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The Ledger Podcast

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Ledger is the gold standard of security in the crypto space. Our signers are essential for anyone wanting to take control of their digital value. At the heart of this ecosystem, Ledger connects you with everything in the digital assets space, providing access to services and freedom from compromise on security, ownership or user experience. On 'The Ledger Podcast', we have conversations with some of the most interesting thought leaders in crypto, cybersecurity and culture to discuss the journey so far and what the future might hold. Follow and subscribe for insights and discussions you won't find anywhere else.

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  • September 14 · 1 hr 10 min

    AI Made Security Flaws Cheap to Find. What Now?

    Security used to depend on flaws being expensive to find. AI made them cheap. High-severity vulnerabilities flagged in 2026 are already six times the previous four-year average, and breaches are trending up on a multi-year horizon. Ledger CTO Charles Guillemet sits down with Mo El-Sayed, Head of Brand Development, on what that does to the threat model, why secure hardware holds where connected software folds, and the ethics of finding bugs at machine speed. They close on where this goes next, and what people can do about it now rather than in five years. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

  • August 25 · 19 min

    How AI Agents Get Paid on Solana Without Touching Private Keys

    Agents can now complete tasks, write code and get paid on Solana. The part that shouldn't change: humans retaining final control over the assets. Ian Rogers, Chief Human Agency Officer at Ledger, sits down with Pavel, co-founder of AgenC — a marketplace where agents claim jobs and submit results. The design starts from one assumption: the host machine is compromised. Agents build and drive transaction flows, but never touch private keys. The Ledger device acts as a supervised signer, not a blind one, connected through Ledger's Device Management Kit. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

  • June 25 · 1 hr 4 min

    How to Fix the Security Flaw Built Into Every AI Agent | The Ledger Podcast ft. Shisa.ai

    AI agents are capable and easily fooled at the same time. They can read your data, act on your behalf, and reach the outside world. Because LLMs don't fundamentally separate data from instructions, anything they read can be treated as a command. In this episode of The Ledger Podcast, Leonard Lin, CTO of Shisa.ai, in conversation with Ledger Chief Human Agency Officer Ian Rogers, talks about building AI agents you can trust. Leonard's framework, Shisa D, inverts the usual control plane so the AI proposes and the system decides. Secrets are removed from the model, tool calls are reviewed by a separate layer, and the highest-risk actions route to a Ledger signer, where you see the real intent in plain text and approve it with a physical tap. Plus a live demo of Shisa D routing an action to a Ledger signer for hardware approval. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

  • June 19 · 36 min

    Inside DeFi Vaults: Staying in Control of Your Assets

    What is a DeFi vault, and how do you use one without handing over control of your money? In this episode of The Ledger Podcast, Ledger’s EVP of Consumer Services JF Rochet sits down with Adrian, co-founder of Steakhouse Financial, a leading on-chain asset manager specializing in institutional-grade DeFi vaults, to break it down from the basics up. The takeaway: do your own research, take it seriously, and when you're ready, sign with a Ledger signer. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

  • February 13 · 38 min

    AI Agent With a Wallet. What Could Go Wrong?

    In this episode of the Ledger Podcast, the team dives into the rise of the “agentic world” — a future where AI agents act on your behalf to move funds, sign transactions, and manage digital identity. But as agents become more autonomous, one critical question emerges: how do you trust them with your secrets, identity, and wealth? Fresh from the Circle USDC hackathon, Ledger engineers share how they built a secure bridge between AI automation and hardware-backed security using Moltbook — a platform designed specifically for agent interactions. Their solution enables AI agents to create transaction “intents” that require human approval on a Ledger device, keeping private keys protected inside the secure element. The episode also unpacks a real-world lesson in AI risk: when the OpenClaw agent over-optimized for hackathon votes, it spiraled into a cascade of failed jobs after hitting rate limits — proving exactly why “human in the loop” guardrails are essential for agentic commerce. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

  • January 9 · 39 min

    From SWIFT to Stablecoins: The New Operating System for the World’s Economy

    In this episode of the Ledger Podcast, Jean-François Rochet (EVP of Consumer Services) sat down with Shah Ramezani, CEO and Founder of Noah, to explore how stablecoins are connecting the traditional finance world with crypto and why payments are the key to real adoption. Shah explains why stablecoins quietly proved their value during the market downturn, how people were already using them to move money, and what’s been missing to make on-chain and fiat payments work seamlessly together. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

