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Whatever Comes Next with Tom Osman

Getting to know the music makers out on the fringes

On Whatever Comes Next I explore the world of independent and underground music making. I talk with music makers, producers and label owners to hear their stories. I like music with a sense of mystery. I like surprises and unique stories... and noise... and weirdness... and darkness... and I want to learn more.

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October 7 · 54 min
Episode 161: Maciej Werk (Soundedit, Hedone)
This month, from the 23rd-27th of October, Łódź, Poland will host the 18th edition of Soundedit—an international festival “dedicated entirely to the art and technology of music production”. Combining workshops, pro-audio events, live shows and Q&As, this year’s event features appearances from Marc Almond (Soft Cell), producer Howie B (UK, Björk), Hugh Cornwell (The Stranglers) and Wolfgang Flür (Kraftwerk). In 2026 Soundedit also celebrates 50 years of punk rock, culminating with the festival’s regular Man with the Golden Ear award—to be presented to Iggy Pop, producer Bogdan Kondradcki and Polish punk musician Ziemowit Kosmowski (Brak, Rendez-Vous). Behind all of this is the festival’s founder—musician, producer and radio broadcaster Maciej Werk—and there’s far too much history and too many potential stories and anecdotes for us to fit into one hour-long conversation, but we’ll give it a go. We discuss the festival, its origins, this year’s lineup, Werk’s band Hedone, his story in the music world, tales of music fandom behind the Iron Curtain and plenty more. Visit Soundedit.pl for info, tickets and schedule. Hedone on YouTube. Thanks to Dom at 3nation For more stories from the musical underground you can read my column at New Noise Magazine: Mapping The Underground Check out my latest album ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Real Silence on Drama Recorder⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ My music on Ampwall Podcast artwork and logo: Get A Real Job Kid Intro music: “Detachment” by Tom Osman This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit tomosman.substack.com
September 30 · 1 hr 1 min
Episode 160: Moni Jitchell
Moni Jitchell is drummer and vocalist Grant Donaldson and guitarist David Scott and the music they make is a noisy, panic-inducing rock or post-hardcore that wouldn’t feel much out of place on 3 One G, amongst bands like The Locust, Arab On Radar and Guck (see WCN episode 94). The 23rd of October will see the duo release their latest album AWARE and by golly you can bet your bottom dollar that that’s exactly what we’re talking about in this here attached conversation—as well as the project’s origins, on-stage mishaps and funding for musicians in Scotland. Visit Moni Jitchell on bandcamp for pre-orders, to listen to singles, live dates and links. Thanks to Justine at Since Always Press. For more stories from the musical underground you can read my column at New Noise Magazine: Mapping The Underground Check out my latest album ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Real Silence on Drama Recorder⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ My music on Ampwall Podcast artwork and logo: Get A Real Job Kid Intro music: “Detachment” by Tom Osman This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit tomosman.substack.com
September 24 · 1 hr 6 min
Episode 159: Percy Howard and Richard Kazanjian (nûs)
In the mid 1990s Sacramento four-piece nûs released two albums of cinematic alternative rock (both notably being produced by Bill Laswell) in relatively quick succession, before just as quickly disappearing into the ether—from whence their music sounds like it came from. Almost 30 years later founding members Percy Howard, Stephen Sullivan and Richard Kazanjian (plus Stephen’s son Sean on drums) make a wonderful return with their exquisite new record shapes of longing (out October 15th on Third Star Records). So where have they been all this time? Well, singer Percy and bassist Richard are kind enough to join me and tell all. nûs will be having an album release party in Sacramento next month. Of the show the band writes: Saturday, October 24th, at Two Rivers Cider, will be an amazing evening, with food, drink, music, storytelling, and lovely night of connection! Join us as we celebrate the release of our latest album “Shapes of Longing”! Recorded at the incredible 25th Street Recording Studio in Oakland, CA. Engineered by the extraordinarily talented Gabriel Shepard. Mixed by 11 time Grammy winning Producer, Joe Chiccarelli (the White Stripes, the Strokes, U2, Beck, Elton John, the Killers, Morrissey, Weezer), and Mastered