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With great power, comes great scrutiny. Every Tuesday and Friday, journalist Kara Swisher and NYU Professor Scott Galloway offer sharp, unfiltered insights into the biggest stories in tech, business, and politics. They make bold predictions, pick winners and losers, and bicker and banter like no one else. From New York Magazine and the Vox Media Podcast Network.


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  • #476
    Jan 23, 2024 · 1 hr 15 min

    DeSantis Drops Out, Stock Market Soars, and Guest Aileen Lee

    Kara and Scott discuss Ron DeSantis' departure from the 2024 race and the Biden/Trump rematch that everyone is dreading. Then, with the good news about the economy and the stock market, what's the best move for investors? Plus, Nelson Peltz continues his Disney proxy fight, and a new report sheds light on the anti-DEI movement. Our Friend of Pivot is Aileen Lee, the founder and managing partner of the VC fund, Cowboy Ventures. She also happens to be the person who coined the term "unicorn" for billion dollar start-ups and shares her latest analysis on those companies. Follow Aileen at @aileenlee Follow us on Instagram and Threads at @pivotpodcastofficial. Follow us on TikTok at @pivotpodcast. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

  • #475
    Jan 19, 2024 · 1 hr 21 min

    Elon’s Power Play, Ozempic Insurance Costs, and the Future of ESG

    It’s the first-ever Pivot call-in show! Kara and Scott talk to Pivot listeners and answer questions on Elon, AI, Ozempic, and more. Plus, Apple’s new app store policy is facing backlash, CNN’s CEO maps out his plans for the future, and Bill Ackman is embroiled in yet another controversy. Follow us on Instagram and Threads at @pivotpodcastofficial. Follow us on TikTok at @pivotpodcast. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

  • #474
    Jan 16, 2024 · 43 min

    ‎Decoder: How Donald Trump and Elon Musk Killed Twitter, with Marty Baron and Zoe Schiffer

    Pivot will return on Friday! But in the meantime, we're bringing you this special episode of Decoder, all about the demise of Twitter. Nilay Patel talks with Marty Baron, former executive editor of The Washington Post, and Zoe Schiffer, managing editor of Platformer and author of "Extremely Hardcore: Inside Elon Musk’s Twitter." Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

  • #473
    Jan 12, 2024 · 1 hr 6 min

    Don Lemon Returns, Bitcoin ETF Approval, and BI vs. Axel Springer

    Kara and Scott discuss the final GOP debate before the Iowa caucuses, the SEC approving Bitcoin ETFs, and Apple Vision Pro getting ready to hit the market. Then, Don Lemon is back with a new show, but can X really be a contender in the online video space? Plus, Business Insider's clash with parent company Axel Springer over plagiarism articles on Bill Ackman's wife, Neri Oxman. Follow us on Instagram and Threads at @pivotpodcastofficial. Follow us on TikTok at @pivotpodcast. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

  • #472
    Jan 8, 2024 · 1 hr 10 min

    Musk Drug Use, Plagiarism Debates, & Disney's Family Feud

    Kara and Scott are back with a lot to discuss! They start with the new Wall Street Journal piece on Elon Musk’s drug use, and get some medical expertise and insights from Kara's brother, Dr. Jeffrey Swisher. Then, they discuss the fallout from Harvard president Claudine Gay's resignation, and Bill Ackman's wife facing plagiarism charges. Plus, Disney's family feud between ESPN and Jimmy Kimmel, a possible Warner Bros/Paramount merger on the horizon, and more. Follow Jeff at @jeffreyswisher Follow us on Instagram and Threads at @pivotpodcastofficial. Follow us on TikTok at @pivotpodcast. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

  • #472
    Jan 5, 2024 · 35 min

    AI Copyrights, Girl Math, and Blindsides

    Kara and Scott are starting off the new year answering your listener questions! They tackle why more tech people aren't serving in government, whether Prof G AI compensates Kara, and if girl math is a good thing. Plus, a discussion of personal blindsides and New Year’s resolutions revealed. Follow us on Instagram and Threads at @pivotpodcastofficial. Follow us on TikTok at @pivotpodcast. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

  • #471
    Dec 29, 2023 · 1 hr 2 min

    The Year in Pivot: AI, Unions, Taylor Swift, and Insults Galore

    Kara and Scott look back at highlights from the biggest themes of the year: learning to live with AI, labor strikes, the economic impact of girl power, and a sprinkling of Elon. Plus, what would Pivot be without some insults, squabbles, and humblebrags? Follow us on Instagram and Threads at @pivotpodcastofficial. Follow us on TikTok at @pivotpodcast. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at nymag.com/pivot Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

