The Slippery

Nancy Moscatiello and Scott Eldridge

THE SLIPPERY

The con artists think they're untouchable. The fraudsters believe their schemes are foolproof. The scammers assume they'll never be caught. They're all dead wrong.

Welcome to The Slippery, where the most audacious scammers, mind-bending scandals, and elaborate schemes meet their match. Hosted by Nancy Moscatiello and Scott Eldridge—the investigative duo behind the explosive hit "Scamanda" podcast and acclaimed documentary series—this true crime podcast takes you inside the twisted minds of master manipulators and the devastating aftermath they leave behind.

Every case gets the deep-dive treatment across two episodes that reveal every angle of deception:

THE SLIPPERY: Nancy and Scott dissect each case from first lie to final reckoning, with one host pitching why this story deserves the Hollywood treatment—documentary series, limited series, or feature film.

THE SLIPPERY DEBRIEF: Raw, unscripted conversations with special guests who lived these schemes firsthand—victims, investigators, journalists, and insiders sharing revelations that never made official reports.

From elaborate Ponzi schemes to fake cancer fundraisers, from romance scams to corporate fraud, The Slippery exposes the schemes that prove truth is more shocking than any fiction Hollywood could create.

Because when it comes to deception, everyone thinks they're too smart to fall for it. Until they do.

New episodes every week. Subscribe now and prepare to question everything you thought you knew about trust, manipulation, and the art of the con.

