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Join Boiling Point in its second season as independent investigative reporter Miranda Green walks listeners through the climate challenges and solutions facing our natural world. Produced by LA Times Studios, the weekly series will feature interviews with Los Angeles Times reporters, state officials, business leaders and scientific experts discussing the latest news and trends impacting Californians and the country.

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#59
October 22 · 43 min
The Climate Law That Trump Couldn’t Quite Kill
In her new book, The Carbon Wave, political scientist Leah Stokes traces the years of work involved in the creation of the Inflation Reduction Act, the landmark climate law that she helped shape. She talks with Miranda Green about the law’s legacy, how it has endured despite Trump, and the future of clean energy in the U.S. And Boiling Point reporter Noah Haggerty recaps the week in climate news.
#58
October 15 · 43 min
Is there a Greener AI option?
Artificial Intelligence or AI seems to be all around us. It’s part of every conversation, every news cycle, and in every product. When people talk about AI, data centers are typically not far behind. But data centers use up a ton of energy and only about 24% of it comes from wind and solar. Host Miranda Green speaks with Los Angeles Times reporter Blanca Begert about how this new reality is driving immense pushback in California, and forcing state leaders to adopt a new slate of bills aimed a
#57
October 8 · 29 min
Introducing: The California Politics Podcast
Hosted by Emmy Award-winning journalist Beth Ruyak, California Politics Podcast is a weekly show examining the latest news, trends and policies shaping the Golden State. Each week during the legislative session, Ruyak sits down with lawmakers, academics and journalists from the Los Angeles Times Sacramento bureau and across the state to break down Capitol decisions and their impact on Californians. The series unpacks complex policy shifts through reporting and analysis, spotlighting critical rac
#56
October 1 · 57 min
Boiling Point Live at Climate Week NYC
How do you get more people to care about climate change — and tell riveting stories along the way? Boiling Point explored that question at a live event during this year’s New York City Climate Week at Columbia University’s Climate School. Host Miranda Green was joined by climate activist and author Bill McKibben, New York Times climate reporter David Gelles, Woo Qiyun, a senior communications manager at the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, and Alexis Abramson, dean of the Columbia Clim
#55
September 24 · 44 min
The Myth of Forest Management
Boiling Point’s Miranda Green and Heated’s Emily Atkin team up in a collaborative episode exploring the truth behind forest management. They speak with principal ecologist and co-founder of the John Muir Project, Chad Hanson, and Hugh Safford, a retired ecologist for the US Forest Service and director of the The Safford Lab at UC-Davis. Together, they dive into the fiery debate around logging, thinning, prescribed burns and how best to approach fire prevention in a warming world.
#54
September 17 · 46 min
Can Your Plants Stop California's Wildfires?
Wildfires in California are getting bigger and more destructive. Now, state regulators are turning to homeowners to take a new approach to fire prevention– starting with their gardens. Host Miranda Green talks with Los Angeles Times reporter Noah Haggerty about new “Zone Zero’ rules aimed at making homes and communities more resilient to flames and embers. She also speaks with Megafire Action founder and CEO Matt Weiner about California’s leadership on fire resiliency.
#53
September 3 · 39 min
The Colorado River Is Experiencing a Megadrought. Can The West Adapt?
The Colorado River has sustained communities, farms and cities across the American West for generations. But the river is shrinking due to hotter temperatures and less rainfall. As reservoirs that depend on the Colorado reach all-time lows, the seven states that rely on the river are fighting over who should use less water. Host Miranda Green talks with Los Angeles Times water reporter Ian James about what happens when there simply isn’t enough water to go around and what innovations California
#52
August 28 · 25 min
Bonus Episode: Are Trump’s Offshore Wind Settlements a “Sham”? AG Rob Bonta Thinks So.
California on Friday filed its 88th lawsuit against the Trump administration– this time suing them for an “illegal” settlement it entered into to stop an offshore lease sale in Morro Bay. In this bonus episode, host Miranda Green speaks with Attorney General Rob Bonta about the decision to sue Trump, why he believes Trump’s deals are politically motivated and illegal, and what to expect for the remaining offshore wind leases in California. They dig into California’s propensity to file lawsuits
#51
August 27 · 51 min
Can Offshore Wind Survive the Trump Administration?
California once bet big on offshore wind to help power its clean-energy future, but the Trump administration is now paying developers billions to walk away from their projects. As California’s remaining offshore-wind leases hang in the balance, the state is fighting back in court. Host Miranda Green speaks with Los Angeles Times reporter Hayley Smith and U.S. Congressman Jared Huffman about the politics, legal battles and economic stakes behind the administration’s push to replace clean-energy i
#50
August 20 · 47 min
A Super El Niño Is Coming. Are We Ready?
