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Paul K from the Original Wine of the Month Club

All you knew about wine is about to bust wide open… We are going to talk about what really happens in the wine business, and I'm taking no prisoners. Learn more at: https://www.winetalkspodcast.com/.

I am your host, Paul Kalemkiarian, 2nd generation owner of the Original Wine of the Month Club, and I am somewhere north of 100,000 wines tasted.

How can Groupon sell 12 bottles for $60, and the wines be good? How do you start a winery anyway and lose money? And is a screwcap really better than a cork? Sometimes I have to pick a wine at the store by the label and the price... and I get screwed.

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#558
Thursday · 42 min
From Bordeaux to Napa: Is Tradition Holding Wine Back? Ask Justine Tesseron of Cht. Pontet-Canet
Pick a defacto wine region of the world...one that speaks of history and pedigee; the region with which every enophile begins their jpourney: Did you say Bordeaux? And would you think that there is history packed into Chateau Pontet-Canet? I suppose, when you consider that for the past 300 years, there have only been 3 families to care for it's vineayards; seems like history and pedigree to me! When Justine Tesseron walks into a room, Bordeaux's old guard can be forgiven for bracing themselves. She represents both legacy and provocation: the fifth growth estate of Pontet-Canet, once bound by the almost sacred rules of tradition, is now a launch pad for some of Bordeaux's most radical experimentation. In a region where change is often whispered, Justine Tesseron speaks aloud about biodynamics, the tension between authenticity and marketing, and why clinging to the past can sometimes strangle the future. The audacity is refreshing—and controversial. After all, in Bordeaux, some see "innovation" as a dirty word, a risk to centuries of carefully tended reputation. But Justine Tesseron's vision is clear: without evolution, even historic vineyards risk irrelevance. What happens when a centuries-old château dares to reject the safety of the norm? Justine Tesseron and her family didn't just convert Pontet-Canet to biodynamic farming—they did it quietly, driven by the pursuit of better, more honest wine rather than a marketing story. And if you think Bordeaux would reward that courage, think again—adopting horses instead of tractors, stopping irrigation in Napa, and refusing to slap "biodynamic" on the label hasn't always sat well with the establishment. Paul K pulls no punches, probing the fine line between innovation and heresy, business survival and romantic nostalgia. Is Bordeaux in crisis, or is "crisis" a lazy scapegoat for resisting change? For Justine Tesseron, it's just another challenge to rise above. Throughout this episode, you'll discover that the Pontet-Canet approach isn't just about vineyards—it's about challenging every assumption, from how wines are classified and aged, to how hospitality should be woven into the fabric of great estates. Justine Tesseron's candid admissions about mistakes, learning curves, and the endless tension between nature and commerce provoke an uncomfortable question for every wine lover: does tradition serve the wine, or does the wine serve tradition? You will learn: Why Pontet-Canet's move to biodynamics was rooted in taste and authenticity, not marketing hype. The unspoken risks of pioneering change in Bordeaux's conservative winemaking culture. How climate change is forcing continuous adaptation—even for the most hallowed vineyards. Why Justine Tesseron rejects "crisis" as the right word for Bordeaux's challenges, and what she believes the region can—and must—do next. The conflicting philosophies of oak versus concrete aging, and how they reframe what "Bordeaux" tastes like. How the intersection of business, family, and legacy shapes the future of wine, from the cellars of Pauillac to the hills of Napa. If you thought the world of classified growths was set in stone, this episode will change your mind—and might even raise your glass a little higher, as you ponder just what the next chapter for Bordeaux should look like. Château Pontet-Canet: https://www.pontet-canet.com Tesseron Cognac: https://www.tesseroncognac.com Wine Paris: https://www.wineparis-vinexpo.com Hôtel de Pavie in Saint-Émilion: https://www.hoteldepavie.com YouTube: https://youtu.be/iE5Po7GBPJY
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#557
Tuesday · 49 min
From Shiraz Overload to Rare Grapes: Matt Talbot's Bold Approach to Australian Wine
Aussi wines have a distinction. They are great for one, but have gone through some of the most volatile representation in the US of than any other region in the world. One decade they are everywhere, and the next, virtually non-existant. And right now, they are closer to non-existant than everywhere (though I do talk about a wine I saw on a list in Orance County, I had to buy it. Matt Talbot might claim he's "a little bit broken" from all the long-haul flights, but he's the kind of winemaker who never stops patching things up—with new grapes, wild ideas, and a dash of irreverence about the global wine game. Settle in with a glass, because this episode isn't your parents' Australian wine tasting. Paul K and Matt Talbot swirl all the major questions into the glass: why did Australian wine's star rise and fall (and rise again), how do you sell a grape that no one can spell, and what really happens when a "terrible variety" is planted just to see what climate change might do? As the conversation flows, so do the varietals—far beyond Shiraz, into the land of Grüner Veltliner, Italian whites, and even a Turkish grape nicknamed "throat scratcher." You'll laugh along as Matt Talbot confesses he's made 25 different varietals in five years (some lasting just as long as a pop song on the charts), and marvel at how the art of wine is colliding with the reality of jam-packed tanks, disappearing staff, and the constant need for a story that sticks harder than wax on a quirky handmade bottle. But this isn't just about what's in the bottle. It's a front-row tour of how buyers, sommeliers, and Millennial drinkers are shaking up the industry—demanding new flavors, new origins, and bold tales to tell at dinner. Paul K brings decades of perspective, challenging Matt Talbot on everything from supermarket shelf wars to what happens when a classic Bordeaux ends up at Costco. The result? You're caught between nostalgia and reinvention, rooting for the underdog brands—while realizing that every glass reflects a world in flux. In this episode, you'll learn: Why Australia's wine image got stuck in a Shiraz rut—and how new grapes like Gruner, Fiano, and Nero d'Avola are breaking stereotypes. How climate, cash flow, and changing tastes have driven makers like Matt Talbot to experiment wildly (sometimes with grapes no one can pronounce). The inside scoop on hospitality's comeback: why hand-selling, trusted service, and storytelling have never mattered more to your wine experience. What it takes to get a non-traditional wine past American buyers—and why risk, resilience, and reinvention are the secret ingredients in every great bottle. Ready to rethink what's in your glass—and who put it there? This episode uncorks the honest, often hilarious truth about survival and innovation in the wild world of wine. Patch Wines: https://patchwines.com/ Wine Australia: https://www.wineaustralia.com/ Tallarook Wines (brand mentioned as "Talluray"/"Tallurah", likely Tallarook): https://tallarook.com/ Penfolds: https://www.penfolds.com/ Hardys: https://www.hardyswines.com/ Leeuwin Estate: https://www.leeuwinestate.com.au/ Château Musar: http://www.chateaumusar.com.lb/ Gundlach-Bundschu: https://www.gunbun.com/ Château Montelena: https://montelena.com/ YouTube: https://youtu.be/09OM-kcKBB4
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#556
September 29 · 58 min
The Hidden Power of Emotion in Selling World-Class Wine; Thomas Sequy of Troplong Mondot
The more Wine Talks speaks with the Bordelaise, the more intrigued we become. Certainly the storied history of the region ios pure wine history, but the individual stories, philosophies, and the realities of marketing wine in 2026 take center stage when hashing out the headwinds. Meet Thomas Sequy of Troplong Mondot. AI interpretation: Thomas Seguy strides into the studio with Bordeaux's heartbeat echoing in his suitcase and a Rolodex of global wine connections in his head, but he's not here for polished PR. He's here to torch the tired narrative that a bottle is just a status symbol or expensive dinner companion. Right out of the gate, Thomas Seguy dismantles the myth that Bordeaux is staid Old World tradition, revealing instead a region fueled by reinvention, relentless experimentation, and raw, unresolved rivalries—where wine isn't just aged in barrels, but forged in the heat of generational change and international demand. If you've bought the story that Bordeaux is for the gray-haired gentry, this episode is your wake-up call. What will you really learn when you listen in? Prepare for a disruptor's lens on the very foundations of the wine world. You'll find out why négociants aren't just middlemen but the shadowy nerve center of the Bordeaux market, and how today's "second wines" are no longer the discount bin—sometimes, they're the sleeper hits. Get ready to see how market pressures and global warming are reprogramming Bordeaux's DNA, and why the soulless supermarket shelf is becoming the wine world's greatest battleground. From cash flow tricks that would make a Silicon Valley CFO sweat, to the unspoken warfare between tradition and the urge to break free, Thomas Seguy and Paul K pour you a glass of the real story—a blend that's far more complex than most labels dare to reveal. What will you get with every listen? The secrets behind Bordeaux's labyrinthine distribution network—and who really pulls the strings. Why "en primeur" is the financial hack that keeps French wineries alive (and what Napa can only dream of). The inside dirt on how classifications are made, manipulated, and outright rejected—sometimes by the region's biggest players. The truth about why younger generations are walking away and what the industry is terrified to admit about it. How grape-picking dates, not just grape types, are becoming rebellion and identity rolled into one. The reason a bottle's story—and your emotional reaction—might be the future (and last defense) of great wine. Thomas Seguy tosses away the veneer of wine as polite conversation fodder and shows you what it looks like to get your hands dirty in the vineyard and your mind twisted by the marketplace. Think wine is just about terroir or technique? Think again. Here, you'll hear why tech, climate, and even hospitality can dictate the fate of a vintage as much as rainfall or barrel choice. Listen as Paul K fires the hard questions and Thomas Seguy responds, sometimes with a scientist's precision, sometimes with a street hustler's defiance. There are no soft landings; there's only the unfiltered truth of what it takes to keep Bordeaux alive and relevant. By the end, you'll never walk the supermarket aisle—or scan a Michelin list—without hearing the echoes of this conversation. You'll spot the poseurs. You'll feel the real thing. And you might just realize that choosing a bottle is far less about what you've been taught and far more about whether the story, the vineyard, and the label can stir something restless in you. Wine, at least as Thomas Seguy serves it, is both an act of rebellion and a love letter—and after this, you'll crave nothing less. Troplong Mondot: https://www.troplong-mondot.com Duclot (négociant): https://www.duclot.com Jack Daniel's: https://www.jackdaniels.com Château Montelena: https://www.montelena.com Château Beychevelle: https://www.beychevelle.com Guide Michelin (Michelin Guide): https://guide.michelin.com YouTube: https://youtu.be/CMj-WThiWPc
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#555
September 24 · 54 min
The Dark Side of Food Network: Are We Really Learning About Real Food?