by 26 time Grammy winner Howie Weinberg (too many to list). Guest players include: John Ettinger on Violin, Jack Perla on Piano, David Boyce (Broun Fellinis) on Saxophone, Natalie Carols on Vocals, and Vince DiFiore (Cake) on Trumpet.Joining nûs to perform will be John Ettinger on violin, and Nathan Kingham on Keyboards, both incredible musicians and part of the nûs family.In addition to this being a FREE show, we’ll also be gifting CD’s to those who attend!7:00 start time. No opening act. A “night with nûs”. We’ll be playing the album in its entirety, as well as some legacy tracks, some reimagines, some requested, and maybe some future tracks! We’ll see you Saturday October 24th @ Two Rivers. As well as discussing shapes of longing, some stories from the band’s early days and the time between, we also touch on some of Percy’s past collaborations, including with one Eugene S. Robinson—former guest on this podcast, alongside BUÑUEL guitarist Xabier Iriondo on episode 82. Some of you will be aware that Eugene suffered a stroke back in July. His wife Kasia Robinson started a gofundme campaign to raise money to help fund Eugene’s ongoing rehabilitation. I’m sure any donation would be gratefully received. You can find that here. Thanks to Dan at Discipline PR for setting up the interview. Photo credit: Cassandra Foster. shapes of longing on bandcamp. For all things nûs visit nusartmedia.com. For more stories from the musical underground you can read my column at New Noise Magazine: Mapping The Underground Check out my latest album ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Real Silence on Drama Recorder⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ My music on Ampwall Podcast artwork and logo: Get A Real Job Kid Intro music: “Detachment” by Tom Osman This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit tomosman.substack.com
September 16 · 38 min
Episode 158: David Caress
If the name Dallas Seger is familiar to you, it might be through his role as owner/luthier of custom-guitar specialists Seger Guitars, based in Bangor Maine. You might also know Dallas from his rock-and-metal-straddling project Manic Abraxas (and you can check out my interview with Dallas and Justin Hamm discussing that project on episode 35 of this podcast). Azure, the debut album under Dallas’ new moniker David Caress sounds frankly nothing like Manic Abraxas. Certainly, there are guitars, but this is not some virtuosic, Yngwie Malmsteen noodle-fest. Azure is rather a cold, but beautiful, post-punk-inspired release with sonic terrain evoking bands like Depeche Mode, Joy Division and The Cure—on top of which Dallas (or David, if you prefer!) weaves his beguiling guitar melodies. Mostly performed and recorded by Dallas himself, Azure was mixed and mastered by Steve Austin (of Today Is The Day) in his Austin Enterprise studio and I was delighted to get the chance to hear all about the creation of the album, which will be released digitally on the 9th of October. Meanwhile please enjoy this conversation with David (I mean Dallas!). Thanks to Dave at Earsplit PR. Photos by Michael Hallahan. David Caress on bandcamp. Visit Seger Guitars Visit Austin Enterprises For more stories from the musical underground you can read my column at New Noise Magazine: Mapping The Underground Check out my latest album ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Real Silence on Drama Recorder⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ My music on Ampwall Podcast artwork and logo: Get A Real Job Kid Intro music: “Detachment” by Tom Osman This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit tomosman.substack.com
September 10 · 41 min
Episode 157: Jack Natz (EXP, Cop Shoot Cop)
EXP is the latest musical project of underground, rock n’ roll veteran Jack Natz (alongside his wife, visual artist and musician A.E. Csaky). Together, with a host of guests, friends and former collaborators (like Swans and former Cop Shoot Cop percussionist Phil Puleo) the pair last week released their debut, self-titled record on Reptilian Records. Recorded at the legendary BC Studio in Gowanus, Brooklyn, NYC with Martin Bisi (who I interviewed for episode 149 of Whatever Comes Next and for a forthcoming New Noise Magazine column feature); EXP is as quirky and off-kilter as you would hope. I was excited to talk to Jack Natz about the record and some of his long, fascinating history in music and beyond. So that’s what we did and here it is. I hope you will enjoy. Buy the album on Reptilian Records Listen on bandcamp Thanks to Dave at Earsplit PR For more stories from the musical underground you can read my new column at New Noise Magazine: Mapping The Underground Check out my latest album ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Real Silence on Drama Recorder⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ My music on Ampwall Podcast artwork and logo: Get A Real Job Kid Intro music: “Detachment” by Tom Osman This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit tomosman.substack.com
