
PGAs 101: What Mail Shippers Need to Know About Oct 22 | Decoding Cross-Border Ecommerce | Ep #84
Come October 22, mail shipments into the U.S. will fall under Type 13 — and for the first time ever, Partner Government Agency (PGA) data will be required on parcels that have historically flown in under the radar. In this episode of the Decoding Cross-Border Ecommerce podcast, Clint Reid, Founder and CEO of Zonos, and Aaron Bezzant, Zonos' Head of Global Trade Strategy, sit down with Angela Mackey, Zonos' corporate licensed customs broker, for a deep dive on what PGAs actually are, why they matter now, and how to be ready. They walk through what a PGA is and why CBP can't just enforce this on its own, why there are roughly 50 of these agencies (FDA, CPSC, EPA, Fish & Wildlife, TTB, and more), the specific data requirements that vary wildly by commodity, and the disconnect between the shipper and the broker that makes low-value ecommerce especially hard. Angela shares real examples — from hamster ovaries and crocodile leather wallets to the fact that even a ballpoint pen has EPA implications — and Aaron unpacks the state of pharmaceuticals in mail, why so much of it flows there today, and how personal-use and foreign-visitor exemptions actually work. The conversation also covers what CBP has been telling brokers who "just make it up," why enforcement is going to be graded on a curve (be better than the other guy), the 85% inference rate Zonos hits on photos in the prepay mobile app, and how businesses shipping at scale can plug in via catalog sync (Shopify, eBay, Etsy), CSV, or API to get ahead of the requirements — plus the extra upside of capturing more data (better tariffs on 232/steel-aluminum content, FTA eligibility, and cleaner clearance overall). 🎧 If you ship mail into the U.S., broker mail shipments, or run a postal lane, this is the one to watch before October 22. Chapters [00:00:00] Welcome + intro to Angela Mackey, Zonos' corporate customs broker [00:00:52] Dad joke: miniature golfers have no drive [00:01:28] Angela's background: 10+ years in customs brokerage [00:02:16] Why PGAs matter right now: Type 13 hits mail October 22 [00:03:05] What Type 13 is, and why mail has been blind until now [00:04:43] What PGAs actually do — and why customs can't do it alone [00:06:48] ~50 government agencies (yes, really) — and the top ones [00:10:26] The weird ones: hamster ovaries, crocodile wallets, ballpoint pens [00:13:20] The disconnect between shipper and broker in ecommerce [00:15:44] The 85% inference: what Zonos can and can't infer from a photo [00:20:47] Pharmaceuticals: personal use, foreign visitor, and paths of no resistance [00:27:22] After October 22: how big the mail problem could get [00:30:33] What CBP is telling brokers who "just make it up" [00:31:14] Graded on a curve — better than the next guy [00:32:09] For businesses: catalog sync, CSV, and API [00:35:11] More data = better tariffs (232, FTAs, and beyond) [00:36:38] Bonus story: switchblades and the one-armed man exemption
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