The Two Trees Podcast

The War of the Kings

Genesis 14 suddenly drops us into a world of kings, armies, tribute, rebellion, and war. But this strange battle is doing more than giving us ancient history. As the powers of Abram’s world begin to converge on the land, Genesis paints a picture of kingdoms devouring one another while Lot finds himself caught in the middle. In this episode, we step into the political and spiritual world of Abram to see why these kings matter, what the strange peoples they conquer along the way reveal, and how the Battle of the Kings sets the stage for a much bigger statement: no king, nation, god, or power can stop what Yahweh has determined to accomplish through Abram. Send us Fan Mail

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Abram in Egypt: When Fear Replaces Faith

In this episode, we explore Genesis 12–13 and the striking contrast between Abram’s self-serving choices and the character of the Lord, discovering that God’s faithfulness is not rooted in what He can get from us, but in who He is. Send us Fan Mail

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Choose This Day: The Story of Shechem

Shechem is more than a location on a map—it is a place where generations are confronted with the question of whom they will serve. From Abraham’s altar and Jacob’s rejection of foreign gods, to Joshua’s covenant and Abimelech’s disastrous kingship, the story of Shechem repeatedly returns to worship, allegiance, and kingship. In this episode, we explore the biblical context of Shechem and discover how one ancient place becomes a stage for the continuing choice between serving the Lord and following the gods and kingdoms of this world. Send us Fan Mail

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Abraham in Shechem

As Abram enters the land of Canaan, the biblical story begins to narrow its focus—from the sweeping story of the nations to one man faithfully listening to and obeying the voice of God. His first stop is Shechem, at the Oak of Moreh, a place already associated with pagan worship and supernatural power. Yet Abram does not surrender this place to the gods of the nations; he builds an altar and worships the Lord there. In this episode, we explore why Shechem matters, how Abram’s simple act of obedience begins a biblical pattern that echoes through the stories of Jacob, Joseph, Joshua, Israel’s kings, and ultimately Jesus, and why paying attention to places and names can reveal connections modern readers often miss. Send us Fan Mail

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The Calling of Abraham

In this episode, we explore the calling of Abraham and the remarkable promises God gives him in Genesis 12. Abram leaves the security of his old world to follow God into the unknown, and his obedience transforms wandering into a journey of fellowship and blessing. But God’s promise is bigger than Abraham himself: he will become a great nation, receive a great name, and—most importantly—become a blessing to the nations. From Babel to Abraham and ultimately to Jesus, we trace God’s plan to bring the nations back to himself through the faithfulness of those he calls. Send us Fan Mail

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The World of Abraham

What kind of person walks away from the greatest opportunity of his generation? As the ancient world collapsed and ambitious rulers raced to build new kingdoms, God called one man to leave it all behind. In this episode, we explore the historical world of Abraham, the rise of the Amorites, the fall of Ur, and the birth of Babylon to discover why Abraham's greatest act of faith wasn't conquering a city—it was refusing one. Together we'll see how God began a new people, not through political power or military might, but through faithful obedience, setting the stage for His plan to bless every nation on earth. Send us Fan Mail

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The Great Tower: What Babel Really Was

The Tower of Babel is far more than a story about human pride or the origin of different languages. In this episode, we step into the world of ancient Mesopotamia to explore what towers, cities, and ziggurats meant to the people who first heard Genesis. Together, we'll examine Nimrod's kingdom, the significance of Babylon, and humanity's attempt to create its own gateway to heaven on its own terms. By recovering the ancient context of Genesis 11, we discover that Babel isn't just about a tower—it is about two competing visions of the world: God's kingdom and humanity's relentless desire to build its own. Send us Fan Mail

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Seventy Nations, One Story

Why does Genesis include a long list of ancient nations, and why does the Bible keep returning to the number seventy? In this episode of The Two Trees Podcast, we explore the Table of Nations, Noah's tragic fall after the flood, and the symbolic world of biblical numbers. Far from being a dry genealogy, Genesis 10 presents a breathtaking vision of humanity united under one Creator, while the recurring pattern of seventy points toward God's sovereign claim over every nation on earth. By tracing this theme from Noah to the Feast of Booths, the seventy elders, Jesus' seventy-two disciples, and beyond, we'll see how Scripture tells one unified story of humanity's rebellion—and God's unrelenting plan to reclaim the nations for Himself. Send us Fan Mail