If I was to say I was 'taken"by this young woman, it would be an understatement. Besides her immense accomplishments in the world of cooking, wine and writing, her humility will set her apart. I think if all the world of hospitality took on her world view, the world would be in a better place. If you think Emily Saladino is just another name among wine writers, wait until you join her at the table—because the conversation quickly shifts from ordinary pours to the kind of deep, delicious stories you want to savor and swirl for hours. Emily Saladino doesn't just write about food and wine; she dismantles the myths, exposes the secret handshakes of the wine world, and invites you to explore flavors the average drinker might never encounter. This episode of Wine Talks promises to make you see your next glass—and your next plate—in an entirely new light, blending practical knowledge with high-spirited tales from the frontlines of food media, international tastings, and vibrant family reunions where new bottles meet skeptical drinkers. From the first sip, you'll be hooked by Emily Saladino's approach to making wine accessible, even as she navigates the high-stakes, jargon-filled world of tastings and reviews. Ever wondered why orange wine is suddenly everywhere, or why some people seem to speak an entirely different language around wine labels and tasting notes? Emily Saladino breaks it all down, sharing candid moments—like explaining to her own family in New Jersey that "orange" wine isn't made from citrus. She reveals how different corners of the country, and the globe, have differing encounters with flavor, tradition, and the very concept of wine itself. As the story unfolds, Paul K joins Emily Saladino in questioning why American wine consumers still face so many hurdles when trying to find "real" wine—the kind that isn't mass-produced, stripped of its origin, or drowned in celebrity hype. Their conversation exposes the complex machinery behind wine distribution and answers pressing questions: Why do some regions have to market themselves with words like "natural" or "biodynamic" to catch your attention? Are these just buzzwords, or genuine guideposts to better, more honest wine? Together, they recount adventures among ancient vineyards in Georgia and Armenia, tasting the difference that truly local food and attentive farming make. Prepare to get hungry, as well as thirsty, when Emily Saladino and Paul K turn toward the kitchen and table. The episode dives into food's forgotten rules—like only eating strawberries in season—and explores how America's obsession with convenience has dulled our collective palate. Yet, the revival is underway, powered by younger generations seeking out genuine ingredients and regional specialties, and fueled by experiences that prove the difference between bland trucked-in tomatoes and those dug fresh that morning is bigger than you'd ever guess. What's in it for you? Beyond the lively banter and bold ideas, you'll walk away with a glass full of actionable insight and newfound confidence. This isn't just a story about wine—it's an invitation to taste, question, and celebrate more: 🍷 The secret behind the wine world's three-tier system—and how it shapes every bottle you buy 🍷 Why "orange wine" turns heads (and sparks confusion) in both hipster bars and family BBQs 🍷 How industrial agriculture shaped modern taste—and how local, sustainable food could rescue it 🍷 Why fancy terms like "natural" and "biodynamic" matter (or sometimes don't) 🍷 The single conversation that can open wine's closed doors for new drinkers 🍷 How memory, flavor, and the story in your glass can connect generations and cultures With Emily Saladino at the mic, you're not just learning the ins and outs of wine and food—you're discovering the beauty of not having all the answers, but being passionate enough to keep tasting, keep learning, and savoring every unexpected detail along the way. YouTube: https://youtu.be/bCs7a7dfPVQ Wine Enthusiast: https://www.winemag.com VinePair: https://vinepair.com Food Network: https://www.foodnetwork.com Pie 'n Burger: https://www.pienburger.com iHeartRadio: https://www.iheart.com Spotify: https://www.spotify.com Pandora: https://www.pandora.com Blue Hill at Stone Barns: https://www.bluehillfarm.com EmilySaladino.com: https://www.emilysaladino.com
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#552
September 17 · 55 min
When Business Kills Passion: Florencia Palmaz Questions the Soul of America's Wine Country
When a visionary enters the proverbial "studio," the world should listen. It isn't every guest that graces Wine Talks with Paul K that raises an eyebrow, Florencia Palmz did just that. She didn't say enything that industry leaders don't already think, but she was compelled to express the very thoughts that need to be expressed...to change things, to reorient the view point of the wine trade. Bravo. What you will learn: 🍷 Why the "connection to the land" isn't just marketing fluff—and how Florencia Palmaz bottles that connection 🍷 How risk, resilience, and a little immigrant grit end up in every glass of Palmaz wine 🍷 The real origin story—hint: it wasn't about wine, but about family and healing 🍷 Inside the cave: why they dug a gravity-flow winery into the side of a Napa mountain 🍷 How real hospitality blows up the "fancy story" and marketing-first approach 🍷 The unfiltered truth about surviving COVID, channel swings, and a fickle wine market Forget the safe, polished stories that float around high-end wine country. Florencia Palmaz doesn't care for superficial sales pitches or the flavor-of-the-month marketing tactics that have turned too many Napa wineries into hollow brands. She's not afraid to call out the poseurs—those who build ugly faux-châteaux and let consultants craft their "legacy"—and instead gets real about what actually makes a bottle of wine worth drinking: the raw, sometimes messy fight for connection, survival, and honesty. Whether she's recounting how wildfire threatened to erase everything her family built, or skewering the industry's drift into marketing babble, she brings a directness that cuts through the noise. Her story isn't just another rags-to-riches "American Dream" cliché. Florencia Palmaz arrived in the US as a baby, the youngest passenger in her family's leap-from-Argentina odyssey, riding the wake of her physician father's obsession to fix what killed both grandfathers—heart disease. The family's Napa venture started as a wild dream: mom wanted a vineyard because she saw how cattle ranching unified kin for generations. Dad chased a vision to heal, not just with surgery—but, one day, with the slow medicine of gathering family and friends around a table. The original plan? Make a place for people to stay connected, not just make iconic wine. By the time the Palmaz family started plotting out a winery, they didn't care about tasting rooms or trendy tourism—they wanted a gravity-flow cave cut straight into Coombsville bedrock, built to preserve the integrity of what they'd grown and harvested. For Florencia Palmaz, "romance" isn't something you layer on through storytelling—it's a byproduct of doing the hard, risky, unglamorous work, and then inviting others to share the table for an unfiltered experience. Her background means she doesn't flinch when confronted with chaos—whether it's wildfires, swings in the market, or the near-overnight pivot to virtual tastings that saved her team during the pandemic. Listen as she torches the smoke-and-mirror tactics of the modern wine world, insists that hospitality starts with actually caring (not performing), and reminds us that the room where it happens—whether a rustic asado or a high-design cave—is just a vessel. What matters? Who you gather, the grit you bring, and the memories built, one earnest glass at a time. If you're craving more than a collector's label and want the hard truths of wine, family, and survival, consider this your invite to see what's really behind the bottle. YouTube: https://youtu.be/VUxeVsE03O4 Palmaz Vineyards: https://www.palmazvineyards.com/ Château Montelena: https://www.montelena.com/ Grgich Hills Estate: https://www.grgich.com/ Terra Vox: https://terravox.wine/ Heitz Vineyard (Heitz Cellar): https://www.heitzcellar.com/
