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  • #27
    October 27 · 47 min

    E27 - Posture as a Nervous System State: Postural Restoration® and Neurogenic Tremoring with Dr. Wren McLaughlin

    Long before she became a physical therapist, Wren McLaughlin's body was quietly organizing itself around an eye her brain had learned to ignore. Knee pain as a teenager and a back injury in her twenties followed, each treated where it hurt. Then, in physical therapy school, a clinician looked at her sore back and started examining her shoulders, her neck and her feet. In this episode, Alex sits down with Dr. Wren to trace that arc: from a childhood eye turn to her first Postural Restoration treatments with founder Ron Hruska and an optometrist, where a lens and a turn of the head set off her first spontaneous tremor; through qigong, a formal introduction to Tension and Trauma Releasing Exercises (TRE®), and why a method still mattered to someone who could already tremor; to the core ideas of Postural Restoration (posture as a reflection of autonomic state, a body asymmetrical by design) and why repositioning first can open new places for the tremor to travel. Wren joins Neurogenic Integration facilitator Jenna Anderson for Introduction to Postural Restoration® with Neurogenic Tremoring, a live online workshop on Thursday, 5 November 2026, at 10:00 AM Mountain Time (6:00 PM Paris). It's free for members, $30 otherwise, and designed for people with an existing tremoring practice: https://neurogenic-integration.com/product/introduction-to-postural-restoration-with-neurogenic-tremoring/ Dr. Wren McLaughlin, PT, DPT, PRC, MS, is a physical therapist and integrative women's health coach in Bellingham, Washington, where she runs Bodymind Restoration. She has worked with the Postural Restoration approach for 15 years and has been Postural Restoration Certified since 2014. Her practice brings together physical therapy, medical qigong, breathing and health coaching, with a focus on women's and pelvic health and nervous system balance. Learn more at https://bodymindrestoration.com/ ⏱ KEY HIGHLIGHTS 00:00 Welcome & introductions 03:35 The 5 November workshop: reposition, then tremor 06:35 Born with an eye turn 08:24 "You need to come see me in the clinic" 09:49 Ron Hruska, an optometrist and a first spontaneous tremor 12:16 Standing tremoring after qigong 13:26 A midwife's introduction to TRE® 16:37 "My nervous system is learning something new" 18:49 Why a method still helped: permission and a container 21:16 Tremoring as a weekly self-care rhythm 23:22 Posture as a reflection of autonomic state 24:40 Asymmetrical by design 27:10 Resting around the sacrum, sternum and sphenoid 30:07 "What do you see?" "A black patch." 31:49 Can you feel your left heel? 38:18 Reading patterns, and when tremoring means "this is good" 40:19 What the two approaches offer each other 44:04 The thorax and closing reflections 🔗 RESOURCES & LINKS Connect with Dr. Wren McLaughlin — physical therapist and integrative women's health coach at Bodymind Restoration in Bellingham, Washington, offering physical therapy, qigong and health coaching: https://bodymindrestoration.com/ Also mentioned: Jenna Anderson (workshop co-guide), Ron Hruska and the Postural Restoration Institute, vision therapy, the Holistic Pelvic Care course, and structural integration and the Feldenkrais Method (Alex's background). (Full links in the internal notes below.) 🔗 Join our live weekly classes → https://neurogenic-integration.com/webshop/#classes 🎓 Explore our Online TRE® Certification → https://neurogenic-integration.com/webshop/#cert 📍 FIND US ONLINE Neurogenic Integration: https://neurogenic-integration.com/ Instagram: @neurogenicintegration

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  • #26
    September 4 · 47 min

    Post-Traumatic Growth Up Close: A Coma, Neuroplasticity & the Way Back with Dr. Justin Kennedy