September 2 · 34 min
Episode 156: -ii- [Two Eyes]
This Friday, the 4th of September is World Sexual Health Day, a day that French electro-industrial act -ii- have consciously chosen to unveil their latest record Ars Erotica : Volume I—a record in which they, as they put it “are adopting a "sexpo" approach, viewing sexuality as a form of positive expression and an enriching experience, while liberating bodies and minds from the dictates of patriarchy and capitalism.” The French duo of Hélène Ruzic and Benjamin Racine joined me last year on Episode 102 of the podcast to discuss their previous record Apostles of the Flesh, on which the pair brought in various collaborators. On Ars Erotica : Volume I they revert back to working just the two of them and that is what the three of us are here to discuss. Photos: Benjamin Racine Buy Ars Erotica: Volume 1 on bandcamp Follow -ii- on Instagram For more stories from the musical underground you can read my new column at New Noise Magazine: Mapping The Underground Check out my latest album ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Real Silence on Drama Recorder⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ My music on Ampwall Podcast artwork and logo: Get A Real Job Kid Intro music: “Detachment” by Tom Osman This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit tomosman.substack.com
August 26 · 54 min
Episode 155: mr.phylzzz
Chicago, Illinois’ mr.phylzzz (that’s pronounced Mr. Flies, by the way) don’t play by your rules… or their rules, or anyone else’s rules really. Created ten years ago by guitarist and vocalist (and former comedian) Clinton Jacob as an outlet for wacky and humorous musical tomfoolery, mr.phylzzz will do as mr.phylzzz does. With Danny Sein on drums completing the lineup, mr.phylzzz release their latest album Fear the Lord on the 4th of September on legendary underground label Amphetamine Reptile. Join us as we discuss the forthcoming record, working with AmRep owner Tom Hazelmyer, crows, comedy, the duo’s forthcoming tour and peanut butter. Visit mr.phylzzz.com and check out all upcoming tour dates mr.phylzzz on bandcamp Photo: Madison Rease Thanks to Curran at The Chain For more stories from the musical underground you can read my new column at New Noise Magazine: Mapping The Underground Check out my latest album ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Real Silence on Drama Recorder⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ My music on Ampwall Podcast artwork and logo: Get A Real Job Kid Intro music: “Detachment” by Tom Osman This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit tomosman.substack.com
August 21 · 51 min
Episode 154: Michael “Kidd Funkadelic” Hampton
While the surreal, psychedelic funk-rock world of George Clinton and his main musical outlets Parliament and Funkadelic isn’t exactly a story of the DIY underground it’s certainly one outside of the mainstream—with an influence that stretches everywhere from hip-hop to Dutch blackened post-punk (see Amsterdam’s Ainsoph covering “Maggot Brain”). Guitarist Michael “Kidd Funkadelic” Hampton found himself a part of that world back in the mid-70s as a precocious and impressionable teenager. With Hampton recently releasing his latest mini-album King Kong (Sound Mind Records/ Lightyear/ Virgin Records/UMG) the guitarist joins me to discuss his latest recordings, tales of wild times recording and performing in the George Clinton universe, plus some of the other many musical projects he’s been involved with over the years with notable names such as Bootsy Collins, Afrika Bambaataa, Bill Laswell and Dean Ween. Album art: Philip Smith Thanks to Howard at Howlin Wuelf Buy and stream King Kong Michael Hampton on Instagram For more stories from the musical underground you can read my new column at New Noise Magazine: Mapping The Underground Check out my latest album ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Real Silence on Drama Recorder⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ My music on Ampwall Podcast artwork and logo: Get A Real Job Kid Intro music: “Detachment” by Tom Osman This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit tomosman.substack.com
August 12 · 49 min
Episode 153: Greg Wilkinson (Deathgrave)