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#551
September 15 · 1 hr 7 min
Digital Nomads Swarm Armenia—And a 400 year old vineyard? Meet Mathew Zein
Who does this? I am actually part jealous and part concerned for this mans sanity. He goes to a country, married no less, to visit for a week and hasn't left for 10 years. I'm like "what?" When Matthew landed in Armenia, he didn't bring a suitcase full of big plans—just a battered laptop and the crazy notion that a tiny country he didn't even have roots in could become his home. Instead, what happened next might change how you think about destiny, culture, and even what it means to plug in and connect. This isn't another dry "expat tale" about escaping the ordinary for a bit of Old World charm; it's a crash course in how Armenia—a place you probably imagine as ancient, troubled, or stuck in the past—has thrown the rulebook in the shredder and started rewriting everything. Pull up a chair. You're about to get the straight truth from Matthew: a digital nomad, accidental insider, and the founder of Life in Armenia magazine, whose life now flickers between coworking spaces, ancient vineyards, and surprisingly rowdy late-night barbecues. Paul K leads the charge with sharp, candid questions—so expect less travel-brochure, more reality check. Here's what your brain is going to download: 💻 How Armenia's leap into 5G, remote work, and startup culture is outpacing expectations—and why tiny size is now a massive tech advantage. 💻 The bizarre, science-backed theory that Armenian grammar actually reprograms minds for coding and artificial intelligence—yep, seriously. 💻 Why Armenia's streets run safe and free after dark, why young women don't think twice about walking home at 2 a.m., and why this is a bigger tourism draw than you'd guess. 💻 The uproarious collision of ancient vineyards, French winemakers, and a hands-off philosophy: "let the Armenian mountains make the wine, not the machinery." 💻 How the digital nomad wave is remaking provincial Armenian towns into year-round creative hubs—no more sleepy border outposts here. 💻 What happens when a magazine refuses politics, gloom, or handouts and spotlights only the positive—sparking thousands to ask, "Is this really Armenia?" By the end, you'll realize: the only thing more unpredictable than Armenia's future is the energy that powers it—and how, in a place with a new story on every corner, sometimes the biggest risk is never showing up at all. YouTube: https://youtu.be/zBVKweKgorg Life in Armenia magazine: https://www.lifeinarmenia.org Voskevaz Winery: https://voskevaz.am Invino Wine Bar: https://invino.am Caras Winery: https://www.karaswines.com/ Wine Paris (wine show): https://wineparis-vinexpo.com Willy's Wine Bar: https://www.willyswinebar.com/
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#550
September 11 · 1 hr
Why Most Master Sommeliers Are Still Broke: Doug Frost Exposes Industry Secrets
The top accolades in the wine trade are tough to acquire. The Master of Wine and the Master Sommelier both can take years if not a decade to study for and pass the tests. But to have both credentials on your resume! I'm like what? Doug Frost is the man...and one of three in the world that have accomplished earning both accolades. It's one thing to love wine, but it's another to flat-out admit you may have to drink your entire inventory if nobody else buys in. That's the raw honesty you're in for with Doug Frost, a man who admits that in wine, if you want a small fortune, you'd better start with a large one. Think you know what "success" means in the wine world? Think again. As Doug Frost reveals, chasing the rarest titles—Master of Wine and Master Sommelier—wasn't about the money or even the glory. In fact, his big reward was a job offer that didn't get a dollar sweeter after adding Master of Wine to his resume. Ever fallen for the myth that a fancy degree or diploma in the wine industry guarantees you fat paychecks and endless wine-soaked vacations? Doug Frost calls B.S.—the "brass ring" is an illusion, and the real payout is getting to teach, write, and hang with "your people." Get ready to question the cult of Napa: why would anyone with "Kansas City blood" chase wine real estate thousands of miles away? Doug Frost dishes on why he'd never do Napa—but risked it all on Walla Walla, Washington instead. If you thought passing the Master Sommelier exam is just a European geography bee, brace yourself. The modern test now requires you to know Australia's Premier Crus and regional clones—but don't be surprised if your whole study session gets wasted on the world's easiest question. You'll get the cold, sobering truth about the state of the industry: wine sales are slumping, the cool kids are either skipping booze or lighting up something else, and the real money these days is in spirits and cocktails. But don't expect nostalgia for days gone by—this is a brutally honest evisceration of the "wine business romance." It's about survival, hard choices, and the ugly realities of making "honest wine" in a world obsessed with packaging and instant gratification. Forget fairy tales. You'll find out why direct-to-consumer is the only endgame for most American wineries, and why, even after 30 years, Doug Frost is still hustling for every bottle sold—because the alternative is disappearing into the shadows of venture-capital wine giants. What You'll Learn: 🍷 Why nobody gets rich in wine—unless they start off rich, and even then, it's a gamble. 🍷 The dirty difference between a Master Sommelier and a Master of Wine—depth, width, and what really matters. 🍷 Why "passion" is the only thing keeping people in the industry—and why that's a dangerous drug. 🍷 The dark side of wine packaging: cans, paper bottles, and the marketing scam that might be ruining real wine. 🍷 How generational shifts and social taboos are putting wine on the endangered list, while cocktails and cannabis cash in. 🍷 "Honest wine" vs "grocery store swill"—how most popular wines are engineered for shelf space, not soul. Get ready. This is wine talk with the gloves off. YouTube: https://youtu.be/31Robx9XTOM WSET (Wine & Spirit Education Trust): https://www.wsetglobal.com Court of Master Sommeliers: https://www.mastersommeliers.org Trader Joe's: https://www.traderjoes.com Penfolds: https://www.penfolds.com Venturi Aerator (Vinturi): https://www.vinturi.com Echolands Winery: https://www.echolandswinery.com Pepper Bridge Winery: https://www.pepperbridge.com Amavi Cellars: https://www.amavicellars.com Constellation Brands: https://www.cbrands.com Château Ste. Michelle: https://www.ste-michelle.com Mondavi Winery (Robert Mondavi): https://www.robertmondaviwinery.com Inglenook: https://www.inglenook.com Yao Family Wines (Yao Ming): https://www.yaofamilywines.com Southern Glazer's Wine & Spirits: https://www.southernglazers.com Breakthru Beverage Group: https://www.breakthrubev.com Napa Valley Register: https://napavalleyregister.com "Cali Red from Snoop Dogg" refer to 19 Crimes—https://www.19crimes.com
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#550
September 8 · 1 hr 2 min
Is It Going To Work? Ancient Wines, Modern Idea: How Armenia Is Sharing Its Bottles: Vahe Baloulian.