    In the Tension and Trauma Releasing Exercises (TRE®) certification program there's an idea we keep coming back to: post-traumatic growth. The possibility that moving through trauma can redirect a life toward something bigger and more purposeful. It's easy to describe and much harder to point at. Dr. Justin Kennedy is what it looks like up close. He was 29, on a motorbike on a wet road in Cape Town, when a car came out of nowhere. His helmet smashed open and so did his head, and the traumatic brain injury that followed left him in a coma. Years later he told Marshall Goldsmith that the hardest part had not been learning to walk again. The hardest part was learning how to feel happy again. In this episode, Siv sits down with Justin to trace that arc: the subdural haemorrhage and the slow, twenty-hours-a-day emergence from a coma; the first time he let go of the parallel bars and walked alone; the strange discovery that when you can't say the word "exuberant," you struggle to feel it; the depression nobody warned him about, and the two unglamorous ingredients — something to grapple with, and people who love you — that moved him from surviving into building. It's also a conversation about routes in. Justin could hear every word of psychotherapy and couldn't speak enough to use it — worth sitting with for anyone whose work goes through the body rather than through language, Neurogenic Tremoring included. What grew out of the recovery was a doctoral thesis, a TED talk, a book, and the npn Hub — a global community of practitioners who want applied neuroscience out of the journals and into real rooms. Justin and Siv first met there, and Neurogenic Integration has since formed a partnership with the npn Hub: graduates of our Online TRE® Certification can go on to earn the npn neuroplastician credential — validation from an external, international advisory board. Justin is also offering listeners a free copy of his book Brain Reboot and a VIP guest pass to the hub. ⏱ KEY HIGHLIGHTS 0:00 - Welcome & introductions 2:40 - A rainy day in Cape Town and the car that came out of nowhere 4:30 - Coming out of a coma isn't waking up 6:35 - The first goal: walking again 7:15 - Letting go of the rails 8:36 - "The Broca centre in my brain was broken" 9:41 - If you can't say "exuberant," can you feel it? 11:51 - Neuroplasticity becomes the whole universe 13:57 - The two ingredients: a goal and social support 15:38 - Healing alone versus healing in a tribe 17:11 - "The brain is a social organ" 18:57 - "Why don't we start an institute?" — the prakademic idea 21:25 - Speaking on the science, not in the science 22:54 - Where TRE® fits in a neuroscience community 26:30 - "No professors or princesses — we're all wearing the same crown" 30:34 - Inside the hub: orientation, brain pods and round tables 3 8:09 - The round table whose host never showed up 40:20 - Closing reflections 🔗 RESOURCES & LINKS Your VIP Neuroplastician Pass: JOIN HERE - on the top right A Apply: npnGuest-30 in ‘’Add Promo Code’’ - bottom left I also gave you access NeuroStarter.com for free with your email Here’s the Neuroplastician® Credential As promised here's my book Brain Reboot And our recent Harvard Business Review article Connect with Dr. Justin Kennedy — professor, applied neuroscientist, executive coach, author of Brain Reboot, and founder of the npn Hub, a credentialing body and community of practice for practitioners applying neuroplasticity-based tools: https://npnhub.com Also mentioned: Marshall Goldsmith (executive coach, and a contributor to Brain Reboot), the npn Institute and the neuroplastician credential, and Professors Michael Platt and Paul Zak, who have both dropped into hub round tables. (Full links in the internal notes below.) 🎓 Explore our Online TRE® Certification — and the npn credential pathway → https://neurogenic-integration.com/webshop/#cert 🔗 Join our live weekly classes → https://neurogenic-integration.com/webshop/#classes 📍 FIND US ONLINE Neurogenic Integration: https://neurogenic-integration.com/ Instagram: @neurogenicintegration

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  • #25
    August 7 · 1 hr 13 min