  • #470
    Dec 22, 2023 · 1 hr 29 min

    Best Friends of Pivot

    As 2023 comes to an end, Kara and Scott are revisiting some of their favorite Friends of Pivot interviews, including fascinating and thought-provoking conversations with Esther Perel, Mehdi Hasan, Lakshmi Rengarajan, and Rupublicans co-founder Craig DeForest Follow us on Instagram and Threads at @pivotpodcastofficial. Follow us on TikTok at @pivotpodcast. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

  • #469
    Dec 19, 2023 · 38 min

    2024 Predictions on AI, The Election, X's Future and More

    It’s time for our annual predictions episode! Kara and Scott share their 2024 predictions on politics, stocks, China, Google and more. Plus, some Friend of Pivot predictions from Jen Psaki, Mike Birbiglia, Fei-Fei Li, Bill Cohan, Dr. Joy Buolamwini, and Matt Belloni. Follow us on Instagram and Threads at @pivotpodcastofficial. Follow us on TikTok at @pivotpodcast. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

  • #468
    Dec 15, 2023 · 1 hr 20 min

    Epic Games Wins Against Google, COP 28, and Guest Naomi Alderman

    Kara and Scott discuss Tesla recalling 2 million vehicles, Netflix revealing viewership statistics, and a couple of….terrifying liquids. Then, nearly 200 countries have approved a global pact that calls for transitioning away from fossil fuels at COP28. And Epic Games has beat Google in court, with a jury ruling the company violated antitrust laws. Then we’re joined by Friend of Pivot, Naomi Alderman, on her new book, “The Future.” You can find Naomi Alderman on X at @NaomiAllthenews. Follow us on Instagram and Threads at @pivotpodcastofficial. Follow us on TikTok at @pivotpodcast. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

  • #467
    Dec 12, 2023 · 1 hr 9 min

    "Free Speech Warriors," EU's AI Act, and Guest Dan Pfeiffer

    Kara and Scott discuss Tucker Carlson's new streaming service, Elon letting Alex Jones back on X, and whether the criticism of Google's Gemini demo video is warranted. Then, UPenn's president resigns after that Congressional testimony last week, will the other presidents follow? Plus, the EU moves forward with its landmark AI Act. Finally, our Friend of Pivot is "Pod Save America" co-host and "Pollercoaster" host, Dan Pfeiffer. Dan gives us insight into the latest election poll numbers and shares some advice for Biden and the Democrats. Follow Dan on X at @danpfeiffer. Follow us on Instagram and Threads at @pivotpodcastofficial. Follow us on TikTok at @pivotpodcast. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

  • #466
    Dec 8, 2023 · 1 hr 16 min

    Taylor Swift, AI Alliance, University Presidents, and Guest Lou Paskalis

    Kara and Scott discuss TIME's Person of the Year, Taylor Swift, George Santos' Cameo stardom, and yet another Republican debate. Then, they critique the testimony of three university presidents who spoke to Congress about anti-semitism on their campuses. And it’s a big week in AI news: Meta is teaming up with IBM to form an “AI Alliance,” Google launched a new model, “Gemini,” and Elon Musk’s AI startup has filed with the SEC to raise up to $1 billion. Then we’re joined by Friend of Pivot and Chief Strategy Officer for Ad Fontes Media, Lou Paskalis to discuss Linda Yaccarino’s decision to stick it out at X. You can find Lou on X at @LouPas. Follow us on Instagram and Threads at @pivotpodcastofficial. Follow us on TikTok at @pivotpodcast. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

  • #465
    Dec 5, 2023 · 1 hr 6 min

    Dow is Up, Santos is Out, and Guest Sixto Cancel

    Kara and Scott discuss the Dow's record highs and home ownership's new lows. Then, George Santos leaves Congress like a "Scandal in the Wind," while the Newsom/DeSantis debate was a circus of another kind. Plus, Google is accused of suppressing evidence, Nelson Peltz continues his Disney proxy battle, and "rizz" is the word of the year (Do Kara and Scott have it?!). Our Friend of Pivot is Sixto Cancel, the CEO and Founder of Think of Us, who's on a mission to revolutionize the country's child welfare system. Follow Sixto at @sixtocancel Follow us on Instagram and Threads at @pivotpodcastofficial. Follow us on TikTok at @pivotpodcast. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