This is cleaver, and grass roots. Vahe has an idea to promote the wines of Armenia, one bottle, one dinner, one enthusiat at a time. And, if you ask me, that is what it is going to take to get the industry grounded again. There is alot of spectulation on the role AI will play in this renassance, and most likely the role will be voluminous, but AI cannon the place of sharing a bottle of wine with a friend. And Vahe is proposing this very idea. If you've ever wondered how the wine world can get shaken up by a little friendly challenge, you're in for a treat! In this episode, host Paul Kalemkiarian and guest Vahe spill the wine (figuratively) on why the second week of November is something to circle on your calendar: Armenian Wine Week—globally! What's the Big Idea? During Armenian Wine Week, every Armenian is encouraged to: Buy 2 bottles of Armenian wine. Gift 1 bottle to a non-Armenian friend—spread the love, and the tannins! Challenge 3 friends to do the same—think of it as the "Ice Bucket Challenge" but far more delicious (and less shocking to the system). As Vahe quips, "Every Armenian is a boat that can take this wine to the ocean of wine drinkers" 00:18. You don't even have to drink it all yourself—just share, enjoy, and invite others to the wine party. Imagine your Thanksgiving table with a bottle from "my ancient land" and a great story to go with it! 00:24. The Grassroots Spirit This isn't your typical top-down campaign. Vahe describes it as purely grassroots—no big-budget ads, just community, passion, and a dash of friendly competition. There's no event to organize, no one to blame, and no committees to argue over poster colors 44:39. It's "everybody's wine week," with customizable logos and materials—so if you hate the color, make your own (and maybe throw in some glitter if you're feeling festive) 46:46. Why Armenian Wine (and Why Now)? Armenian wines have come a long way. Once, they were (to put it gently) "virtually undrinkable" according to Paul Kalemkiarian 05:12, but now there are bottles that belong on the world stage, at a price that's still a bargain 10:14. The experiment is simple: let the world taste and discover them. And if you need a makeshift conversation starter while gifting your neighbor a bottle, drop the "world's oldest winemaking region" fact for bonus points 15:53. How Do You Measure Success? It's easy: when distributors start running out of stock and wine shops need to restock those Armenian labels, you'll know the experiment worked 45:32. Until then, every bottle shared is a tiny wave in that "ocean of wine drinkers." Want In? Keep an eye out for www.armenianwineweek.com (coming September), where you can find which wine shops, distributors, and restaurants are on board. And remember—there's no wrong way to participate, as long as you're sharing, toasting, and challenging others to join in the fun 46:00. So pour a glass, pass a bottle, and be the waves that bring something ancient to someone new! Cheers—may your "wine networking" be strong and your stories unforgettable. https://youtu.be/lBf0xGz0cKY Trinity Canyon Vineyards: https://trinitycanyon.com/ In Vino (wine bar in Yerevan): https://invino.am/ Armenian Wine Week campaign: https://armenianwineweek.com/, https://armenianwine.com/ Wine Armenia Network: https://winearmenia.org/
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#549
August 31 · 52 min
Champagne Rebel: Marvina Robinson Pops the Industry's Bubble
Most...no, all Champagne and Sparkling wine houses will tell you: Champagne is not just foe celebration. Kind of like tinsel in the movie Elf (not just for decoration). Enter Marvina Robinson with an intriguing journey from Wall Street to the wonderful world of wine and Champagne. Who would hang up their proverbial cleats of a steady high paying job for the unknown landscape of adult beverages and uncertainty. Nobody ever told Marvina Robinson that starting a champagne brand as a Black woman from Brooklyn was "a good idea"—in fact, they told her the opposite. She laughed, uncorked, and did it anyway. In this intoxicating episode, you're invited behind the scenes of a sparkling rebellion—where French tradition meets Brooklyn hustle and a bottle isn't just something to toast with, but a lifelong calling and a statement of intent. If you think you know how a champagne label gets built from scratch, think again. Marvina Robinson is about to show you the underbelly, from hands-on midnight label designs to the grind of shipping logistics, stigma, and triumph. Settle in as Paul Kalemkiarian guides this no-bull** conversation through the unexpected and the defiant. You'll hear how champagne is more than the liquid in your flute—how every pop, fizz, and pour carries the imprint of a woman who built her brand without a cent from investors or a whisper of industry approval. The myth that champagne is just for celebrations? Consider it smashed. Here, it's a daily fuel, a vessel of memories, and sometimes, necessary armor against sexism and doubt. You'll sit at Marvina Robinson's tasting table—a place where experience is non-negotiable. Learn how word-of-mouth and hospitality can outperform any big-money PR blitz, and why real stories (and real setbacks) are the true foundation of resilience. This is the blueprint for anyone sick of gatekeeping, tired of artificial hype, and ready to find out what it actually takes to survive—and thrive—in wine. When the bottles open, so do the truths. Here's what you'll walk away knowing: 🍾 The gritty reality of building a champagne brand solo—zero PR, zero BS, all hustle 🍾 Why honest champagne is made in the vineyard, not in the marketing room 🍾 How to turn doubters and haters into fuel for your fire (and maybe even serve them a glass) 🍾 The secret to hosting unforgettable tastings that teach as much as they celebrate 🍾 How navigating racism, sexism, and "you'll never make it" shaped Marvina Robinson's mission 🍾 Why experience—not credentials—is the currency that keeps B. Stuyvesant Champagne growing, bottle by bottle Ready to bust every champagne myth you ever believed? Pour yourself something real and listen in.
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#548
August 25 · 52 min
Visionary Disruption: How David Kong Is Redefining Wine Glassware for a New Generation
It takes "b_ll$"to go after industry giants. And it doesn't mean toppling an industry giant, it just means getting a slice of the pie. I have witnessed numerous attempts at this in a variety of sectors, and most fail...and for many reasons..but this idea is working. David Kong might have traded the high-octane pace of New York hedge funds for the delicate clink of hand-blown glass, but don't think for a moment he's lost his edge. In this episode, you'll hear how an outsider to the wine glass industry spotted a wide-open niche, challenged global heavyweights, and built a thriving company—all by obsessing over quality, price, and experience. Paul Kalemkiarian sits down with David Kong to trace the unlikely journey from financial analysis to the sensory world of wine glass design, unearthing what really happens when you try to disrupt a tradition-bound market. You'll learn how, through sharp intuition and a knack for timing, David Kong built a direct-to-consumer glassware company that quietly caught fire through word-of-mouth—not flashy ads or influencers. He reveals what makes a hand-blown glass so irresistible to both diners and restaurateurs, and why elevating the vessel is about a lot more than aesthetics: it's about economics, market trends, and the way people experience wine. The conversation spans the practical—such as breakage rates and budgets—to the philosophical, with a deep dive into how glassware touches the very heart of hospitality. Curious how glass thickness, the weight of a vessel, or even the glass company's business model can change the way you enjoy a bottle? Wonder why the trend toward lighter, featherweight glasses has taken the fine-dining world by storm, or how the rise of non-alcoholic "wines" and ready-to-drinks is shaking up both producers and purveyors? This is your chance to hear it straight from the founder who's shifting expectations in some of America's best restaurants. Here's what you'll learn, one wine glass at a time: 🍷 The critical role that hand-blown wine glasses play in enhancing the wine experience 🍷 Why restaurateurs break more glasses—and why that's actually a good sign for business 🍷 How premium glassware can differentiate a restaurant and boost wine program profits 🍷 The surprising ways glassware trends ripple through both high-end and everyday hospitality 🍷 Insights into the rise of non-alcoholic drinks—and how glass choice still shapes the experience 🍷 Why a business built on word-of-mouth, not marketing budgets, can change the landscape By the end of this episode, you'll have an insider's appreciation for the intersection of touch, taste, and economics—and you might just find yourself scrutinizing your own stemware with new reverence the next time you pour a glass. YouTube: https://youtu.be/J7kblUtLZAY GlassVin: https://www.glassvin.com Baccarat: https://www.baccarat.com Coravin: https://www.coravin.com Zalto: https://www.zaltoglas.com Riedel: https://www.riedel.com Wine Searcher: https://www.wine-searcher.com Patina Restaurant Group: https://www.patinagroup.com Benno (NYC Restaurant): https://www.bennorestaurant.com Jancis Robinson Glassware: https://www.richardbrendon.com/pages/jancis-robinson-collection Cantillon Brewery: https://www.cantillon.be Whole Foods: https://www.wholefoodsmarket.com
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#547
August 21 · 45 min
Secrets Under the Table at Stecca: What Really Happens in a Tiny Kitchen: Giorgio Vizia and Wimberly Meyer.