When not operating Oakland, California’s Earhammer Studio (and working with bands like Necrot, High On Fire and Ulthar), Greg Wilkinson makes his own extreme music. These days Wilkinson’s multiple active bands include death-metal unit Static Abyss, legendary gore enthusiasts Autopsy (who Wilkinson joined the ranks of in recent years) and punk-grind-metal concoction Deathgrave—whose latest record Hell Is Evil comes out on Tankcrimes on the 21st of August. Wilkinson joins me to discuss the latest record, the band, his work behind the desk and his part in the Autopsy story. Band photo: Matthew Kadi Album art: Max Rain Thanks to Liz at Earsplit PR Buy Hell Is Evil from Tankcrimes and bandcamp Follow Deathgrave on Instagram Autopsy Static Abyss New Static Abyss album The Dying Hunt For more stories from the musical underground you can read my new column at New Noise Magazine: Mapping The Underground Check out my latest album ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Real Silence on Drama Recorder⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ My music on Ampwall Podcast artwork and logo: Get A Real Job Kid Intro music: “Detachment” by Tom Osman This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit tomosman.substack.com
August 5 · 1 hr 6 min
Episode 152: Mark Solotroff (Anatomy of Habit)
The musical world of Chicago’s Mark Solotroff goes back to the mid 80s with power-electronics group Intrinsic Action, includes the controlled chaos of BLOODYMINDED and finds us in the present moment with the doom-infused post-punk five-piece Anatomy of Habit releasing their fifth album Paired Sentinels—with Solotroff, as always, at the helm. It’s been a long and winding path for Anatomy of Habit since their 2008 origins, with lineup changes, a brief stint on Relapse Records and the global pandemic punching a whole in the band’s momentum (as with that of most who lived through it). But you can’t keep a good, dark spirit down. And so we are here to celebrate Paired Sentinels, discuss its creation, the striking artwork by Jeff Gibson, the history of the band—as well as some of Solotroff’s other projects and inspirations. Thanks to Liz at Earsplit PR Buy Paired Sentinels Anatomy of Habit Mark Solotroff For more stories from the musical underground you can read my new column at New Noise Magazine: Mapping The Underground Check out my latest album ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Real Silence on Drama Recorder⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ My music on Ampwall Podcast artwork and logo: Get A Real Job Kid Intro music: “Detachment” by Tom Osman This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit tomosman.substack.com
July 29 · 50 min
Episode 151: Dumb Waiter
It would be hard to think of a more suitable name for the latest record by Richmond, Virginian four-piece Dumb Waiter. Having formed back in 2012, Change (out this Friday) sees the band not only introduce vocals for the first time, but completely re-design their whole sound. Having spent several releases honing a complex meld of proggy, avant-garde metallic rock, the band decided they were done with musical complexity, instead wanting something more direct. The result of this transformation is Change—a record not only direct, but harsh, harrowing and anxiety inducing. Such a change, to quote the band from the title track of the latest album, doesn’t come easily. But as hard as that may have been, they did it and I’m here with vocalist/guitarist Nick Crider and bassist/vocalist Keith Paul to hear from them how and why it was time to totally reinvent the band. Album art by Taylor White Band photo Nicholas Crider Thanks to Monica at Speakeasy PR Check out Change on bandcamp Follow the band on Facebook and Instagram Check out Nick Crider’s visual work at Ickhouse For more stories from the musical underground you can read my new column at New Noise Magazine: Mapping The Underground Check out my latest album ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Real Silence on Drama Recorder⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ My music on Ampwall Podcast artwork and logo: Get A Real Job Kid Intro music: “Detachment” by Tom Osman This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit tomosman.substack.com
July 16 · 1 hr 5 min
Episode 150: Glenn Morrow