  • Dec 19, 2025 · 33 min

    Building Trust in Crypto: Ilia Vulkov on Security, Regulation & Payments Rails

    In this episode of the Ledger Podcast, Sebastian Badault (EVP, Ledger Enterprise) sits down with Ilya Vulkov, Co-Founder & CEO of Youhodler, to unpack a question every serious builder faces: how do you earn trust in digital assets? Ilya explains that crypto isn’t a “revolution," it’s an evolution, and what that means in practice: borrowing proven financial controls, governance, and risk frameworks, then bringing them on-chain with better speed and usability. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

  • Dec 5, 2025 · 54 min

    Crypto's Privacy Problem: Why you don't have privacy!

    What happens to crypto when everything on-chain becomes encrypted by default? In this episode of the Ledger Podcast, host Kyle O’Brien (COS @ Zama) sits down with Rand Hindi (Founder & CEO @ Zama) and Charles Guillemet (CTO @ Ledger) to dive deep into privacy, fully homomorphic encryption (FHE), hardware security, and why institutional adoption is making onchain confidentiality a must-have, not a nice-to-have. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

  • Nov 21, 2025 · 35 min

    Securing Value: An Enterprise Perspective on the Ownership Economy

    In this episode of The Ledger Podcast, we dive deep into the emerging frontier of the ownership economy, where consumers become stakeholders, loyalty becomes liquid, and brands are rebuilt from the bottom up. Our EVP of Ledger Enterprise, Sebastian Badault sat down with Ovie Faruq ,co-founder and CEO of REKT Brands, live from Ledger Op3n at 106 in Paris. From crypto-native companies to the shifting power dynamics of brand building, Ovie unpacks why traditional loyalty is broken, how brand coins reshape the value exchange, and why the next generation of global brands will be built with their communities, not above them. They discuss: Why crypto-native builders create differently How brand coins reward early supporters Why legacy giants like Pepsi & P&G can’t simply “copy” crypto-native brands The emotional and financial value of community-owned brands What happens when consumers become co-creators Enjoy the episode! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

  • Nov 14, 2025 · 40 min

    Defense Wins Championships, with Matt Giteau and Drew Mitchell

    On this special episode of the Ledger Podcast, recorded live at Ledger Op3n in Paris, Head of Brand Development Mo EL-SAYED sits down with two Australian Rugby legends, Matt Giteau and Drew Mitchell (co-hosts of Kick Offs and Kick Ons and our new Australian Ambassadors). This episode is all about value, risk, and rewriting the rules. Matt and Drew share the story of their game-changing move to France in 2011—a move that fundamentally altered the landscape of Australian rugby and led to the creation of the famous Giteau Law. They discuss how that spirit of taking control, betting on yourself, and proving your value on your own terms mirrors the ethos of digital ownership. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

  • Nov 11, 2025 · 19 min

    Future of Blockchain: Cryptography Facing Quantum and AI

    At Ledger Op3n 2025, our CTO Charles Guillemet sat down with Peter McCormack, Matthew Green, and Ian Miers to discuss how the blockchain space is preparing for the possibility of quantum computing. Will quantum computing be achieved in our lifetimes? What would it mean for blockchain? And how is the ecosystem working to create solutions? Listen to find out! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

  • Nov 4, 2025 · 23 min

    The Unseen Game: Building Resilience in Sport and Security

    We hosted sports legends Bruce Bowen, Matt Giteau, Drew Mitchell, and health & wellness consultant JoeHolder at Ledger Op3n 2025! They chatted with our EVP of Communications Ariel Wengroff about the crossover between sports and security - namely, building resilience. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

  • Oct 31, 2025 · 40 min

    Pixels and Personality: A Conversation with Susan Kare

    We were beyond honoured to be able to collaborate with the legendary graphic designer Susan Kare on the Ledger Nano Gen5 badges. Susan joined us in Paris for Ledger Op3n to talk about expression through creativity, her career journey and the process of developing exclusive art for Ledger. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

  • Oct 30, 2025 · 18 min

    The Design of Desire, with Tony Fadell and Susan Kare

    What do the iPod, the original Mac icons, and the Ledger Nano Gen5 have in common? Design legends. We hosted Tony Fadell and Susan Kare at Ledger Op3n 2025 to talk about their "Design of Desire" philosophy, making digital ownership human, and their work on the new Ledger Nano Gen5. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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