The crazy world of hospitality can be considered a lost art. It seems more and more restaurants are opening as a walk up, order, take your table number and wait. Hardly a "how are you?" and it all seems lost. Enter Stecca Traverna. An unassuming Italian tavern in the heart of the So Cal surf capital, Hermosa Beach. Then I visited the kitchen, it was so small..."how small was it?" "It was so small that the shrimp didn't fit." Giorgio Vizia jokes that he was born to the sound of pots clanging and sauce simmering—destined for a life in the kitchen before he'd even tasted his first meal. When you listen to this episode of Wine Talks, you'll discover how that predestination, along with a passionate partnership at Stecca Taverna, has blossomed into far more than a place to eat: it's a loving invitation into an Italian living room, every bite crafted to make guests feel like family. Your journey starts in a kitchen so tiny even Giorgio wonders how he fits his culinary dreams between the refrigerator and the stove. Using resourcefulness—and a keen sense of seasonality—he shares how every carrot and sprig of basil is handpicked, prepared, and plated the same day, resulting in meals that shimmer with authenticity and never rely on waste or shortcuts 13:18. But beyond the food, you'll be invited to take a seat at their communal table, where mutual respect and creative freedom form the backbone of Stecca's success. Hear how Giorgio and his partners choreograph the dance between kitchen and front-of-house, each trusting the other to shine in their respective domains, avoiding the pitfalls of ego and competition that so often plague restaurant ventures 04:50. As you listen, you'll see surprising parallels drawn between the worlds of film production and restaurant management. The adrenaline, scheduling, and improvisational skills learned on set transfer seamlessly into the high-octane, high-reward environment of a bustling Hermosa Beach taverna 03:15. The conversation delves into the realities of hospitality today—a business where passion, not profit, is the true motivator, especially in uncertain economic times 09:25. Giorgio and his partners reflect on what it means to build community, serve joy, and maintain work-life balance in careers where the hours never really stop. You'll also question the speed of modern life and the true value of slowing down. From intentional ambience to curated wine lists, Stecca aims to recreate that elusive spark of European dining, inviting us all to enjoy experiences over efficiency, to truly connect at the table 17:32. Tune in for these six sharp takeaways—each a reason to savor this episode: 🗡 How a kitchen's tiny footprint can fuel daily freshness, eliminate waste, and enhance quality 13:54 🗡 Why mutual respect and defined creative zones are crucial for sustaining a passionate team 04:50 🗡 The transferable skills from film set chaos to restaurant floor—budgeting, timelines, and improvisation 03:15 🗡 Why old-world values and immigrant ambition remain the secret ingredients to restaurant resilience 30:34 🗡 What role curated wine lists play in creating unforgettable dining moments and community 12:25 🗡 How slowing down, savoring, and embracing experience over speed can revive our craving for genuine connection 17:32 Come away with a nuanced understanding of how every dish, every note of music, and every exchange at Stecca is intentionally crafted—a mosaic of passion, family legacy, and never-ending hunger to "do better every day." YouTube: https://youtu.be/sTZWhAez44k Stecca Taverna https://www.steccataverna.com/ Drago Central (Drago Ristorante Group) https://www.dragorestaurant.com/ Celestino Ristorante https://www.celestinopasadena.com/ San Antonio Winery / Stella Rosa https://sanantoniowinery.com/ https://www.stellarosawines.com/ Jonathan Club https://www.jc.org/ Château Haut-Bailly https://www.hautbailly.com/en/
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#546
August 18 · 51 min
Are Gen Z and High Wine Prices Killing the Industry? Paul Mabray and Andrew Levy Answer.
It is going around. The wine business is slow. Slow to change, slow to recognize the market, slow to become digital...shall I keep going. Two gentleman agree, at least on the retails front. Paul Mabray is an old friend. Andrew Levy is a new friend, and they have teamed up, with dozens of wine tech years between them, to solve some problems. Problems that seem natural to fix through tech in our trade. Have a listen, these guys get it. Paul Mabray and Andrew Levy have never been shy about shaking the wine industry's dusty foundations. They've watched as old ideas about how wine gets into a drinker's glass have collided with the demands of a digital-first world—and now they're ready to pour out what most in the business are too scared to say out loud. Think wine distribution's stuck in the last century? You're not wrong. This episode takes you inside the chaos and opportunity of "the final mile," where millions in brand excitement evaporate because a shopper can't actually find the bottle they want. PourNow isn't just another tech solution. It's a weapon against dead-end marketing and the three-tier system's ancient gatekeeping. Mabray and Levy aren't interested in playing nice with tradition—they're here to dismantle it. Ever wondered why the average consumer ends up buying whatever's on sale, not what they love? Hint: Supermarkets stuff shelf talkers at you because nobody has figured out how to truly connect excitement to purchase—until now. Amazon's ambitions to own the alcohol game? They fizzled. Listen in for what really happened behind the scenes—and how most digital marketplaces have failed drinkers and brands alike. You'll find out why "omnichannel" isn't just marketing lingo, but a bare-knuckle fight for survival for small wineries, indie shops, and even industry giants. Turns out, nobody is immune from the shakeup. Are you ready for the blunt truth about digital marketing "consultants" and the masses of self-proclaimed wine influencers? Mabray and Levy spill the real reasons most of them can't hack it. Discover why today's shopper is digitally native and ruthless—expecting to buy whenever and wherever they want, even if it means bypassing the industry's sacred cows. This isn't a glossy industry PR piece. It's about hard metrics, hard lessons, and the hard reality that the wine business is forever at risk of being outpaced by its own customers. Pour yourself something bold, because after this episode, you'll never look at a wine shelf, a tasting, or an Instagram ad the same way again. What you will learn: 🍷 Why the three-tier system's chokehold on wine sales is crumbling—and who's panicking behind the curtain 🍷 The dirty secret of so-called "omnichannel" marketing (hint: it's survival, not strategy) 🍷 How most consultants and digital "experts" are snake oil salesmen who can't deliver real conversions 🍷 The hidden tech and data tricks that actually trace every ad dollar to a bottle sold—exposing winners, losers, and frauds 🍷 How PourNow is arming brands and retailers to bypass the old guard, break dead ends, and put power back in the hands of consumers and innovators YouTube: https://youtu.be/f7_BbMITmE0
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#545
August 13 · 1 hr 9 min
Orange Wine Is Not a Fad: Digging Up Ancient Flavors in Modern Bottles; Meet Stetson Robbins.
I met Stetson years ago. Orange wine was not a thing. But he was making it a thing. I was intrigued by his commitment to the sector and the develpment of Georgian wine in the US, particularly in Los Angeles. Bringing Stetson Robbins onto this show is like popping the cork on a bottle you've never heard of, from a country you can barely pronounce, and finding it's the most fascinating taste you didn't know you craved. Forget everything you thought you knew about wine, because this conversation isn't about chasing the next California cab or French pinot—this is about tracking the wild, unfiltered edge of the wine world through the forgotten vineyards of Eastern Europe, where tradition, culture, and rebellion ferment side by side. The conversation focused on peeling away the comfort (and sometimes the snobbery) of the usual wine stories and diving deep into what it means for a wine to actually taste like where it's from—right down to the hands, palates, and histories of the people making it. One concept discussed was the big secret of "terroir"—not just dirt, weather, or latitude, but the food, the local tradition, and even the pressures of the market itself. These are wines born not just from grapevines, but from migration, resistance, and centuries of culinary survival. You'll learn how post-Soviet countries like Slovenia, Croatia, and Georgia have turned their backs on cookie-cutter commercial varietals, instead resurrecting their own native grapes and bringing ancient techniques—like wild fermentation in massive underground clay qvevris—right to the glasses of skeptical sommeliers and thirsty Brooklynites alike. A key theme that emerged was that true winemaking is messy, unpredictable, and profoundly human. The discussion explored not only what orange wine actually is (spoiler: it's not fruit salad in a glass), but why it's shaking up wine scenes from coast to coast, frustrating purists and delighting experimenters. Several points were raised, including how even the act of importing these bottles is a full-throttle exercise in grit, luck, and sometimes chaos. This episode will have you questioning everything you thought made a good wine—and craving an adventure, not just a drink. 🍾 How the culture, cuisine, and quirks of a region become liquid in your glass 🍾 Why "orange wine" is the oldest new thing in the wine world—and why it's taking over 🍾 The radical differences between Eastern European winemaking and Western obsessions 🍾 What really happened when ancient amphoras met modern Brooklyn bars 🍾 How grape genetics, wild fermentation, and centuries-old mistakes are now marketing gold 🍾 Why, after this hour, you might never look at a wine label—or a waiter—the same way Stetson Robbins is a dynamic force in the world of wine, fusing a theatrical background with a passion for exploring wine's deepest roots. His journey began in college, majoring in theater and delving into Greek studies, where the Dionysian tradition first sparked his fascination with the cultural significance of wine 03:06. Waiting tables at Walt's Wharf in Seal Beach introduced him to the nuanced world of wine service, and fueled his desire to learn more. Encouraged by a wine-focused restaurant culture, he pursued sommelier training, including the Court of Master Sommeliers—a path that led him from Walt's Wharf to Napa Rose at Disneyland, a renowned training ground for aspiring sommeliers 06:10. Despite this foundation, Stetson Robbins's real intrigue lay in the stories of winemakers and the diverse cultures shaping wine across the globe. His move into retail at shops specializing in value-driven French wines connected him with import specialist Peter Mann, opening the doors to heritage tastings in Bordeaux and Burgundy 08:07. The true turning point came with Blue Danube Wine, where he championed unique Eastern European wines—particularly from regions overlooked in the U.S. market, including Slovenia, Croatia, Hungary, and Georgia. Over more than a decade, Stetson Robbins was instrumental in building Blue Danube's portfolio and expanding its footprint to markets like New York and Los Angeles 22:46. Today, Stetson Robbins is co-founder of Black Lamb, a California-based boutique wine importer run alongside his wife. Black Lamb specializes in sourcing wines from the Slovenian-Italian border and the Republic of Georgia, focusing on traditional, "ancient" winemaking techniques such as skin-fermented whites ("orange wines") and wines fermented in Georgian qvevris. His mission is equal parts education and adventure: introducing curious American drinkers to the diversity, culture, and terroir that make these wines unforgettable 01:06:30.