Although Glenn Morrow recently retired from running Bar/Non Records (the record label he founded 40 years ago), he’s still closely connected to the label. In fact Bar/Non Records, as well as celebrating its 40th anniversary, is about to release Morrow’s latest set of songs from his band Glenn Morrow’s Cry For Help, the playfully titled Our Final Album Vol. 1. So let’s dive into the history of the label and the history of Morrow the musician. Let’s discuss it all, from Morrow’s early bands A and The Individuals, to the birth of the record label and their early and fruitful work with enduringly unique They Might Be Giants. Well, ok, there’s not time in an hour to discuss everything, but there’s still time to talk Hoboken, Lou Reed and The Velvet Underground, Bob Bert and his new record Beach Bongo Bloodbath (see episode 143), The Swimming Pool Q’s and Anne Richmond Boston (see episode 133), Alex Chilton and more besides. Check out Glenn Morrow’s Cry For Help playing with Psych-O-Positive and Love, Burns at The Pet Shop in Jersey City on July 30th. For more more updates visit the band on facebook or Instagram. Check out Our Final Album Vol. 1 on bandcamp and Rhyme-Reason Thanks to Howard at Howlin’ Wuelf Media. For more stories from the musical underground you can read my new column at New Noise Magazine: Mapping The Underground Check out my latest album ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Real Silence on Drama Recorder⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ My music on Ampwall Podcast artwork and logo: Get A Real Job Kid Intro music: “Detachment” by Tom Osman This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit tomosman.substack.com
July 7 · 1 hr 23 min
Episode 149: Martin Bisi
American recording engineer Martin Bisi started BC Studio in Gowanus, Brooklyn, New York City (originally as OAO Studio) with Bill Laswell and Brian Eno 45 years ago. Having worked with names like Afrika Bambaataa and Lydia Lunch, he was involved in the nascent days of both hip-hop and no wave. As an engineer and producer Martin is greatly respected and having worked extensively with underground legends like Swans and Sonic Youth continues to work with cutting edge artists at BC Studio. That’s just one part of the story though, because Martin also has a long and fascinating history as a musician in his own right. This Friday sees the release of the latest Martin Bisi album, Dancing On The Power Lines, an album as bursting with creativity, activist spirit and humour as you could hope for from someone so dedicated to the musical underground for so many years. We discuss the latest album, his own musical evolution, Gowanus, some fascinating family history, collaborations and communities. Back in 2014 a documentary marking the first 30 years of BC Studio was released, Sound and Chaos: The Story of BC Studio. Stay tuned for an updated documentary short, marking 45 years of BC Studio, due later this year. Check out Dancing On The Power Lines and more Martin Bisi music, videos, links and other materials on his website here. Thanks to Dan at Discipline PR. Photo credit: Ego Sensation (thumbnail), Basti For more stories from the musical underground you can read my new column at New Noise Magazine: Mapping The Underground Check out my latest album ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Real Silence on Drama Recorder⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ My music on Ampwall Podcast artwork and logo: Get A Real Job Kid Intro music: “Detachment” by Tom Osman This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit tomosman.substack.com
June 30 · 1 hr 17 min
Episode 148: Tim Gotch (Sleepbomb)
The first time Tim Gotch joined me (alongside bandmate Charlie Hernandez on episode 51 of Whatever Comes Next) Sleepbomb were poised to release The Sleeping Dead—a musical companion to George Romero’s Night of the Living Dead. Eighteen months later, with the cinematic-doom band, having released their follow-up record, Songs in the Key of Conan (Koolarrow Records), an alternative score to the 1982 Arnold Schwarzenegger fantasy movie Conan the Barbarian, what better time for a catchup? Tim and I discuss the record, the movie, live shows, the environmental aspect of touring and Roadburn Festival (and when I’m going to get my act together and attend!). Thanks to Zoheb at Qabar PR. Listen to and buy Songs in the Key of Conan here. All things Sleepbomb here. For more stories from the musical underground you can read my new column at New Noise Magazine: Mapping The Underground Check out my latest album ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Real Silence on Drama Recorder⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ My music on Ampwall Podcast artwork and logo: Get A Real Job Kid Intro music: “Detachment” by Tom Osman This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit tomosman.substack.com
June 24 · 53 min
Episode 147: Dave Ramirez (Hypnolovewheel)