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Thursday · 1 hr 2 min
EP 38 | DEBRIEF: Welcome to Sweetie Pies: Fame, Greed, and a Fatal Scheme
In this exclusive debrief episode of The Slippery, Scott and Nancy welcome defense attorney Gloria Rodriguez, who represented Tim Norman during his high-profile, federal, murder-for-hire trial. While the public and prosecutors viewed Norman as the mastermind behind his nephew's murder, Rodriguez breaks down the defense’s perspective, why she firmly maintains her client's innocence, and the crucial turning points in the courtroom that ultimately tipped the scales toward a guilty verdict. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
September 14 · 41 min
EP 37 | Welcome to Sweetie Pies: Fame, Greed, and a Fatal Scheme
In this episode, The Slippery examines the dark reality behind Welcome to Sweetie Pies, the hit OWN reality show where Tim Norman reigned as a central star. Charismatic and larger-than-life, Norman positioned himself as an aspiring restaurant mogul, musician, and talent manager trying to scale his family’s soul food empire. But as the cameras rolled, a desperate greed took hold—leading Norman to orchestrate a murder for hire scheme that no one saw coming, targeting his own 21-year-old nephew, Andre. A complex, multi-year investigation involving federal agencies—including the FBI, ATF, and local police departments untangled a sprawling web of burner phones, cell tower ping records, fraudulent insurance filings, and paid accomplices across multiple states. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
August 31 · 35 min
The Slippery UPDATES Edition
Scott and Nancy reveal multiple updates on Slippery stories they've covered so far. They also take the audience behind the scenes to reveal what's being worked on...including a new cancer scammer series debuting this Fall. The team also takes a look inside the mailbag to address some of the comments the audience has delivered about the show Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
August 27 · 56 min
EP 36 | DEBRIEF: The Golden Years Ghouls
Just when you thought the story of Helen Golay and Olga Rutterschmidt couldn't get any darker, the paper trail leads even deeper into the shadows. In this debrief, we uncover the mysterious story of another elderly man who stayed in Helen’s apartment—only for Helen and her daughter to wind up in his will and pocket $280,000 in home equity cash before his sudden death. Plus, Scott and Nancy pit a brand-new slate of outrageous insurance scam pitches against each other to see if there’s enough juice for a whole new TV series. From desperate husbands and killer wives to downright evil dads, we’re riding a shocking wave of greed, betrayal, and deadly motives. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
August 24 · 1 hr 1 min
EP 35 | The Golden Years Ghouls
To their neighbors in Los Angeles, Olga Rutterschmidt and Helen Golay seemed like two kindly elderly women devoted to helping the city’s unhoused population. But behind their acts of charity lay a cold-blooded financial enterprise—and a trail of mysterious alleyway deaths initial law enforcement brushed off as routine hit-and-runs. For years, the pair operated beneath suspicion, taking meticulous measures to cover their tracks and stay one step ahead of the law. But when a persistent detective overheard a passing comment about a duplicate case file, a massive joint task force began pulling at the threads of their facade. What followed was a tense, high-stakes battle of wits between seasoned investigators, insurance fraud agents, and two master manipulators who refused to crack. This week, we examine the subtle red flags, the undercover sting operation, and the tiny investigative slip-up that finally unraveled an unbelievable web of deceit. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
August 20 · 42 min
EP 34 | DEBRIEF: The Relentless Hustle of Lyin' Lacy Johnson
Retired LA Sheriff’s Detective Geoff Elliott returns to the show to take us inside the high-stakes sting that finally brought down serial con artist Lacy Johnson. In this gripping debrief, Detective Elliott breaks down the painstaking investigation and reveals the exact blueprint he used to bait, trap, and place Lacy under arrest. He offers an unvarnished look at the manipulative playbooks serial fraudsters use to exploit trust, detailing not just the financial wreckage, but the profound emotional damage predators like Lacy leave in their wake. It is a sobering masterclass on the real cost of deception and the relentless work required to bring a predator to justice. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
August 17 · 46 min
EP 33 | The Relentless Hustle of Lyin' Lacy Johnson
In this episode of The Slippery, we untangle the astonishingly intricate web of scams spun by Lacy Johnson, a con artist whose deception knew no boundaries.From faking a life-threatening cancer diagnosis to exploiting patriotism through a bogus charity designed to support the troops, Lacy weaponized empathy for personal gain. But her audacity didn’t stop at financial fraud; she crossed dangerous lines, even breaking into her own employer's home.While her professional and public scams shocked communities, Lacy reserved her most calculated and devastating takedowns for her personal relationships. We expose how she systematically targeted her romantic partners, treating them not as companions, but as human ATM machines to fund her lifestyle. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
August 13 · 58 min
EP 32 | DEBRIEF: Chiefsaholic: Super Fan Super Criminal
The wild story of Xaviar Babudar—better known to Chiefs Kingdom as “Chiefsaholic”—takes another crazy turn. In this episode of The Slippery Debrief, we continue our deep dive into the viral superfan-turned-serial bank robber, but this time from the perspective of the man left holding the bag. Bail bondsman Michael Lloyd joins us to pull back the curtain on why he took a chance on Xaviar, what really went down when Babudar cut his ankle monitor and went on the run, and how a $80,000 bond turned into an intense, high-stakes hunt. But it’s not just a story of betrayal—Michael shares surprisingly candid insights into Xaviar’s complex family life, nomadic upbringing, and why, despite everything, he still harbors empathy for the man behind the mask. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