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#544
August 11 · 57 min
Strikes, Somms, and Screwups: David Schulner's Wild Ride Beyond Hollywood
I am pretty sure you didn't catch the article in the Somm Journal written by David Schulner. And if you did, you were not as jealous as I was. Well, let's call it inspired. Trading the glitz of Hollywood for the chaos of the restaurant floor, David Schulner doesn't just pour wine—he pours gasoline on the genteel myths swirling around it. You'll hear what happens when a successful TV showrunner, fresh off the picket lines of the 2023 writers' strike, crashes headfirst into the closed ranks of Michelin-star restaurants. Forget those dreamy drone shots over gleaming vineyards; David Schulner exposes the cutthroat realities of wine service, the humiliations of being the new kid at 50, and why, even with a TV resumé, you can't buy your way onto the restaurant floor. If you still think wine is all velvet gloves and romantic stories, think again—this is one guest who's happy to spill the dirty secrets, right alongside the Pomerol. In this episode, you'll discover what hospitality really means in an industry obsessed with pedigree, why most people—Sommeliers included—are entirely faking it, and who gets left behind when Napa and Bordeaux "evolve." David Schulner and Paul Kalemkiarian aren't afraid to torch the sacred cows of the wine world, from pretentious tasting rooms to the sanitized myths of customer service. Instead of parroting the party line, you'll get a front-row seat to the raw, awkward, ego-bruising reality of what it takes to serve, sell, and survive when the masks come off. If you're tired of wine podcasts that sound like a sommelier's TED Talk—or shows that make the industry look like a playground for privileged insiders—this conversation will rattle your cage. David Schulner lays bare why most restaurants won't hire a middle-aged rookie with Hollywood connections, why real hospitality is an act of rebellion against wine snobbery, and how every industry he's loved is "on the death knell"—and that's exactly what makes them magic. The result? An unfiltered, sometimes uncomfortable, ultimately inspiring blueprint for anyone who's ever wondered if there's a place for outsiders in one of the world's most insular trades. You won't just walk away with surface-level talking points. You'll come away with forbidden knowledge and questions that might keep you up at night. Here's your table of contents—open these books at your own risk: 📖 What really happens when you trade TV scripts for wine lists—and why most in the business never see it coming 📖 Why restaurant jobs are harder to land than a first break in Hollywood, no matter your resumé 📖 The dirty secrets of wine certification, and why being a "Certified Sommelier" doesn't mean you actually know anything 📖 How high culture and humble hospitality are always at war behind the scenes—plus who gets trampled in the process 📖 Why Napa's "downturn" might just be the shake-out the wine world desperately needs—and who stands to lose their shirts 📖 The myth of the red carpet: why the best service isn't about knowing the bottle but about making everyone—even a broke, muddy waiter—feel royal Consider this episode your permission slip to crash the velvet rope, ignore the script, and step backstage to where the true drama—and the best conversations—actually unfold. YouTube: https://youtu.be/LsTL52ewBGI Websites of Companies Mentioned Netflix: https://www.netflix.com/ Juilliard: https://www.juilliard.edu/ William Morris Agency (now WME): https://wmeagency.com/ Court of Master Sommeliers: https://www.mastersommeliers.org/ Napa Valley Wine Academy: https://napavalleywineacademy.com/ Gwen Restaurant (by Curtis Stone): https://www.gwenla.com/ Maude (by Curtis Stone): https://www.mauderestaurant.com/ Silver Oak: https://www.silveroak.com/ Caymus Vineyards: https://www.caymus.com/ Opus One Winery: https://www.opusonewinery.com/ Grgich Hills Estate: https://www.grgich.com/ Robert Sinskey Vineyards: https://www.robertsinskey.com/ Wine Paris: https://www.wineparis-vinexpo.com/ Stagecoach Vineyards (now owned by Gallo): https://www.gallo.com/ Vieux Château Certan: https://www.vieuxchateaucertan.com/ Château Cheval Blanc: https://www.chateau-cheval-blanc.com/ AdVini Global: https://www.advini.com/ Châteauneuf-du-Pape (general region info): https://www.chateauneuf.com/ Wine Masters TV: https://winemasters.tv/ SOMM TV: https://www.sommtv.com/ Strand House (Manhattan Beach): https://thestrandhousemb.com/ Great story.
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#543
August 7 · 51 min
Are Michelin Stars Ruining the True Spirit of Great Restaurants? Patric Kuh Tells All
I first met Patrick at our favorite steak house in Manhattan Beach; the Arthur J. The wine list there is one of the most thought out I have seen in all my travels. It was Patricks first day there. We had an intriguing conversation and returned a week later to continue our discussion. Serendipitously, by me eavesdropping on a conversation, I learned that Patrick had authored a book: The Last Days of Haute Cuisine. I was seriously taken by this accomplishment and immediately found the book on Amazon and voraciously read it cover to cover. A stroy of food in America that had been untold prior. Patric Kuh knows a thing or two about the high wire act that is fine dining—after all, he's balanced on that tightrope both in kitchens and at critics' tables, with a sharp pen and a sharper palate. If you've ever dreamed of opening a restaurant, wondered what true "haute cuisine" actually means, or questioned why credit cards changed the whole dining landscape, this is the episode that will entice your culinary curiosity and satisfy your appetite for secrets behind the swinging kitchen doors. You'll discover not just the drama of French chefs staking their claim in midcentury Manhattan, but how the evolution of American dining reflects bigger shifts in society: from exclusivity and velvet ropes to the democratization of great food and the rise of everyday restaurants as vibrant community hubs. Listen as Kuh exposes the risks, financial heartbreak, and ritual of keeping a kitchen spotless—and why a chef's towel over the shoulder means more than a thousand Instagram likes. The conversation dives into the nuts and bolts of writing a food book, the art of savoring (and sometimes cutting) stories, and the age-old rule for restaurant critics to never, ever accept a free meal. By the end, you'll come away with intimate knowledge of how Patric Kuh peels back layer after layer of the restaurant world—one story at a time—until a living, breathing portrait of cuisine, culture, and ambition is served up before you. Here are a few of the fascinating things you'll learn: 🔪 The real meaning—and controversy—behind "haute cuisine" and how it shaped American dining 🔪 How the invention of the credit card forever changed who was allowed to dine in fine restaurants 🔪 Why some of the greatest restaurant stories, like the Kennedy clan being kicked out of Le Pavillon, have roots in deeper social dynamics 🔪 The rigorous (sometimes ruthless) standards of kitchen cleanliness and why they matter to chefs at every level 🔪 What it actually takes—emotionally, financially, and physically—to open and run a successful restaurant 🔪 The unwritten laws of food criticism: anonymity, honesty, and the line that separates opinion from influence YouTube: https://youtu.be/giWG6tQxhOU Links to items spoke about: Spotify Stitcher Google Play iTunes / Apple Podcasts Los Angeles Magazine Pages, a Bookstore Arthur J DoorDash Grubhub Love & Salt Sequoia Grove Winery Osteria Mozza Michelin Guide Le Cirque Chez Panisse Bellagio Las Vegas All Day Baby 21 Royal (Disneyland) #WineTalks, #FoodWriting, #RestaurantLife, #FineDining, #HauteCuisine, #NouvelleCuisine, #MichelinGuide, #FoodHistory, #FoodCritic, #CulinaryArts, #Restaurateur, #Hospitality, #FrenchCuisine, #FoodCulture, #DiningExperience, #LAeats, #WritersLife, #JamesBeardAward, #FoodPodcast, #CulinaryStories
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#539
August 4 · 56 min
Napa's Lost Magic: How Commerce Ruined Wine and What Jessica Kogan Wants to Fix