The initial lifespan of New York City indie-rock group Hypnolovewheel lasted only from 1986 to 1993, but in that relatively short time the band released five albums—starting with 1988’s Turn! Turn! Turn! and culminating with Altered States in 1993. While the band’s fine body of work has been hard to get hold of in the digital age, the band recently got the rights back to their catalogue and now, happily, Parallel Universe a career-spanning retrospective gets a full release (having previously been available on a limited vinyl run). And that’s what guitarist Dave Ramirez and I are here to discuss. Which is to say we’re going through the story of Hypnolovewheel. The formation, the releases, the tours, Yo La Tengo, Steve Albini, Kramer, Jesus Lizard and other names that pop up along the way. Sadly, drummer Peter Walsh is not around the be able to celebrate the release of Parallel Universe (having passed away in 2021), but for the remaining members of the band Dan Cuddy, Dave Ramirez and Stephen Hunking, the possibility of a few shows this year seem to be crystallising—you can follow the band on Instagram for updates. In the meantime, check out Parallel Universe in all its glory on bandcamp right here. Thanks to Howard at Howlin’ Wuelf Media. Hypnolovewheel on Instagram. For more stories from the musical underground you can read my new column at New Noise Magazine: Mapping The Underground Check out my latest album ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Real Silence on Drama Recorder⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ My music on Ampwall Podcast artwork and logo: Get A Real Job Kid Intro music: “Detachment” by Tom Osman This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit tomosman.substack.com
June 19 · 58 min
Episode 146 hackedepicciotto
West Berliner Alexander Hacke and American-born Danielle de Picciotto both have no shortage of their own artistic and musical credits stretching back to the 1980s. While their collaborative paths have intersected over several different projects over the years, hackedepicciotto is the most enduring—with the duo’s 10th album LICHTUNG to be released on the 10th of July via Mute. A beautiful, otherworldly record, layered with electronic and acoustic instrumentation (as well as the pair’s elegantly intertwining voices) there’s plenty about the duo’s latest release to dive into. There’s also time for us to touch on the pair’s experiences of Berlin before, during and after the fall of the wall, why they finally settled down after years of nomadic existence, how they take their music on the road and on stage, Danielle’s writing practice, and a few funny tales featuring Alexander’s time in Einstürzende Neubauten and former Bad Seed Mick Harvey—the three having all worked together in Crime & The City Solution. Photo by Mara von Kummer. Thank you to Howard at Howlin’ Wuelf Media. Order LICHTUNG and check out more from hackedepicciotto on bandcamp. hackedepicciotto website. See hackedepicciotto at silent green Kulturquartier, Gerichtstraße 35, 13347 Berlin, Germany on the 27th of June (info and tickets here) with more upcoming shows listed on the pair’s website. For more stories from the musical underground you can read my new column at New Noise Magazine: Mapping The Underground Check out my latest album ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Real Silence on Drama Recorder⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ My music on Ampwall Podcast artwork and logo: Get A Real Job Kid Intro music: “Detachment” by Tom Osman This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit tomosman.substack.com
June 17 · 1 hr 5 min
Episode 145: Joe Cannon (Resurrectionists)
Double EP (out this Friday on Seismic Wave Entertainment) brings together last year’s Anytime You Make A Place For Them and the previously-unreleased Ok, Let’s Play King (both on vinyl for the first time)—two EPs that showcase the distinctive charms of Milwaukee rock four-piece Resurrectionists. Joe Cannon has been leading the helm since the band’s formation in 2018 and we’re going to go through the history of the band and all its releases together. Well, we already have done, but you’re going to listen to it! I mean, you’ve come this far, so you might as well, eh. We’ll also discuss how Joe ended up heavily featuring in a documentary about the director of two of the band’s music videos, why the clock in Joe’s home never quite reaches midnight and take an unexpected diversion talking philosophy as we both attempt to dust off the mental cobwebs. What more could you possibly want? Answers on a postcard. Thank you to Conan (and Dan). Photo courtesy of Conan Neutron. Order Double EP and check out other Resurrectionists releases here. For more stories from the musical underground you can read my new column at New Noise Magazine: Mapping The Underground Check out my latest album ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Real Silence on Drama Recorder⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ My music on Ampwall Podcast artwork and logo: Get A Real Job Kid Intro music: “Detachment” by Tom Osman This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit tomosman.substack.com