August 10 · 58 min
EP 31 | Chiefsaholic: Super Fan Super Criminal
In the stands at Arrowhead Stadium, he was a legend...a hulking, six-foot gray wolf, covered in fur and cheering on the Kansas City Chiefs with relentless energy. To millions of fans, he was "Chiefsaholic"—a recognizable icon of the Kingdom. But behind the mask lay a man living a life as dark as it was brazen. Xaviar Babudar was more than just a superfan; he was a high-stakes gambler and a wanted man. While he lived large, traveling from city to city and placing massive wagers on his beloved team, he was hiding a secret: a string of violent bank robberies stretching across the Midwest. Driven by the pressures of providing for his homeless family and fueled by an addiction to both football and chaos, Babudar was jumping teller counters at gunpoint to keep his fantasy alive. In this episode of The Slippery, we pull back the mask on one of the most bizarre true-crime schemes in sports history. Join us as we dig into the police reports, the financial paper trails, and the extraordinary double life of the superfan who robbed his way to the Super Bowl. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
August 6 · 1 hr 16 min
EP 30 | DEBRIEF: The Hot Yoga Cult of Bikram Choudhury
For decades, Bikram Choudhury built a hot yoga empire fueled by devotion, strict control, and absolute loyalty. Behind the scenes, that authority shielded him from accountability. In this episode of The Slippery Debrief, we sit down with Larissa Anderson, who courageously opens up about her time under Bikram’s influence—sharing how years of psychological manipulation, isolation, and brainwashing culminated in her sexual assault. Joining the conversation is attorney Mary Shea, who represented multiple victims of Bikram. She exposes how Bikram managed to evade criminal prosecution despite numerous credible allegations, shedding light on the questionable police work, institutional oversights, and systemic flaws that allowed him to slip through the legal cracks. Together with these two determined.women, we untangle the nexus of cultish influence, trauma, and the legal barriers that survivors face when seeking justice against powerful figures Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
August 3 · 47 min
EP 29 | The Hot Yoga Cult of Bikram Choudhury
He built a global empire on a 105-degree room, 26 poses, and an endless stream of outrageous, fabricated lies. In this episode of The Slippery, we turn up the heat on Bikram Choudhury—the ultimate charismatic megalomaniac who turned the world of wellness into a personal piggy bank and a toxic, cult-like empire. We dive into the dangerous myth of Bikram: from his carefully engineered, biography to his abusive teaching tactics, extreme sleep deprivation, and obsession with being worshiped by his staff and devoted followers. Behind the celebrity endorsements, multi-million-dollar fortune, and garage full of luxury carss was a sinister reality: widespread allegations of sexual assault, systemic abuse, and a culture of silence designed to protect the guru at all costs. Find out why he's on the run from the U.S. with an $8 million bounty on his head. It’s a story of greed, unchecked narcissism, fraud, and the courageous women who brought down a tyrant. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
July 30 · 41 min
EP 28 | DEBRIEF: The Plot To Erase Doris
For nearly twenty years, the family of Doris Worrell has been trapped in a state of suspended grief, waiting for an answer that felt perpetually out of reach. In this deeply candid episode of The Slippery Debrief, we sit down with Doris’s big sister, LeAnn, for an intimate look at the woman behind the headlines. LeAnn walks us through the heartbreaking timeline of her sister’s life—from her days as a college sweetheart to the brutal reality of the murder that tore her family apart. We discuss the complexities of the investigation, the betrayal of infidelity, and the anguish of watching a suspected killer walk free for two decades. This isn’t just a true crime recap; it’s a sister’s journey toward truth. Join us for an emotional, honest, and unforgettable conversation. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
July 27 · 49 min
EP 27 | The Plot To Erase Doris
In this episode of The Slippery, Scott and Nancy revisit a haunting case they began investigating a decade ago—one they feared might never be solved. In September of 2006, Doris Worrell was brutally gunned down at her husband John's family business while he was out running a routine errand. The only witness? A young girl named Paola, who had been living with the family for years. Shortly after the tragedy, the timeline takes a bizarre turn. John uproots his life, relocating to Costa Rica to start anew, where he is eventually joined by Paola under entirely different circumstances. Years later, after a bitter falling out, secrets finally begin to unravel. Following a dramatic arrest in May of 2025, Scott and Nancy dive back into the dark web of a suspected murder-for-hire scheme. Will a decade of searching finally lead to justice, or will the truth remain slippery? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
July 16 · 54 min
EP 26 | DEBRIEF: Marilyn Mulero Takes The Fall
When the prison gates finally swing open after 27 years, the headline reads "Justice." But what happens when the cameras turn off, the legal teams pack up, and you’re left sitting with the wreckage of nearly three stolen decades? This week on an incredibly special debrief episode of Slippery, we aren’t just talking about the case—we are talking to the woman who lived it. Marilyn Mulero joins us to pull back the curtain on the profound, lingering trauma of being framed by Detective Reynaldo Guevara. Marilyn walks us through the raw psychological horror of that 1992 interrogation room, the devastating moment she realized she was being sent to death row for a crime she didn't commit, and what it does to a person's mind to wait for an execution that should never have been on the table. But the nightmare didn't end when her conviction was vacated. Marilyn opens up about the invisible scars of wrongful conviction—the deep, multi-generational trauma inflicted on her children and her family, the years of missed milestones that can never be replaced, and the exhausting, daily work of trying to repair those fractured bonds. It is an unforgettable, intimate conversation about survival, systemic cruelty, and her fierce new mission to help other incarcerated women pick up the pieces. This isn't just a legal breakdown. This is a story about what it takes to rebuild a life from scratch. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