When you meet Jessica Kogan (in-person or virtual), it takes exactly 2/3's of a second to realize she is a force of nature...marketing nature as it were. Perhaps the most frequent guest on Wine Talks, each episode has had a unique viewpoint on the latest in wine marketing, data mining, and outside pressures. I welcome back, Jessica Kogan. If you think Napa is just for tuxedoed snobs or that wine tastings only happen in picturesque châteaus, wait until Jessica Kogan shakes up your tired assumptions. Jessica Kogan is the industry disruptor who believes the heart of wine isn't bottled in glass—it's poured out in the local grocery aisle, one wild, unfiltered conversation at a time. You'll hear how she's forging revolution from the retail trenches, ditching sterile focus groups for nearly a million real-life customer conversations every year. Here, sampling isn't just some checkbox—it's a battleground where authentic brand love is won, and the old guard of wine marketing is put on notice. Forget discounting your way into hearts. Jessica Kogan explains why slashing prices only slices away the soul of your brand and how risk, confidence, and even the rise of wine-in-a-can are reshaping the landscape. She'll tell you why the TikTok generation isn't afraid of booze—they're just bored by mediocre storytelling and fake experiences. Get ready for uncomfortable truths: Wine is in danger of losing the next generation unless it gets back to basics—face-to-face, glass-to-glass, moment-to-moment. And yes, the magic of Napa is still alive, but it's happening at the checkout line, not behind velvet ropes. By the end, you'll realize that the future of wine may just be as much about listening as it is about tasting. And in the era of digital everything, you might crave the next awkward, enlightening chat with a stranger offering you a sample at the store. What you'll learn: Why sampling in your neighborhood supermarket might be more revolutionary than any digital campaign How the wine aisle became a confidence-sapping jungle—and how to hack your way through Why discounting is for cowards and storytellers win the real loyalty wars How Gen Z and Millennials are demanding their wine—and why "wine in a can" isn't a joke The dirty little secret about focus groups vs. real-world conversations with nearly a million shoppers Why, if wine doesn't get back to real human connection, it might lose its soul forever Cameron Hughes Wines: https://chwine.com Vintage Wine Estates: https://www.vintagewineestates.com HSP Brands: https://hspbrands.com Total Wine & More: https://www.totalwine.com Château Haut-Bailly: https://www.haut-bailly.com Donna Karan: https://www.donnakaran.com #wineindustry #podcast #winetasting #JessicaKogan #PaulKalemkiarian #NapaValley #Sonoma #consumerexperience #winemarketing #retailinsights #directtoconsumer #wineclubs #brandstorytelling #HSPBrands #digitalmarketing #experientialmarketing #offpremisesales #winetrends #winepricing #RTDs
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#540
July 29 · 46 min
Did Dr. Jan Krupp Abandon Medicine for a Vineyard Gamble That Changed Napa Forever?
You have not heard it all, contrary to the American colloquialism "Now...I've heard it all." I've seen many professionals trade in their shingle for the wine trade. Attorneys, eye doctors, MDs, and others. Most of the time they are seeking the lifestyle that is purported to belong to winemaking. For sure, this type of career move will test your resolve; many find out that it wasn't and isn't what they were seeking. Enter Dr. Jan Krupp, a celebrated Internist who got the calling. Can you imagine? Solid career, solid practice, helping others all tossed to the side of the road to enter the wine trade. But when he was told that his most desired property was virtually useless for wine grapes, he jumped at the opportunity- yes, jumped at the opportunity. This adventure would become the famed Stagecoach Vineyards....and turn into a multi-million dollar sale to Gallo. Trading a stethoscope for a shovel is not your everyday midlife crisis, but Dr. Jan Krupp makes it sound as natural as coaxing vines from volcanic rock. In this episode, you're invited into the world of a physician who took the road less traveled—straight up an unplantable Napa hillside—to plant the seeds of what would become the famed Stagecoach Vineyard. You'll discover how Dr. Jan Krupp applied scientific precision and creative drive to transform barren land into one of California's most celebrated grape sources, all while welding together risk, relentless work, and a bit of luck in the kiln of family partnership. Listen as he peels back the layers of his own journey—from home winemaking in a garage to collaborating with legendary consultants and top winemakers, each step a blend of experimentation and vision. You'll gain an inside look at his new book, Forging Eden, an exploration not just of Napa terroir, but of personal transformation and resilience. Along the way, Dr. Jan Krupp and Paul Kalemkiarian reveal the untold challenges that come with creating a world-class vineyard, wrestle with the shifting tides of Napa's hospitality and wine tourism, and debate the future of authentic winemaking in the age of crown caps and experiential brands. 🥂 The creative leap from medicine to winemaking: what drove Dr. Jan Krupp to leave a successful career for the unknowns of Napa's rocky hillsides 🥂 The secrets behind transforming "unplantable" land into the renowned Stagecoach Vineyard, and why the world's top winemakers wanted his fruit 🥂 The intricate dance between science and intuition in crafting both grapes and wine—without ever having to earn a diploma from UC Davis 🥂 Personal sacrifices and how major life decisions—including upheavals in family—shaped the very landscape of modern Napa viticulture 🥂 A firsthand account of Napa's evolving wine scene, tourism struggles, and whether a new generation can discover the same passion for handcrafted wines 🥂 How inspiration—and a little serendipity—can help you forge your own path, no matter how daunting the odds Pour yourself a glass and settle in for a conversation that uncorks the realities, risks, and rewards of chasing a vision that changed the face of California wine. YouTube: https://youtu.be/LkZaS3b8rLI Places and companies you may have heard during the show: Stagecoach Vineyards: https://www.stagecoachvineyard.com/ Krupp Brothers: https://kruppbrothers.com/ Silver Oak: https://www.silveroak.com/ Wine of the Month Club: https://www.wineofthemonthclub.com/ Trader Joe's: https://www.traderjoes.com/ Château Montelena: https://montelena.com/ Opus (Opus One Winery): https://www.opusonewinery.com/ Orin Swift: https://www.orinswift.com/ Gallo (E. & J. Gallo Winery): https://www.gallo.com/ Caymus: https://www.caymus.com/ #wine, #winetalks, #napavalley, #stagecoachvineyard, #kruppbrothers, #drjankrupp, #winestory, #vineyardlife, #winepodcast, #forgingeden, #winemaking, #wineenthusiast, #winehistory, #medicinetowine, #grapegrowing, #wineinspiration, #napawine, #californiawine, #familybusiness, #wineindustry
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#535
July 23 · 54 min
The Wine World Needs to Wake Up: Jean-Charles Boisset on Biodynamics and Breaking Rules
It is official. Not a soul can visit the Napa Valley without witnessing the fingerprints of Jean-Charles Boisset. They are everywhere, and not because he is trying consume the entire valley, but because he earnestly believes in the soulfull value of an honest glass of wine. I consider Jean-Charles a friend, though he may not remember my name, he makes you feel like the only person in the room. Jean-Charles Boisset descends on the wine world like a storm in Baccarat—disruptive, dazzling, and unapologetically bold. He doesn't just challenge conventional wisdom; he shatters it, glass by glass. This episode swirls the sediment lying undisturbed at the bottom of wine's oldest traditions and asks if the industry is ready to face what floats to the top. For Boisset, the glass isn't just half full or half empty—it's a symbol of revolution. He questions why so many winemakers cling to synthetic shortcuts, and why the American dream of innovation dares to outshine the European obsession with lineage and terroir. When he proclaims that wine can bring peace, he's not being airy—he's challenging the centuries-old gatekeeping that has kept wine and its culture an exclusive club, and he wants you to take a seat at the table. The unfiltered conversation goes beyond polite tasting notes and sanitized marketing speak. Boisset exposes the darker legacy of agriculture's chemical age, candidly recalling how even Burgundy's most hallowed soils were ravaged by pesticides and herbicides in the name of efficiency and modernity. He doesn't hesitate to point fingers at both his native France and his adopted America, calling out complacency, prejudice, and the blindness that persists in the vineyard, the cellar, and society at large. If you've ever doubted the true cost of "progress" in your glass, Boisset's relentless optimism—and his willingness to provoke uncomfortable truths—will have you rethinking everything from your choice of stemware to the politics of what's poured at state dinners. Listeners won't just leave with facts—they'll carry a new lens, sharpened by controversy and inspired by possibility. Boisset's energy, fueled by both science and spirituality, won't let anyone off the hook. Can wine really erase borders and prejudices, or is that just another intoxicating myth sold along with the label? As Boisset toasts unity, he challenges the wine world to stop hiding behind tradition, and instead, innovate with conscience. 