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But God remembered Noah

The story of Noah's flood is far more than a tale of judgment and an ark—it is one of the most carefully crafted narratives in all of Scripture. In this episode, we explore the remarkable literary design of the Flood as a chiasm, revealing that its turning point is not Noah's faithfulness but God's faithful remembrance. Along the way, we discover Noah as a new Adam, a priestly figure who points beyond himself to the One humanity truly needed. Ultimately, the Flood is not simply about surviving judgment but about God's plan to bring a renewed creation through Jesus Christ, the faithful and final Adam. Send us Fan Mail

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Invasion or Incarnation

The ancient world celebrated stories of gods, giants, and mighty heroes. Genesis tells the story differently. In this episode, we explore Genesis 6 and contrast divine invasion with the incarnation—the powers come to take, but God comes to give. Send us Fan Mail

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They worshipped the Creation instead of the Creator

Before we can understand the strange story of the sons of God and the Nephilim in Genesis 6, we need to learn how the Bible speaks to the ancient world around it. Pagan cultures told stories of gods, divine-human unions, and mighty heroes from the distant past—but Genesis tells the story differently. In this episode, we explore how the Bible confronts the pagan world not by saying, “None of this is real,” but by exposing an exchange of truth for a lie: creatures worshiped instead of the Creator, rebels followed instead of the King, and a world of violence remembered as an age of heroes. Send us Fan Mail

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What exactly is the book of Enoch?

What is the book of Enoch? Should we be afraid of it? Should we be adding it to our Bibles? Or is there another option? Let's take a look. If you're interested in the Book of Enoch, here are two helpful books. https://www.amazon.com/Watchers-Holy-Ones-Evangelical-Reading/dp/B0CD9BBBS8/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1QTBJMRWE5SIO&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.CUUG-XhF1-OcBHLI9ABGR1E5V5Nevv52FI_GePYnLZjtSHTaAuGG5jvbRvqefg62-a1tFb_EPwOQo1-ZdmMJwoXcT8qWSYTdUQ2Ko7QYDgaNmSLjTRC18if_p6Qe8O7hAaOzlcSWcg2I5tYIOt_VZnhy-54PawUpVXgNWffN7-7sKx8H6HhTj1CjNji5PpkePIKhUr6D-GTm5nt7oiR3uDOIGl6-9p4loOIDTdYZS_g.5oVhfAE-lk3KO73uOOYNNBgfgypCAWfnEJfKWCvnf1U&dib_tag=se&keywords=the+watchers+and+the+holy+ones&qid=1782780560&sprefix=watchers+and+holy+%2Caps%2C194&sr=8-1 https://www.amazon.com/Companion-Book-Enoch-Commentary-Watchers/dp/1948014300/ref=sr_1_1?crid=37GOM4I1PDDT4&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.UYmuvLbRmSbEAx5Gvt73EQpdHlk5i5g91aosU9wcXd8J4CeMqPWszFsZHZ34SBgwyFH1lIVDhKwxMahCXAAHaIoNcKwwtDaj-2OEHxdu6UWfXjArBSkG2lQO_Kp2Bcj7t5M_vX-XTf9NVlF-0MZgBX2MC5ytgO2IWfABjjVrTGnErKX65Qx_hruRdIzVWdkyacXCiznU-WYOYLtn2J9R_dt1EOVIJ7CYXSO6FudnGfs.V_rtF0nZ1FEof2ztDZux9gvHhuln-aKSPCEfNb46OFg&dib_tag=se&keywords=michael+heiser+enoch&qid=1782780633&sprefix=michael+heiser+enoch%2Caps%2C202&sr=8-1 Send us Fan Mail

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Thoughts on Genesis 5

What's going on with all these lists of names? Join us as we explore Genesis 5 and how it connects with the larger themes of scripture. Send us Fan Mail

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The Memories of the Nations

Why do cultures around the world preserve stories of a great flood, divine beings, giant heroes, and a forgotten age before history? In this episode of The Two Trees Podcast, we explore the ancient world behind Genesis and the shared cultural memory that flowed through the civilizations of the Fertile Crescent. Drawing on the concept of the "cultural river," we'll examine how Genesis engages the myths and traditions of the ancient world—not by borrowing from them, but by correcting them. Rather than celebrating the mighty figures of old as heroes, Scripture exposes a story of rebellion, spiritual corruption, and God's judgment. Join us as we consider a biblical alternative to modern theories of Atlantis, ancient aliens, and lost civilizations, and discover how Genesis reveals what was really happening behind the stories the nations remembered. Send us Fan Mail

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The story is in the names.