    E25 - TRE & the Nervous System of Leadership with Isabelle Claus Teixeira

    For years, Isabelle Claus Teixeira trained leaders on everything you could put on a slide — competencies, values, communication. But one question kept coming back that no framework could answer: what actually creates executive presence? The search took her out of her own head and into her body, and eventually to a floor in Singapore, tremoring, finally getting the answer she'd been chasing for a career. In this episode, Alex sits down with Isabelle to trace that arc: from a French law student who wanted to be a human rights lawyer, through 27 years as a global HR and leadership-development leader; to the burnout at 34 that first revealed how much her body had been carrying; the day a coach told her "you have to go through the body — try TRE"; her training at the Strozzi Institute and with Dr. David Berceli; and the work she's building now — bringing Tension and Trauma Releasing Exercises (TRE®) and nervous system regulation into the corporate world, where she argues that in the age of AI, our regulated, embodied humanity is the only real differentiator left. ⏱ KEY HIGHLIGHTS 0:00 - Welcome & introductions 3:28 - A French girl who never planned to leave home 5:07 - The human rights lawyer she meant to be — and the question that redirected her 9:52 - Hitting the limit of cognitive coaching: "What is presence?" 12:37 - Burnout at 34 — and discovering developmental trauma 16:16 - "You have to go through the body" — first hearing of TRE® 17:47 - The first session and the answer to presence 19:28 - "Safety is a felt sense" — the self-awareness gap 22:55 - The being-versus-doing shift in leadership 25:15 - Holding space and the fulfillment of the organism's tremor 28:31 - An hour of tremoring: the anger practice at the Strozzi Institute 32:30 - Executive presence isn't a skill — it's the nervous system 34:59 - What makes us human in the age of AI 4 4:22 - Selling resilience, not trauma: the language corporate can hear 51:04 - "Presence and Self-Regulation for Coaches": TRE® meets ICF 53:57 - The coaches' burnout epidemic 1:01:12 - A dream of embodied leadership going mainstream 1:12:11 - Closing reflections 🔗 RESOURCES & LINKS Connect with Isabelle Claus Teixeira — leadership, somatic and trauma-informed coach, certified TRE® provider and trainer, and co-founder of Business & Human Development Asia, based near Kyoto, Japan: [add Isabelle's primary link before publishing] Also mentioned: Dr. David Berceli (creator of TRE®), Richard Strozzi-Heckler and the Strozzi Institute, Amanda "Mandy" Blake (author of Your Body Is Your Brain), David Treleaven (trauma-informed mindfulness), Jon Kabat-Zinn (MBSR), the International Coaching Federation (ICF), and Isabelle's somatic colleague Simba Stenqvist. (Full links in the internal notes below.) 🔗 Join our live weekly classes → https://neurogenic-integration.com/webshop/#classes 🎓 Explore our Online TRE® Certification → https://neurogenic-integration.com/webshop/#cert 📍 FIND US ONLINE Neurogenic Integration: https://neurogenic-integration.com/ Instagram: @neurogenicintegration

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  • #24
    July 17 · 1 hr 15 min

    E24 - Humanitarian Applications of TRE: Disaster Response & Finding Local Champions with Sae Kani