🍷 What you will learn, poured straight, edge first: 🍷 Why your elegant wine glass may hold a hidden legacy of agricultural poisoning and denial 🍷 How France's revered vineyards almost destroyed themselves chasing modern "progress" 🍷 In what ways the American wine dream threatens—and saves—old-world privilege 🍷 How wine's supposed unity may actually mask centuries of elitism and exclusion 🍷 The real impact of lunar cycles, energy, and biodynamics—science or seductive storytelling? 🍷 Why Boisset thinks the only sin worse than bad wine is complacency—in your glass and in your worldview Baccarat: https://www.baccarat.com Buena Vista Winery: https://www.buenavistawinery.com Raymond Vineyards: https://www.raymondvineyards.com 1881 Napa: https://www.1881napa.com JCB by Jean-Charles Boisset: https://jcbcollection.com Omar Khayyam (historical restaurant): No current website; historical references only. Ornellaia: https://www.ornellaia.com Sassicaia: https://www.sassicaia.com
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#534
July 21 · 57 min
Husband and Wife Team Transforms Passion into a Thriving Wine Bar: Chuck and Amanda Azar
I was walking on Pier Avenue in Hermosa Beach and I spied some activity in what was a small French inspired restaurant which had closed months earlier. I decided to poke my head in a find you what was going on. Greeted by a smiling, pleasant woman, I sat at the new wine bar named Malendrina. And the conversation ensued as I was completely taken by Amanda Azar and the story of her and her husbanc, Chuck and their venture into enrtrepreneurship. Amanda Azar may be the only person who can make "torturing" her partner with bad wine sound like a priceless education, but that's just the tip of the bottle here. In this episode, you'll enter the world of two hospitality visionaries who've poured sweat, soul, and every saved penny into their dream—a wine bar born from decades inside both the supplier and distributor trenches of the wine industry. You'll hear stories of failures—10,000 wine brands, 99% of them doomed—and how the real magic comes not from corporate playbooks or celebrity endorsements, but from relentless perseverance, deep culture, and a partnership fueled by passion, humor, and plenty of grape leaves. Here, a glass isn't just filled; it's accompanied by stories, family, and genuine warmth. There's inspiration in Amanda's Sicilian childhood, where wine was never taboo but a natural extension of family, food, and connection. Pair this with her partner's Palestinian heritage, and you'll witness how root-deep values of generosity and community shape not just the service but the heart behind it all. The episode uncorks what it truly means to build something together: overcoming headwinds, trusting each other's strengths, and redefining what success and hospitality can look like. And if you've ever wondered what working side-by-side with your spouse looks like when exhaustion and dreams are equally shared, you'll find insight—and camaraderie—at this table. Listen in and you will learn: 🍷 Why "what grows together goes together" is more than a catchy phrase—it's a philosophy for pairing wine, food, and life. 🍷 What it really takes to work with your spouse in business, blending strengths, sharing burdens, and supporting each other's dreams. 🍷 How to curate a wine list that resists commercial sameness and instead tells a story, elevates the experience, and educates palates. 🍷 The secret power of genuine hospitality—treating staff and guests as family, and why that matters more than any fancy marketing. 🍷 Real-world lessons from the trenches: why passion, persistence, and authenticity are worth more than a celebrity name on a wine label. You'll come away not only inspired by their grit but with a deeper sense of what it means to use wine as a vessel for true connection, discovery, and belonging. Tensley Winery: https://www.tensleywines.com Malendrina Wine Bar: https://www.malendrina.com Wine Talks: https://www.winetalkspodcast.com BevMo: https://www.bevmo.com Trader Joe's: https://www.traderjoes.com Southern: https://www.southernglazers.com
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#533
July 14 · 1 hr 15 min
Luxury Wine Hospitality Exposed: Do Sommeliers Really Care About Customers?
I am fascinated with the idea of luxury brands like Dior, LVMH and Armani. It is clearly more than just diversification or trying to find new revenue streams. It is and has become part of the brand On a recent trip to Beverly Hills, I was invited to lunch with the group from Chateau Y'quem. I moved the entire schedule around (duh), to be there. And though I was remiss in remembering who fronted the hospitality, I was taken by the hospitality just the same. Now I am taken by the woman of was at the helm that day. Meet Fahara Zamorano. If you think the wine world is just swirling glasses and sniffing out tasting notes, Fajara Zamorano is here to flip your tablecloth. She strides into Wine Talks declaring, "You gotta remove the ego," and then proceeds to break down luxury wine culture not with snobbery, but with the kind of candor that leaves sommeliers and armchair tasters alike scrambling to rethink what it means to appreciate wine. Raised in the vine-studded valleys near Santiago, with the occasional detour into the Atacama desert—the driest place on earth—Fajara Zamorano grew up living the contrast between farmland "fairytale" and the arid edge of the world. No wonder she grew into someone who can call out ego in the most self-important industry on earth, then build a wine program for Monsieur Dior in Beverly Hills—where the stakes are as high as the heels. You're not just getting tips about which bottle to order at dinner. You're going to learn why the true luxury isn't price tags or Instagram clout, but the ability to see, anticipate, and dissolve the invisible barriers between guest and experience. Fajara Zamorano peels back the silk curtain on how fine dining works—how sommeliers read people, how guest notes are kept, and why even the "perfect" wine list is about much more than showing off. She'll have you questioning why we talk more about pesticides in strawberries than in the Cabernet you're sipping, and challenge the way the wine industry sacrifices humanity at the altar of mass marketing. She knows firsthand the battles of fighting for sustainable farming in a market obsessed with buzzwords, and still keeps her sense of humor when talking about Champagne, Armenian wines, or the eccentricities of the ladies who lunch on Rodeo Drive. If you've ever cringed at a wine list, been intimidated at a high-end restaurant, or wondered whether all this luxury talk means anything, this conversation is the antidote. Fajara Zamorano and Paul K will not only teach you how restaurants wield psychology like a decanter, but why the best experiences always put people before ego, and farming before flash. What you'll actually learn in this episode: 🍷 Why removing ego from wine service is the real secret sauce in luxury hospitality 🍷 How guest notes, pre-meal meetings, and staff preparation transform a restaurant experience 🍷 The truth about biodynamic, organic, and "natural" wines—beyond the hype 🍷 Why luxury is going quiet, not flashy: the invisible details that make a restaurant worth returning to 🍷 How to read a wine list, suss out the best bottle, and build rapport—without ever feeling out of place Dior: https://www.dior.com Monsieur Dior by Dominique Crenn: https://www.dior.com/en_us/stories/monsieur-dior-restaurant Gwen Restaurant: https://www.gwenla.com Alenia (Alinea): https://www.thealineagroup.com/alinea LVMH (Louis Vuitton Moët Hennessy): https://www.lvmh.com Château Smith Haut Lafitte: https://www.smith-haut-lafitte.com Cristal (Louis Roederer): https://www.louis-roederer.com/en/cristal Château de Beaucastel: https://www.beaucastel.com Ruinart: https://www.ruinart.com Turley Winery: https://www.turleywinecellars.com Club 33 (Disneyland, official info): https://disneyland.disney.go.com/dining/disneyland/club-33/ Tao Las Vegas: https://taogroup.com/venues/tao-asian-bistro-nightclub-las-vegas/ Wine Paris: https://www.vinexposium.com/en/wineparis-vinexpo Bouchon: https://www.thomaskeller.com/bouchon-bistro-yountville Southern Glazer's Wine & Spirits: https://www.southernglazers.com Wally's: https://www.wallywine.com
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