In this episode, we explore the meaning in the genealogy of Genesis 4, and how Scripture traces two competing ways of being human: one built on self-preservation, power, and vengeance, and another built on forgiveness, service, and self-giving love. Most surprisingly, we discover that when Jesus tells Peter to forgive “seventy-seven times,” He is answering the song of Lamech with a better song—one that calls humanity back to bearing the image of God. Send us Fan Mail

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Cains Children

In this episode of the Two Trees Podcast, we explore humanity’s calling to image God through cultivation, beauty, and stewardship, while tracing how exile distorts even mankind’s greatest gifts. From Cain’s city to Lamech’s song of violence, this conversation examines the tension between creative genius and spiritual rebellion—and the hope that God will one day restore creation and teach humanity to turn swords into plowshares. Send us Fan Mail

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Cains City

Martin & Jon explore the meaning behind Cain’s city east of Eden and what it reveals about humanity’s attempt to image God outside of the garden. Rather than treating cities merely as population centers, the ancient world saw them as places of protection, power, and spiritual authority. Tracing the story from Eden to Revelation, this episode examines how Cain rejects God’s provision and builds an “Eden of his own making,” establishing a pattern that echoes throughout Scripture—from Babel and Nineveh to the redeemed city of New Jerusalem. Along the way, we ask what it means to trust in human power rather than God’s presence, and how God ultimately redeems even the symbol of the city itself Send us Fan Mail

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The Mark of Cain

In this episode of The Two Trees Podcast, we explore the story of Cain in Genesis 4, asking what it means to bear God’s image outside the Garden—and what happens when that calling is rejected. Tracing Cain’s motives, his refusal to master sin, and his failure as both priest and brother, we examine how the ground itself becomes a witness to his rebellion and how exile shapes the biblical theme of wandering “east of Eden.” Yet even in judgment, God’s unexpected grace appears in the mysterious “mark of Cain,” not as punishment but protection. This episode challenges us to look beyond the mark itself and wrestle with the deeper question at the heart of the story: why does Cain choose violence, and why does God extend mercy to the undeserving? Send us Fan Mail

Story time with Pastor Jon

It's a dark and stormy night here in Ohio, and Martin and Jon use the opportunity to read and discuss some of Jon's book, "The Way of Eden. https://www.amazon.com/Way-Eden-Resisting-Darkness/dp/B0G9HLLMZ6/ref=sr_1_2?crid=WL0H54WXN4V8&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.Q1rmWAhwAQcqjZIU9FL5-NXnPumP_Nj34IthV0lQFCcIBGlFZ8lcu4MURp8ZC4dqBQgep-vfArcV9cCxTpyaL9M1Rq7lm5a48dSQzWQ9TkPuhpkapGFxfRgRIJsftCDyqcFOEs6rn3u-PaxZHD9aD7DpY9wWTzTG9yGWNhnxJpK9Tv4PcR5SWNgVsuXGmCpdGwMiEmERZUAfJRamaDBC6e3BmZkhXD0l6WWsuDFDJd4.oe3iFPTu3Cw6WfBLi9N98o39IS6o6W2sePjqOj9GM40&dib_tag=se&keywords=the+way+of+eden&qid=1777330814&sbo=RZvfv%2F%2FHxDF%2BO5021pAnSA%3D%3D&sprefix=%2Caps%2C378&sr=8-2 Send us Fan Mail

Cains Sacrifice

In this episode of The Two Trees Podcast, we step into the haunting story of Cain and Abel in Book of Genesis 4:1–16 and explore what lies beneath the surface of the first recorded act of worship—and the first act of violence. Why are these brothers bringing offerings in the first place, and what makes Abel’s sacrifice acceptable while Cain’s is rejected? As we trace the role of Eve as life-giver and namer, we begin to see early echoes of civilization, vocation, and identity taking shape east of Eden. But at the center of the story is a divine confrontation: God’s warning that “sin is crouching at the door,” inviting Cain—and us—into a deeper question of what it means to rule or be ruled. Is humanity destined to be a victim or a predator? This episode invites you to wrestle with the tension between calling and corruption, and to consider how the story of Cain is not just about one man’s failure, but a mirror held up to life in exile. Send us Fan Mail