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Dumb Money

Dumb Money Live is the investing show where real life becomes the research.

We’re Dave Hanson, Chris Camillo, and Jordan Mclain. We turned tens of thousands into tens of millions by spotting changes in consumer behavior, culture, technology, and everyday life before Wall Street catches on.

We invest our own money, share the trades we’re making, and debate the stocks, trends, and ideas that could produce the next life-changing investment.

They call us “Dumb Money.” We’re still proving them wrong.

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  • Tuesday · 59 min

    AI Is Running Out of Human Data. Here’s the Trade.

    AI has spent years learning from everything humans put online. What happens when the best human-generated data starts running out? Today on Dumb Money, we reveal our trade. Claude is now doing 26% of Anthropic's own research. That's up from under 1% back in February. Thirty thousand AI agents all running experiments, writing code, building the next Claude. But here's the problem: every AI lab is training on the same internet, the same threads, the same answers. And that internet is now flooded with AI slop. Models are training on models. It's a photocopy of a photocopy, and every generation gets a little blurrier. The labs are desperate for the one thing that money can't print: fresh, original human thought. Real people arguing, reviewing, coding, explaining why they believe something. And there's a finite amount of it. Ten days ago, a federal judge told one AI lab that it can't just scrape for free anymore. The pile of human arguments just got a legal price tag. Today on Dumb Money, AI is running out of human data. Here's the trade. We break down why Reddit is sitting on perhaps the largest pile of human arguments on the internet (and why Chris is building a position), the data advantage that makes Reddit different from every other platform (real humans arguing about everything from credit card points to lawn care), why Google owns the best data with YouTube and Gmail but nobody else has Reddit's permission layer, the licensing deals that are coming and why renewal rates will explode, the arbitrage trade nobody's watching (if Reddit gets acquired or announces a major licensing deal, Yelp and Shutterstock will pop in the window), why Meta's Reddit competitor is DOA (they've already failed this with Threads), the 5% content surge last quarter (all the content ever written on Reddit, 5% happened in 90 days), why X and TikTok matter but Reddit is broader and deeper, the Stack Overflow comp and why it's too niche, Chris and Jordan's full meltdown debate on whether kids should use AI in school or stick with pencil and paper (this one got heated), why agentic AI is the biggest uncertainty Chris has faced in decades of investing (and why he's pulling back leverage), the Amazon trade and whether agentic shopping kills the advertising layer or just makes AWS bigger, Project Moonraker and Amazon's internal Muse competitor, why Chris has four different AI agents reading his email right now and can't remember which one he talked to, and why this market is more confusing than anything since COVID. If you're trying to figure out where the value sits when AI runs out of human data, this is the edge.

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  • September 23 · 50 min

    Meta's Muse Just Changed the Al Trade — Here's What We're Buying

    Meta's Muse went viral over the weekend, and on Monday, Wall Street woke up. Meta jumped 11% in a single day, nearly $200 billion in market cap, because of a chatbot with a plush toy mascot. Three firms jacked their price targets this week. But the stock's already moved. The easy money is gone. The real question isn't about Meta anymore. It's about who gets paid when millions of people talk to Muse every day. Those conversations burn serious compute, and a whole lot of it happens on somebody else's computer. Today on Dumb Money, Meta's Muse just changed the AI trade. Here's what we're buying. We break down the Meta trade Chris hit on Friday before the market closed (and quadrupled Monday morning for one of his biggest seven figure one day wins ever), why Amazon is the real winner here (they're powering Muse's virtual machines through their Graviton chip deal and AWS Bedrock), why Amazon blocking Muse from shopping is temporary and how the monetization deals will eventually get done, the $30 to $60 in compute Meta is giving away per user per day (and why Zuck doesn't care), why distribution is everything (Meta will push Muse to billions of people whether they want it or not), the use cases going viral in every group chat and dinner conversation (credit card fraud detection, subscription cancellations, AT&T bill negotiations), why this is the biggest normie moment for agentic AI we've ever seen (way bigger than Claude or ChatGPT for regular people), the privacy tradeoff most people will make (80% will give up privacy if it improves their life), why Apple's absence here is one of their biggest misses ever (imagine this running locally on your iPhone), the secondary plays in AMD, Intel, and Qualcomm as CPU demand explodes, why Opus 5.5 dropped this week and the market still doesn't understand that efficiency creates more use cases (not less infrastructure demand), the coming data and distribution episode next week, and why video AI is about to suck up massive compute. If you're trying to figure out where the AI trade is actually headed and what to buy right now, this is the edge. Chapters: Chapters 00:00:00 Intro: Muse takes over the internet and Meta rockets 11% in one day 00:01:38 Chris's highway chaos and the technical difficulties begin 00:02:49 Muse blew my mind: The weekend that changed everything 00:07:45 Distribution is everything: Why Meta will dominate agentic AI 00:08:39 Apple's massive miss and why Google has no answer 00:09:46 The Amazon block: Commerce wars and the $80 billion ad problem 00:11:58 The real trade: Why Chris is all-in on Amazon, not Meta 00:12:35 Compute costs $30-60 per day and Meta needs to monetize 00:14:29 Use cases going viral: Normies bragging about saving money and finding fraud 00:33:56 Secondary trades: AMD, Intel, Qualcomm and the CPU explosion 00:37:34 Opus 5.5 drops and the market completely misses the point 00:42:52 Amazon advertising debate: Will bots kill the $80B business or create bot-to-bot ads? 00:47:05 Next week's trade: When the internet runs out of human thought 00:47:33 Data and distribution: The only two things that matter in AI investing 00:48:45 Giggly Squad sold for $140M with terrible audio and final thoughts

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  • September 4 · 1 hr 23 min

    Tesla’s Robotaxi Is Finally Real—Now What Happens to $TSLA?