    In 2004, photojournalist Sae Kani was dropped by a US helicopter into Aceh, Indonesia, days after the tsunami erased entire villages. She walked, photographed, interviewed — and felt nothing. It was only back home, diagnosed with PTSD, that she began to understand what disaster leaves in the body. Two decades of humanitarian work later, she is still answering the question that experience planted: why is trauma care the piece disaster response keeps leaving out? In this episode, Alex sits down with Sae to trace that arc: from development studies in London and photojournalism in East Timor and post-tsunami Aceh; through ten years building disaster-preparedness education in Indonesia — including materials for children with disabilities that were showcased at the UN; to discovering Tension and Trauma Releasing Exercises (TRE®) in 2012 and recognizing "the missing piece" of her aid work; the decision after the 2015 Nepal earthquake to quit her job, sell everything, and teach at a nun school in Kathmandu; the hard lessons about why quick international responses don't last; and the community facilitator model now bearing fruit in Nepal and Vietnam — where a war veteran's forty-year phantom pain finally released, and his voice reached the government in Hanoi. Sae Kani, also known as Khalida, holds bachelor's and master's degrees in International Development from SOAS, University of London, and spent 13 years working across disaster-affected regions in Asia. She discovered TRE® in 2012 while supporting recovery efforts after the Great East Japan Earthquake, became a certified provider in 2013, and spent a year in Nepal after the 2015 earthquake providing trauma care and training local therapists. Since 2016 she has been the representative of TRE for ALL Japan, and as an internationally certified TRE® trainer she conducts workshops in five Asian countries and works with clients across Europe and the Americas. She lives in Yamanakako Village, Yamanashi Prefecture, at the foot of Mount Fuji. ⏱ KEY HIGHLIGHTS 0:00 - Welcome & introductions 3:24 - A childhood pull toward the world's hardest places 5:34 - Photojournalism: asylum seekers, East Timor & the stories behind the scenes 9:47 - Flying into Aceh after the 2004 tsunami 11:52 - "When I was there, I felt nothing" — coming home with PTSD 14:34 - A careful recovery: rest, meditation & 10,000 photographs 17:50 - The Yogyakarta earthquake & a decade in humanitarian aid 19:43 - Disaster-preparedness education for children with disabilities 27:27 - Discovering TRE®: the missing piece of aid work 28:54 - Aceh ten years later: new buildings, unhealed scars 35:29 - "Joan, we are going there" — the Nepal decision 40:46 - Learning from failure: why quick responses don't stay 41:56 - Jamuna's decade with survivors of trafficking 48:33 - Why standard certification can't reach the grassroots 53:11 - The Vietnam disability project: phantom pain & a trip to Hanoi 1:07:18 - "There is no shortcut" — support, not supervision 1:09:44 - What's next for Sae: subtle body, meditation & couples work 1:14:23 - Closing reflections 🔗 RESOURCES & LINKS Connect with Sae Kani — internationally certified TRE® certification trainer based in Yamanashi, Japan, and representative of TRE for ALL Japan: https://www.saekani.com/english Also mentioned: Dr. David Berceli (creator of TRE®), Joan McDonald (TRE® trainer and Sae's partner in the Nepal project), Tsoknyi Rinpoche (whose nun school invited them to Nepal), Jamuna (community facilitator in Nepal), and TRE for All. (Full links in the internal notes below.) 🔗 Join our live weekly classes → https://neurogenic-integration.com/webshop/#classes 🎓 Explore our Online TRE® Certification → https://neurogenic-integration.com/webshop/#cert 📍 FIND US ONLINE Neurogenic Integration: https://neurogenic-integration.com/ Instagram: @neurogenicintegration

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  • #23
    July 3 · 1 hr 3 min

    E23 - One World, One Family: 1,000 TRE® Workshops Across Indonesia with Hindra Gunawan