From an unnamed weather event to an SNL punchline, our awareness of El Niño has grown rapidly over the past several decades. And now, as climate change raises the stakes and a potentially historic El Niño approaches, how prepared are we for what comes next? Host Miranda Green talks with Los Angeles Times reporter Rong-Gong Lin II about how California communities are preparing, and climate scientist Daniel Swain about what this El Niño could mean—and what happens when the systems designed to warn
#49
August 13 · 34 min
Why Whales Are Getting Hit by Rising Ocean Temps
This year, sea mammals and birds have been washing up along the western coastline in alarming numbers. Gray whales, which migrate from Baja California up to Canada are suffering from malnutrition, leading to more than 100 strandings so far this year. Experts are blaming warming waters due to climate change which impacts the mammals’ food supply. Host Miranda Green sets sail with staff from Long Beach’s Aquarium of the Pacific to get a better sense of what’s going on with this marine populati
#48
August 6 · 36 min
Two New Plastics Laws are Bringing a Whole Lot of Baggage
California implemented two landmark plastics laws this year that aimed to answer an existential question: who is responsible for plastics waste? Both bills are intended to put more responsibility on plastics manufacturers so that fewer products end up in landfills. But the rollout of the bills has been anything but easy– in fact, no one is happy. Host Miranda Green speaks with LA Times reporter Susanne Rust about the troubled history of the two laws, and with entrepreneur Will Lorenzi ab
#47
July 30 · 34 min
California’s Offshore Drilling Nightmare
When a pipeline off Gaviota Coast cracked in 2015 and spewed 123,000 gallons of oil into the ocean, local officials shut it down for 11 years. But this past spring, A federal emergency declaration helped Sable Offshore Corp. get a fast-track to pump again and it has led to a flurry of lawsuits. Host Miranda Green speaks with LA Times reporter Grace Toohey, economist Severin Borenstein, and surfing legend Shaun Tomson about how this seemingly local fight has become a national litmus test over
July 23 · 2 min
Presenting: Season 2 of Boiling Point
Join “Boiling Point” in its second season as independent investigative journalist Miranda Green walks listeners through the climate challenges and solutions facing our natural world. Produced by LA Times Studios, the weekly series will feature interviews with Los Angeles Times reporters, state officials, business leaders and scientific experts discussing the latest news and trends impacting Californians and the country.
#46
Dec 11, 2025 · 45 min
Smoglandia Pt 6: FUTURE ELECTRIC, FUTURE TROUBLE
Decades ago, some unhappy Angeleno wondered why cars couldn’t just run on nice, clean … water? Not for want of trying – cleaner power has created lots of engine experiments, most dramatically Caltech versus MIT in the great electric car race of 1968, a story you’ll hear from the winner. Not all is fresh air and plug-ins: smog has been especially devastating on communities of color, and the Trump administration may pull the plug on that have let California clear its own air.
#45
Dec 4, 2025 · 38 min
Smoglandia Pt 5: SMOG CHECK AND DOUBLE CHECK
Whaddya know – the federal government sees the wisdom of working with California and its “queen of green” for cleaner air – up to a point. The Golden State gets its own “secret recipe” gas, but new partners mean new frictions over the smog check program familiar to every behind-the-wheel Californian.
#44
Nov 20, 2025 · 35 min
Smoglandia Pt 4: SCIENCE AND GOVERNMENT, BESTIES?
Well, it took long enough. We finally realized that smog didn’t stop at some city limits line … that burning the family trash in the backyard incinerator wasn’t a good idea … and California started putting muscle into getting the air clean. Governor Ronald Reagan made the Caltech “father of smog” the head of the new state air resources board, TV stations began reporting smog alerts along with weather forecasts, and one stubborn LA county supervisor started his ten-year letter-writing crusade sco
#43
Nov 13, 2025 · 34 min
Smoglandia Pt 3: COUGH COUGH
Living with smog was like living with an obnoxious neighbor. Angelenos tried protesting at city hall. They kept their coughing kids inside. A couple of actors manufactured joke cans of “genuine smog” and sold them to tourists. A few came up with earnest but crackpot solutions, like drilling a smog tunnel in the mountains. But serious pollution cost us serious money. Hollywood shoots had to shut down or move farther out of town to avoid it. And Southern California’s billion-dollar agriculture ind
#42
Nov 6, 2025 · 33 min
Smoglandia Pt 2: SCIENCE TO THE RESCUE
By the late 1940's, Los Angeles had experienced several extreme smog days -- or "gas attacks" as they were called back then. Everyone had their eyes on wartime factories that had sprung up and were shooting black plumes into the air, but someone had a feeling that the cause might be something else. Arie Haagen-Smit, a Dutch professor at Caltech who would later be deemed the "father of air pollution," was technically supposed to be studying the taste and smell of pineapples when he first began to
#41
Oct 30, 2025 · 24 min
Smoglandia Pt 1: L.A. SMOG – VERY OLD-SCHOOL
Don’t blame us – blame our geography! Modern LA earned its first smoggy nickname 450 years ago, as the “bay of smokes.” At the La Brea tar pits, we take a short walk through a long history with curator Regan Dunn, who explains how and why the first Angelenos, 130 centuries ago, would have set fires that filled the broad bowl of LA and foretold the curse of smog. Fast forward thousands of years to the early 1940s, and the renowned artist Helen Pashgian, who grew up in Altadena back when the ligh

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