    Tesla’s Cybercab is finally on the streets with no steering wheel, no pedals and nobody behind the wheel. The launch left investors with plenty of unanswered questions, but the robotaxi itself is suddenly very real. Today on Dumb Money: Tesla’s Robotaxi Is Finally Real—Now What Happens to $TSLA?

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  • July 10 · 1 hr 6 min· Video

    The Flip-Flop Trade Nobody Sees Coming

    Flip-flops are having a moment. Not sneakers. Not slides. The $20 rubber thong sandal you wore in third grade is suddenly everywhere... runways, Hailey Bieber, Zoë Kravitz. It's a city shoe now. Wall Street hasn't noticed yet. The obvious stock isn't the trade. The real trade is a company most of you have never heard of, trading in a currency you don't own, pulling 99% of its revenue from one brand. Today on Dumb Money, the trade nobody sees coming. We break down how a $750 Row flip-flop started it all, why the Brazilian company behind Havaianas is the pure play (and why it's nearly impossible to trade as a U.S. investor), the Interactive Brokers struggle that almost killed this episode, and the sympathy trade in Birkenstock that could ride the summer surge. We also dig into why this flip-flop trend has serious legs beyond summer 2026, our summer investing philosophy (sell in May and actually go away), the Bloom Energy scandal drama heating up again (Theranos 2.0 or just short seller noise?), Chris's pickup truck confession, new Dumb Money merch, and the secret Gen Z women's podcast we're launching later this year. If you're hunting for consumer trends Wall Street is sleeping on, this is the edge. Chapters: 00:00:00 Intro: Flip-flops are having a moment & the trade nobody sees coming 00:01:35 The $750 Row flip-flop that started it all 00:05:21 The trade reveal: Havaianas & the Brazilian company problem 00:07:48 Interactive Brokers struggle & the Robinhood plea 00:16:23 The sympathy trade: Birkenstock's summer surge 00:20:39 Why this flip-flop trend has serious legs 00:26:36 Summer investing philosophy & AI is taking jobs for real 00:28:24 Bloom Energy scandal drama: Theranos 2.0 or short seller noise? 00:48:15 Chris's pickup truck confession & new money merch reveal 00:55:13 The secret Gen Z women's podcast & closing beach vibes

  • June 9 · 55 min

    SpaceX IPO: Get Rich or Get Wrecked

    Is SpaceX about to mint a new generation of millionaires with its long-awaited IPO, or will investors get burned in one of the most hyped public debuts ever? Today on Dumb Money, how we're playing the SpaceX IPO.

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  • May 20 · 51 min

    The Internet Can't Stop Buying This Wrap... We Bought the Stock

    Today on Dumb Money, we break down the Caesar wrap that seems to have taken over the internet and why we think it could be signaling something much bigger for the stock behind it. Is this just another viral food trend, or the beginning of a consumer trade Wall Street still doesn’t fully understand?

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  • May 20 · 53 min· Video

    The Internet Can’t Stop Buying This Wrap... We Bought the Stock

    Today on Dumb Money, we break down the Caesar wrap that seems to have taken over the internet and why we think it could be signaling something much bigger for the stock behind it. Is this just another viral food trend, or the beginning of a consumer trade Wall Street still doesn’t fully understand?

  • April 25 · 1 hr 8 min

    Graham Sold Everything... Here’s What He's Buying

    Today on Dumb Money, one of YouTube’s biggest real estate bulls just made a move nobody expected... he’s selling it all. What does Graham Stephan see that everyone else is missing?

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  • April 24 · 1 hr 11 min· Video

    He Sold Everything... Here’s What He’s Buying

    Today on Dumb Money, one of YouTube’s biggest real estate bulls just made a move nobody expected... he’s selling it all. What does Graham Stephan see that everyone else is missing?

  • March 24 · 1 hr 3 min

    End of War Trades

    Today on Dumb Money, preparing our trades for when the war ends.

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  • February 24 · 1 hr 14 min

    AI Bull Case = Financial Crisis?

    Today on Dumb Money, is the AI bull case actually macro bearish? We break down the “Intelligence Spiral” thesis — how unstoppable AI could crush white-collar wages, hollow out consumer demand, and trigger a 2028 financial crisis.

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  • February 6 · 1 hr 13 min

    Our Worst Market Week Ever — How We Make It Back x2

    Big Tech just had one of its worst weeks in years. Earnings were mixed, expectations were impossible, and the market punished everyone from AI spenders to chipmakers to SaaS. Today on Dumb Money: Our Worst Market Week Ever — How We Make It Back x2

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  • January 30 · 1 hr 41 min

    Meta Beats. Microsoft Misses. Why Amazon Matters Most

    Meta beat. Microsoft missed. The reactions were extreme. Today on Dumb Money, we look past the headlines and focus on what Big Tech earnings are actually telling us — especially around cloud usage and AI-driven compute demand. With Amazon reporting next, we dig into AWS trends and what a reported $50B commitment tied to OpenAI could mean going forward. Why Amazon earnings matter most right now.

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  • January 16 · 44 min

    The Real AI Trade in 2026

    The AI trade most people are focused on is infrastructure. Chips. Data centers. Power. We think the more interesting opportunity is what comes next when AI quietly absorbs work and productivity shows up in earnings instead of headlines. Today on Dumb Money, we break down how to think about the real AI trade heading into 2026, where to look beyond the obvious names, and what actually matters once AI stops being a novelty and starts being normal.

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