    A betrayed business partner. Five years of anger and sleepless nights. A vow of forgiveness that the mind made but the body refused to keep. That was Hindra Gunawan's life before he found Tension and Trauma Releasing Exercises (TRE®) — and a seven-minute phone call afterward showed him something had changed at a level no amount of willpower had reached. In this episode, Alex sits down with Hindra Gunawan — Indonesia's first TRE provider and now its certification trainer — to trace that arc: from physics teacher to tuition-center entrepreneur; from the betrayal that stole his sleep to the training room in Singapore where sixty people tremored and he didn't; from paying for radio spots he couldn't yet explain to reaching more than 40,000 Indonesians; and from a single vow in Phoenix, Arizona — "TRE must be learned by all Indonesian people" — to celebrating his team's 1,000th workshop with Dr. David Berceli. Along the way: leading Neurogenic Tremoring safely with 600 soldiers at a time, the Shaka Foundation's work with teachers, police, and disaster survivors, the durian farm he planted to fund it all, and the 3 a.m. phone commitment every Indonesian provider makes to their alumni. Hindra Gunawan is a TRE® certification trainer and provider based in Jakarta, Indonesia. A former physics teacher and education entrepreneur, he became Indonesia's first TRE provider in 2013 and has since built one of the most active TRE communities in the world — over 1,000 workshops delivered and more than 40,000 people reached. He leads TRE Indonesia and co-founded the Shaka Foundation with Dr. David Berceli, a not-for-profit bringing TRE to teachers, police, military personnel, and communities affected by natural disasters across Indonesia. ⏱ KEY HIGHLIGHTS 0:00 Welcome & introductions — a decade of inspiration 5:57 The physics teacher whose students wouldn't let him go 7:38 Building a tuition-center business — five branches and a franchise 9:46 The betrayal that brought five years of anger and sleepless nights 10:48 "I said I forgive them — but when I heard their voice, the anger came back" 12:19 Sixty people tremoring in Singapore — and Hindra didn't 13:19 The second training: anger rising from stomach to throat 15:01 The seven-minute phone call that changed everything 16:00 Phoenix, 2013 — "TRE must be learned by all Indonesian people" 20:20 Radio ads he couldn't explain — and 40,000 people later 22:50 The Shaka Foundation: disasters, guardians, and teachers 27:39 A durian farm with a mission 31:05 "Almost every day I get a testimonial" — what Hindra is most proud of 33:40 Why people stop — the wound-washing analogy and lifelong free gatherings 36:46 Leading Neurogenic Tremoring safely with groups of 600 43:57 The 3 a.m. commitment every Indonesian provider makes 49:23 An earthquake, a traumatized boy, and what the tremors made possible 52:31 Tremor stigma in Indonesian culture — "this is very natural" 57:11 "TRE is a gift" — one world, one family 🔗 RESOURCES & LINKS Connect with Hindra Gunawan — TRE® certification trainer in Jakarta, Indonesia, leader of TRE Indonesia and co-founder of the Shaka Foundation. https://www.treindonesia.com/ Also mentioned: Dr. David Berceli (creator of TRE®, co-founder of the Shaka Foundation), Chris Balsley (Hindra's first TRE teacher), TRE Indonesia, and the Shaka Foundation. (Full links in the internal notes below.) 🔗 Join our live weekly classes → https://neurogenic-integration.com/webshop/#classes 🎓 Explore our Online TRE® Certification → https://neurogenic-integration.com/webshop/#cert 📍 FIND US ONLINE Neurogenic Integration: https://neurogenic-integration.com/ Instagram: @neurogenicintegration

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  • #22
    June 26 · 1 hr 4 min

    E22 - Neurogenic Tremoring as a Dynamic Superpower for Kids with Vera Live, Špela Potočnik & Katja Jarc