  • #464
    Dec 1, 2023 · 1 hr 20 min

    Elon, Kissinger, Cuban, Haley, IPOs, and Guest Rob Copeland

    We have a newspalooza for you today. Kara and Scott discuss Elon Musk's decision to put advertisers on blast, Henry Kissinger's death, Nikki Haley's next steps, those Mark Cuban political rumors, and Microsoft's non-voting seat at OpenAI. Then, guest Rob Copeland joins to discuss his new book, “The Fund: Ray Dalio, Bridgewater Associates, and The Unraveling of a Wall Street Legend.” You can find Rob on X at @realrobcopeland. Follow us on Instagram and Threads at @pivotpodcastofficial. Follow us on TikTok at @pivotpodcast. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

  • #463
    Nov 28, 2023 · 1 hr 9 min

    Sam Altman's Return to OpenAI, Meta's Underage Users, and Guest Alan Patricof

    Kara and Scott discuss Jeff Zucker's return to the news business, and the cost of advertiser backlash in Elon Musk's antisemitism controversy. Then, Sam Altman is back at OpenAI, but who are the winners and losers after all the chaos? Plus, a new complaint reveals what Meta knew about its underage users. Finally, our Friend of Pivot is legendary venture capitalist Alan Patricof. At age 89, Patricof is as active as ever, and he explains why the longevity economy is a smart investment. Follow Alan at @alanjpatricof Follow us on Instagram and Threads at @pivotpodcastofficial. Follow us on TikTok at @pivotpodcast. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

  • #462
    Nov 24, 2023 · 50 min

    Decoder: Barack Obama on AI, Free Speech, and the Future of the Internet

    Happy Thanksgiving! While Kara and Scott take a break after a crazy week of news, enjoy this episode of Decoder, featuring Nilay Patel's interview with former President Obama on AI, free speech, regulation, and more. Kara and Scott will return next week! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

  • #461
    Nov 21, 2023 · 1 hr 15 min

    Sam Altman Goes to Microsoft, Elon Goes Thermonuclear, and Guest Dr. Joy Buolamwini

    Kara shares her latest reporting on Sam Altman and his decision to go to Microsoft, then she and Scott discuss what's next for OpenAI. Plus, Elon Musk threatens a "thermonuclear lawsuit," and X CEO Linda Yaccarino resists calls to resign. Our Friend of Pivot is Dr. Joy Buolamwini, founder of the Algorithmic Justice League, and author of "Unmasking AI: My Mission to Protect What Is Human in a World of Machines." Dr. Joy gives her take on OpenAI and the Altman ouster, and also discusses her mission to root out bias in AI.Follow Joy at @jovialjoy Follow us on Instagram and Threads at @pivotpodcastofficial. Follow us on TikTok at @pivotpodcast. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

  • #460
    Nov 21, 2023 · 28 min

    Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella on the OpenAI Debacle

    In the swirl of drama around Sam Altman’s exit from OpenAI, one company seems to be the winner: Microsoft. It has both a significant partnership with, and an ownership stake in, the company, and now it's welcoming Altman and OpenAI researchers with open arms. For this emergency episode, Kara interviews Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

  • #459
    Nov 18, 2023 · 32 min

    Emergency Episode! Sam Altman Out at OpenAI and X's Advertiser Exodus

    It's an emergency crossover episode of Pivot and the Prof G Pod and there's a lot to discuss. Sam Altman is out as CEO of OpenAI – but what exactly happened? Kara shares her latest reporting. Plus, major advertisers are fleeing X after Elon Musk endorsed an antisemitic conspiracy theory. Will Elon and X survive the firestorm? Kara and Scott break it all down. Follow us on Instagram and Threads at @pivotpodcastofficial. Follow us on TikTok at @pivotpodcast. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

  • #458
    Nov 17, 2023 · 1 hr 12 min

    Government Shutdown Averted, A Surge in Hate Speech, and Guest Adrian Aoun

    Kara and Scott discuss Nikki Haley's social media stance, Truth Social's waning prospects, and the revelation that Google sends a third of Safari ad revenue to Apple. And don’t worry, they also talk about the Jeff Bezos and Lauren Sanchez photoshoot. You’re welcome/we’re sorry. Then, in the fight club that is DC, a government shutdown has been averted for now. Also, a look at how hate speech has surged on social media since the start of the Israel-Hamas war. Then we’re joined by Friend of Pivot, Adrian Aoun, CEO and Founder of the health tech startup Forward, which is launching what it calls, “the world’s first AI doctor’s office.” You can find Forward on Twitter at @goforward. Follow us on Instagram and Threads at @pivotpodcastofficial. Follow us on TikTok at @pivotpodcast. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at nymag.com/pivot. Editorial Note: In our original recording of this episode, we cited erroneous reporting from CNBC that Trump Media & Technology Group, Truth Social's parent company, had lost $73 million since its launch in early 2021. The correct operating loss is $35 million, according to SEC filings by the company. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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