Taveeshi believes we are on the brink of a global “care revolution” This is a conversation about the systems we’ve built around care, and whether humanity can survive without rebuilding them. Read the report here: State of the World’s Fathers 2026 Subscribe to Equal-ish on Apple Podcasts or Spotify to be the first to hear the coaching edit from our interview. Find out more about your hosts Kate Mangino and Rachel Childs.

  • S2 · E37
    May 6 · 35 min

    Ep 37: Not everything is yours to carry: Rethinking the Mental Load. Part two interview with Prof Leah Ruppaner

    Last week, we redefined the mental load. This week, Rachel Childs and Kate Mangino ask the harder question: What do you actually do about it? In Part 2 of our conversation with Professor Leah Ruppanner, we move from awareness to action. Because once you realise you’re not just carrying one mental load (but eight) it can feel even heavier. So how do you: stop feeling responsible for everything? challenge the “shoulds” shaping your decisions? share the load in a way that actually works? Leah introduces a powerful reframe: The goal isn’t doing more. The goal is being intentional about what you carry, and what you don’t. From dropping unnecessary standards to recognising how social norms quietly increase your load, this episode is about reclaiming your time, energy, and headspace. You don’t need to carry it all. In fact, you were never meant to. Click here to find out more about Professor Leah Ruppaner Measure your mental load - Lighten Lab Buy Drained now Listen to Leah on Miss Perceived Podcast Subscribe to Equal-ish on Apple Podcasts or Spotify to be the first to hear the coaching edit from our interview. Find out more about your hosts Kate Mangino and Rachel Childs.

  • S2 · E36
    April 29 · 44 min

    Ep 36: The mental load, redefined. An interview with Professor Leah Ruppanner

    This week, Rachel Childs and Kate Mangino sit down with Professor Leah Ruppanner to unpack one of the most misunderstood (and underestimated) forces shaping modern relationships: the mental load. Leah is Professor of Sociology at the University of Melbourne and Founder of LightenLab. She is the author of Drained: Reduce Your Mental Load to Do Less and Be More and Motherlands: How States Push Mothers Out of Employment. Drawing on years of global research and hundreds of interviews, Leah challenges the narrow way we’ve been taught to think about it. Because it’s not just about remembering the shopping list or organising the calendar. It’s emotional, it’s invisible. it’s boundaryless. And crucially, it doesn’t stop. From “emotional thinking work” to the eight different types of mental load we’re all carrying, this conversation explains why even the most well-intentioned, modern couples still feel overwhelmed—and what we’ve been missing all along. Click here to find out more about Leah Ruppaner Measure your mental load - Lighten Lab Buy Drained now Subscribe to Equal-ish on Apple Podcasts or Spotify to be the first to hear the coaching edit from our interview. Find out more about your hosts Kate Mangino and Rachel Childs.

  • S2 · E35
    April 22 · 31 min

    Ep 35: Are you raising a child… or managing an outcome? After the interview with Anita Cleare

    What if the way you’ve been measuring yourself as a parent is the very thing making it harder? In this raw and reflective “After the Interview” episode, Rachel Childs and Kate Mangino unpack the uncomfortable truths from their conversation with parenting expert Anita Cleare, and what it actually means to live those insights in real life. Because it’s one thing to say “focus on the relationship, not the outcome.” But it’s another thing entirely when your child is: having a meltdown in public pushing boundaries or making choices you fundamentally disagree with Together, we explore: Why even “progressive parenting” is still often outcome-driven The hidden pressure of constantly evaluating your child’s behaviour What “being in relationship” actually looks like in difficult moments Why letting go of control feels so uncomfortable (especially for high-achievers) The tension between preparing your child for the real world vs staying connected to them And the surprising question every couple should ask before (or during) parenthood Meet our guest, Anita Cleare, here. Author of: The Work/Parent Switch (UK) (The Working Parent’s Survival Guide in the USA) How To Get Your Teenager Out Of Their Bedroom Subscribe to Equal-ish on Apple Podcasts or Spotify to be the first to hear the coaching edit from our interview. Find out more about your hosts Kate Mangino and Rachel Childs.