    Most people meet Neurogenic Tremoring through trauma work. This conversation asks a different question: what if kids learned it first — as a built-in resilience skill, before the world ever tells them something is wrong? In this episode, Alex sits down with three women working at the frontier of that idea — Vera Live, Špela Potočnik, and Katja Jarc — to trace how Neurogenic Tremoring is being reframed for youth: why nervous system regulation has been “kept behind the clinical wall”; how Vera co-developed the book Dynamic Superpower: Inner Strength for Kids & Teens with TRE® creator Dr. David Berceli; and how Špela and Katja piloted a school curriculum in Slovenia where five to seven minutes of guided tremoring, twice a week, began changing how teenage students slept, focused, and felt in their own bodies. Along the way: the science stations that teach kids about the vagus nerve and interoception, why a safe relationship matters more than a perfect protocol, and how the body becomes a friend rather than a problem to fix. Vera Live co-founded Dynamic Superpower with Dr. David Berceli to bring the body’s natural tremoring reflex to kids and teens as a proactive resilience tool, not a clinical intervention. A PE teacher, yoga trainer, and certified TRE® provider, she works to equip the adults in children’s lives to pass on nervous system training safely. Find the work at https://www.reflexomobility.org Špela Potočnik is a Slovenian youth counselor, social pedagogue, and school counselor with nearly 20 years in schools, a certified TRE® provider, and one of two pilot developers behind the Slovenia study. She collaborates with the Intigrum Institute and advocates for burnout prevention in schools. Katja Jarc is a primary school teacher, marriage and family therapist, gestalt counselor, arts therapies specialist, and certified TRE® provider — the second Slovenia pilot developer. Through her practice, Manus Katja Jarc, she has integrated body-oriented and dance-movement work for over 13 years, and co-led the 2024 “TRE with Kids” training in Amsterdam with Vera. ⏱ KEY HIGHLIGHTS 0:00 Welcome & introductions 6:04 The problem: regulation “kept behind the clinical wall” 6:42 Giving youth agency: “the body is really your best friend” 8:28 How the name “dynamic superpower” came to be 10:07 Špela on test anxiety, panic attacks, and the missing body piece 14:23 Adapting tremoring for kids — toys, play, and safety 15:52 The book as a manual, not just a story 20:20 Science stations: three brains, the vagus nerve, interoception 22:17 A 10-year-old reads it cold — and tremors on their own 25:51 A mother, a doctor, and her daughter’s aha moment 28:53 Lifting the stigma: “this is your power” 33:53 Inside the Slovenia pilot: how it began 35:20 Five to seven minutes, twice a week 43:14 Špela’s surprise: how little tremoring is enough 4 5:10 The real key — a safe relationship 50:01 What’s next: educational programs & specialized guides 57:14 Closing reflections: “pay attention, become astonished” 🔗 RESOURCES & LINKS Connect with the guests — Reflexive Mobility Academy (Vera Live): https://www.reflexomobility.org · Špela Potočnik: https://www.mojesledi.com · Katja Jarc: practice MANUS. The Slovenia pilot and the family’s TRE® videos with Dr. Berceli are linked in the internal notes below. Also mentioned: Dr. David Berceli (creator of TRE®), Linnea Gillen, Dr. Lisa Glenk, the Intigrum Institute, and the International Baccalaureate framework. Continue your journey with Neurogenic Integration 🔗 Join our live weekly classes → https://neurogenic-integration.com/webshop/#classes 🎓 Explore our Online TRE® Certification → https://neurogenic-integration.com/webshop/#cert 📍 FIND US ONLINE Neurogenic Integration: https://neurogenic-integration.com/ Instagram: @neurogenicintegration

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  • #21
    June 19 · 54 min

    E21 - Neurogenic Tremoring As a Catalyst for Meditation, Qigong & Nondual Practice with Jared Dahmer