July 13 · 56 min
EP 25 | Marilyn Mulero Takes The Fall
Imagine sitting in an interrogation room, terrified, exhausted, and completely isolated. Under intense pressure from a notoriously aggressive detective, you sign a piece of paper just to make the nightmare stop—not realizing you’ve just signed your own death warrant. This week on Slippery, we break down the harrowing case of Marilyn Mulero. In 1992, a horrific gang-related double murder in Chicago's Humboldt Park set off a rush for justice. Enter Detective Reynaldo Guevara, a cop whose track record for "solving" cases has since come under devastating scrutiny. Marilyn was sent straight to death row based almost entirely on a coerced confession for a crime she didn't commit. How does a system designed to protect the innocent end up stealing nearly three decades of a woman’s life? We track Marilyn’s grueling, 27-year fight for survival from inside a maximum-security cell, the stunning legal breakthrough that finally changed everything, and her new chapter on the outside. Plus, learn the shocking truth about what happened to the man with a badge who stole her freedom? Grab your headphones. This one will make your blood boil. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
July 9 · 1 hr 22 min
EP 24 | DEBRIEF: Sherri Papini's Pathetic Pivot
In this gripping episode we pull back the curtain on one of the most baffling and notorious hoaxes in recent history: the disappearance of Sherri Papini. We are joined by former FBI Agent Denise Farmer and Melissa Morolla, formerly of the FBI’s legendary Behavioral Analysis Unit (BAU) who both worked on the notorious case. Farmer gives us an exclusive, insider look at what was really happening behind the scenes during the years-long federal investigation. From the initial frantic search to the growing inconsistencies that ultimately cracked the case wide open. Agent Farmer reveals the hidden turning points that the public never saw during her investigation, while Morolla breaks down the psychological anatomy of the deception. Morolla explains the complex motivations behind the fabrication and provides a fascinating look into the mind of a master manipulator, explaining exactly how and why Sherri continues to alter her narrative to this day. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
July 6 · 57 min
EP 23 | Sherri Papini's Pathetic Pivot
She’s back—and she’s rewriting history. In this edition of The Slippery, Nancy breaks down the latest twist in one of the most infamous true crime hoaxes of the decade. Sherri Papini has released a new book and is hitting the podcast circuit with a shocking new narrative. Despite pleading guilty in federal court to lying to police and serving time in prison, Sherri now claims she really was kidnapped all along. Her defense? She was merely trying to "breadcrumb" the real details of her abduction to authorities who just didn't get it. But Nancy isn’t buying the fiction. Armed with the original receipts, court facts, and investigative timelines, Nancy dismantles Papini's latest media tour. Plus, Nancy issues a direct challenge: there is one specific person who can clear everything up once and for all—and it’s time for them to step forward. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
July 2 · 57 min
EP 22 | DEBRIEF: The Teenage Spy & His Crude Deception
The cover story was massive: recruited by the CIA at 16, running international security in his 20s, and wielding enough shadow-government influence to commandeer half of a Dutch oil empire. Gaurav Srivastava played the part of a phantom operative perfectly—but how does his story hold up under actual intelligence scrutiny? In this DEBRIEF, Nancy and Scott are talking to former real-life CIA officer Lindsay Moran to separate spy fiction from cold reality. What does it actually look like to be recruited by the Agency? How do real operatives handle their business? And where exactly does Srivastava’s multi-million-dollar bluff begin to crack? Lindsay breaks down the tradecraft and dissects the psychological profile of a high-level fabricator. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
June 29 · 54 min
EP 21 | The Teenage Spy & His Crude Deception
How does a man convince the global elite that he was recruited by the CIA at just 16 years old? Enter Gaurav Srivastava. Armed with an elaborate, high-level intelligence cover story, Srivastava moved through the world of international commerce like a ghost operative. He built a private security firm straight out of a Hollywood thriller, but his ultimate play wasn't on a battlefield—it was in the oil trade. This week, we untangle the jaw-dropping web of an international man of mystery who rubbed elbows with politicians, received congratulations from John Legend and shook the hand of the President before gaining the trust of a Dutch oil trader and walking away with a fortune. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
June 25 · 58 min
EP 20 | DEBRIEF: Mad Cow & The Furniture King
When furniture tycoon Jose Lantigua allegedly died of "Mad Cow Disease" in Venezuela, he left behind a grieving family, a shadowy CIA past, and a massive $8 million paper trail. While his grieving widow prepared to collect, one insurance investigator smelled a rat. In this special debrief episode, we sit down with Richard Marquez, the elite investigator hired to find out if Lantigua was truly dead or just remarkably creative. Marquez takes us behind the scenes of his high-stakes international manhunt, revealing how his team navigated the dangerous streets of Venezuela to track down the very doctor and crematorium workers who signed off on the fraud. Tune in for an inside look at how a master class in corporate deception was completely dismantled by a team that refused to believe in ghosts. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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