  • S2 · E34
    April 15 · 52 min

    Ep. 34: You’re not raising a project: Rethinking parenting, partnership & the pressure to perform

    What if the biggest mistake we’re making as parents is thinking it’s our job to shape our children? This week, Rachel Childs and Kate Mangino sit down with parenting expert Anita Cleare to challenge everything we think we know about “good parenting.” From the myth of perfect outcomes to the reality of relationship-building, Anita reframes parenting as something far less controllable and far more human. Together, we explore: Why parenting isn’t something you do to your child, but a relationship you build with them How modern “performance parenting” is setting us up to feel like failures The hidden cost of doing too much (for our kids and ourselves) Why conflict between parents is inevitable (and even valuable) The uncomfortable truth about letting go, stepping back, and allowing failure How to stay connected to teenagers when they’re pulling away This episode will challenge your assumptions, ease your guilt, and invite you into a more realistic and joyful way of parenting. Meet our guest, Anita Cleare, here. The Work/Parent Switch (UK) (The Working Parent’s Survival Guide in the USA) How To Get Your Teenager Out Of Their Bedroom Subscribe to Equal-ish on Apple Podcasts or Spotify to be the first to hear the coaching edit from our interview. Find out more about your hosts Kate Mangino and Rachel Childs.

  • S2 · E31
    April 8 · 26 min

    Ep 33: We’re Failing Dads and It’s Costing Everyone. After the Interview with Ian Dinwiddy

    We talk a lot about parental leave. But what happens after dads go back to work? In this After the Interview, Kate Mangino and Rachel Childs unpack the uncomfortable reality behind our conversation with Ian Dinwiddy and why support for fathers is still falling through the cracks. Ian is Coach, Mentor and the founder of Inspiring Dads, helping businesses who put supporting new dads at the heart of their gender equality strategy, recognising the positive impact on equality and well-being of helping dads solve the challenge of “how to be a great dad WITHOUT sacrificing a great career.” From the hidden “filtering system” that determines which dads get support…To the unspoken workplace rules that force men to hide caregiving…To the identity shift no one prepares them for… We ask a bigger question: How can we expect men to become involved fathers…while still expecting them to behave like nothing has changed? This isn’t just about dads, it’s about the systems, stories, and expectations keeping all parents stuck. Meet Ian: https://www.inspiringdads.co.uk/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/iandinwiddy/ Find out if your company is in the Inspiring Dads Parental Leave Database https://www.inspiringdads.co.uk/the-database Ian recommends this book by Jasmine Kelland: “Caregiving Fathers in the Workplace” Find out more about your hosts Kate Mangino and Rachel Childs. This podcast is proudly supported by Relationscapes Podcast

  • S2 · E29
    April 1 · 49 min

    Ep 32: The Hidden Barriers Holding Dads Back at Work. An Interview with Ian Dinwiddy

    We’re told fatherhood is changing. That dads today want to be more present, more involved, more equal. But what if most men never actually get the chance? In this episode, Rachel Childs and Kate Mangino sit down with return-to-work expert Ian Dinwiddy to unpack the reality behind modern fatherhood. It’s far more complex than policy headlines suggest. Ian is Coach, Mentor and the founder of Inspiring Dads, helping businesses who put supporting new dads at the heart of their gender equality strategy, recognising the positive impact on equality and well-being of helping dads solve the challenge of “how to be a great dad WITHOUT sacrificing a great career.” From the “line manager lottery” to the quiet career fears men rarely voice, we explore the invisible filters that determine which dads get to show up at home… and which don’t. We also dive into the identity shift men experience when they become fathers often without the language, support, or space to process it. Subscribe to Equal-ish on Apple Podcasts or Spotify to be the first to hear the coaching edit from our interview. Meet Ian: https://www.inspiringdads.co.uk/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/iandinwiddy/ Find out if your company is in the Inspiring Dads Parental Leave Database https://www.inspiringdads.co.uk/the-database Ian recommends this book by Jasmine Kelland: “Caregiving Fathers in the Workplace” Find out more about your hosts Kate Mangino and Rachel Childs. This podcast is proudly supported by Relationscapes Podcast

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