June 12 · 1 hr 9 min
Episode 144: TOOMS
The members of Limerick, Ireland’s sludge metal band TOOMS have been making music together since before TOOMS was even a thing. Having started out together first as Gaia, bassist Anto Donnellan, drummer Kieran Grace and guitarist/vocalist Alex Hölzinger decided in 2017 the time had come to take the music into a new dimension and so TOOMS was born. Following their debut full-length album The Orb Offers Massive Signals in 2020 the existential black hole that was the global Covid pandemic was not strong enough to completely derail the band—with the trio having now released their follow up KARST on Fiadh, Cursed Monk and Road to Masochist. Visit the TOOMS bandcamp page for KARST and all things TOOMS. Follow the band on Instagram. See TOOMS live in Galway and Cellar bar on the 26th of June, supporting Bad Aul Dose with Skellig and Partholón — tickets here. For more stories from the musical underground you can read my new column at New Noise Magazine: Mapping The Underground Check out my latest album ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Real Silence on Drama Recorder⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ My music on Ampwall Podcast artwork and logo: Get A Real Job Kid Intro music: “Detachment” by Tom Osman This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit tomosman.substack.com
June 9 · 49 min
Episode 143: Bob Bert (Lydia Lunch, Sonic Youth, Pussy Galore)
Bob Bert has been involved in too many projects over the years to squeeze them all into a 40minute interview, but by golly I’ve done my best. We are first of all here to discuss Beach Bongo Bloodbath, his solo debut, out this Friday on Bar/None Records (in the year of the label’s 40th anniversary). On top of discussing this quirky delight of a record we find the time to talk about Lydia Lunch, John Spencer, Sonic Youth, Bewitched, Suicide (the band!!), Boredoms, playing CBGBs during the No Wave years, covering and interviewing Richard Hell, working with Steve Albini and Mark Kramer, interviewing Vincent Gallo for his 90s/early 2000s magazine BB Gun and, actually, even more. And if that doesn’t whet your appetite, then I guess you’re not a Bob Bert enthusiast. If you are, however, please do come this way. And by “this way” I mean watch/listen to this interview. Check out Beach Bongo Bloodbath on bandcamp. And if you’re in New York, you can get tickets for Bob Bert’s Album Release Bash at Bowery Palace on June 15th right here as if by magic. Thanks to Howard at Howlin’ Wuelf Media For more stories from the musical underground you can read my new column at New Noise Magazine: Mapping The Underground Check out my latest album ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Real Silence on Drama Recorder⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ My music on Ampwall Podcast artwork and logo: Get A Real Job Kid Intro music: “Detachment” by Tom Osman This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit tomosman.substack.com
June 4 · 1 hr 40 min
Episode 142: Johnny Iguana (The Claudettes)
Chicago Illinois’ The Claudettes have been through various transformations since their instrumental, two-piece origins of 2013’s Infernal Piano Plot…HATCHED! The most recent evolution has been the introduction of powerhouse singer Rachel Williams, who came in after the band parted ways with previous lead singer Berit Ulseth. Throughout every permutation punk-raised pianist Johnny Iguana has been leading the charge, and with the band’s latest album Garage Glamour (Pravda Records) released tomorrow Johnny joins me as we run through the history of The Claudettes, from their earliest beginnings right the way up to now. Along the way there’s time for us to talk about many musical influences and inspirations, from Bob Mould to Raymond Scott. We talk punk, we talk blues, we talk rock n’ roll and more. It’s all for the love of the music and if ever I felt like my poor, neglected guitar needs to be given some attention, it’s certainly the case after this conversation. Visit The Claudettes for releases, videos, upcoming shows and more. The Claudettes on bandcamp. Thanks to Howard at Howlin’ Wuelf Media Check out my latest album ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Real Silence on Drama Recorder⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ My music on Ampwall Podcast artwork and logo: Get A Real Job Kid Intro music: “Detachment” by Tom Osman This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit tomosman.substack.com

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