    Most people come to tremoring looking for relief. Jared came looking for depth. By the time he found Tension and Trauma Releasing Exercises (TRE®), he'd spent nearly a decade inside ancient yoga, Daoist Qigong, and nondual meditation — and what he wasn't expecting was that a single video, found mid-session on the floor of his own room, would finally let all of it land in his body. In this episode, Alex sits down with Jared to trace that arc: years of self-study in Qigong and Kriya; the night he searched "how to release trauma" and stumbled onto TRE; and the first three months when, in his words, "everything became felt in my body." Along the way they get into pausing inside a session, the integration that happens lying still afterward, lowering your baseline beneath the polyvagal curve, and the paradox at the heart of his path — nondual teachers say let go of the body, while tremoring keeps inviting him further in. Jared is also leading a guest workshop for the Neurogenic Integration community on Thursday, October 22, 2026 — a chance to experience what brings tremoring alive for him, firsthand. Jared Dahmer is a TRE® provider certified through Red Beard's TRE certification pathway, based in Louisiana, USA. Before TRE, he spent six to seven years in deep self-study of Daoist Qigong — in the lineage of Jonathan White, Michael Winn, and Mantak Chia — alongside ancient yoga, Kriya, and nondual meditation. He teaches both TRE and Qigong and offers one-on-one sessions, exploring tremoring not only as a way to release stress and trauma, but as a catalyst for embodiment and awakening. ⏱ KEY HIGHLIGHTS 0:00 Welcome & introductions 2:00 Starting Qigong in 2020: the search for deeper connection 4:00 An experience at twenty that changed everything 6:00 What is Qigong? "The art of subtle breath" 8:00 Kriya, Kundalini & feeling "turned on by life from within" 10:00 Defining "deep": the body as temple 15:00 Searching "how to release trauma" — and finding TRE 16:00 "Tickled from within": laughter, tears, and arriving at safety 17:00 The morning after: long-term TRE and getting hooked 20:00 The first three months: "everything became felt in my body" 22:00 "I feel myself": dropping the character 25:00 Pausing inside a session: the weightlifting analogy 27:00 Integration: how lying still teaches the body to meditate 29:00 Beneath the polyvagal curve: lowering your baseline 36:00 Teaching others: intimacy, relationships & feeling safe 40:00 "Medicine for the nervous system" 44:00 Where tremoring meets nondual meditation 50:00 Closing reflections: "I just want the world to feel safer" 🔗 RESOURCES & LINKS Connect with Jared Dahmer — TRE® provider & Qigong teacher, Louisiana, USA, currently offering one-on-one sessions. Linktree: https://linktr.ee/jaredjoyyy Also mentioned: David Berceli (creator of TRE®), Jonathan White, Michael Winn, Mantak Chia, Mika Devos, Tree Wiseblood, Christina Guillaume, Ramana Maharshi, and the book The Direct Means to Eternal Bliss. (Full links in the internal notes below.) Continue your journey with Neurogenic Integration 🔗 Join our live weekly classes → https://neurogenic-integration.com/webshop/#classes 🎓 Explore our Online TRE® Certification → https://neurogenic-integration.com/webshop/#cert 📍 FIND US ONLINE Neurogenic Integration: https://neurogenic-integration.com/ Instagram: @neurogenicintegration

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  • #20
    June 12 · 1 hr 22 min

    E20 - Neurogenic Tremoring for Manual Therapists: Bridging Bodywork, Fascia & the Nervous System with Ágnes Katona

    In this episode, Alex sits down with Ágnes Katona — a physiotherapist and manual therapist in Budapest, Hungary — to compare notes on a journey many bodyworkers are quietly making: from working only with tissues, joints, and fascia to recognizing the nervous system as the missing piece. Both Alex and Ágnes were trained in traditions that had no language for what their own bodies started doing on the table. Both rediscovered that "missing link" through their own spontaneous tremoring. And both have spent years working out what it actually looks like to integrate Neurogenic Tremoring into a hands-on treatment session. Their conversation moves through Ágnes's path from physiotherapy into manual therapy and the moment a single client introduced her to TRE; Alex's first spontaneous tremor on a Rolfing table years before he had any language for what it was; two case studies that show what becomes possible when manual therapy and tremoring meet — including a client whose body was so protected it couldn't receive touch at all; and the new science from the 2024 Fascia Research Congress, where Robert Schleip and Stephen Porges took the keynote stage together and showed how fascia and the autonomic nervous system are far more entangled than bodyworkers have been taught. This is also a preview of Neurogenic Tremoring for Manual Therapists & Bodyworkers — a 4-day in-person seminar in Budapest, September 24–27, 2026, taught by Alex Greene and hosted by Ágnes Katona. Romania dates to follow. Ágnes Katona is a physiotherapist, manual therapist, and certified TRE® provider based in Budapest, Hungary. She is the owner of Balanced You Therapy and Learning Hub, where she integrates Neurogenic Tremoring into her clinical work and trains other practitioners to do the same. With a deep curiosity about the connection between the body's tissues and the nervous system, Ágnes has spent years weaving touch and tremoring together in her treatment room. Find her at balancedyou.hu. ⏱ KEY HIGHLIGHTS 00:00 — Welcome & Introductions: Alex in Boulder, Ágnes in Budapest 03:49 — Ágnes's Path: From Physiotherapy to Manual Therapy in Search of the Missing Link 10:45 — A Client Mentions TRE: Ágnes's First Encounter and First Personal Session 13:21 — "There's Nothing Wrong With My Body": When Tremoring Stopped Feeling Like a Symptom 21:11 — Alex's Story: A Spontaneous Tremor on a Rolfing Table, Years Before He Had a Name for It 27:13 — "Cold Bodies and Warm Bodies": Why Awareness Changes What Bodywork Can Do 32:22 — Ágnes Experiments: Inviting Tremoring Through Touch Alone in Her Treatment Room 43:00 — Case Study: A Postpartum Body That Had Been Told Shaking Was Wrong 51:00 — Case Study: The Kickboxer Whose System Was Too Protected for Manual Work 56:43 — Stress Is Not Someone Else's Job — It's in the Room With You 58:06 — Fascia Meets the Nervous System: Robert Schleip, Stephen Porges & the 2024 Fascia Research Congress 1:04:32 — Myofibroblasts, Thoracolumbar Fascia & the Hidden Stress-to-Tension Pipeline 1:16:06 — Inside the September Seminar: Theory, Safety, and Hands-On Practice 1:20:17 — Closing Reflections 🔗 RESOURCES & LINKS MENTIONED Connect with Ágnes Katona Physiotherapist, manual therapist & certified TRE® provider, Budapest: balancedyou.hu Instagram: @agnes_katona_balancedyou Facebook: Balanced You Therapy and Learning The September seminar — Neurogenic Tremoring for Manual Therapists & Bodyworkers 📍 Budapest, Hungary — 4-day in-person training 📅 September 24–27, 2026 👨‍🏫 Taught by Alex Greene, hosted by Ágnes Katona 🎓 Part of a 4-stage certification pathway leading to the Certified Neurogenic Tremor Facilitator (CNTF) credential, accredited by Neurogenic Integration 📋 Prerequisite: a minimum of 5 TRE® sessions before the seminar (in-person or online — multiple ways to fulfill) 💶 Midway Special pricing of 870 EUR available until June 30, 2026 (rises to 950 EUR after). Bundle pricing with the optional International Certification Process also available. 🌍 Romania dates to follow — details to come Research and people mentioned in this conversation Dr. David Berceli — Creator of TRE®: https://treglobal.org Dr. Stephen Porges — Polyvagal Theory: https://www.stephenporges.com Dr. Robert Schleip — Fascia research & myofibroblast contractility: https://www.somatics.de Fascia Research Society & Fascia Research Congress: https://fasciaresearchsociety.org Dr. Peter Levine — Somatic Experiencing: https://www.somaticexperiencing.com Dr. Bessel van der Kolk — The Body Keeps the Score: https://www.besselvanderkolk.com Ida Rolf / Rolfing® Structural Integration: https://rolf.org John F. Barnes Myofascial Release: https://myofascialrelease.com Continue your journey with Neurogenic Integration 🔗 Join our live weekly classes → https://neurogenic-integration.com/webshop/#classes 🎓 Explore our Online TRE® Certification → https://neurogenic-integration.com/webshop/#cert 📍 FIND US ONLINE Neurogenic Integration: https://neurogenic-integration.com/ Instagram: @neurogenicintegration

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  • #19
    May 29 · 56 min

    E19 - The Body in the Classroom: TRE, YogaCalm & Why Youth Need Somatic Education with Lynea Gillen

    ⏱ KEY HIGHLIGHTS Lynea's Journey — From Yoga to YogaCalm to TRE 00:00 — Welcome & Introductions: Alex in Boulder, Lynea in Portland 03:00 — "It Worked With My Body": Finding Yoga at 15 and a Nervous System That Didn't Respond to Talk 05:00 — When Yoga Opened the Trauma: Why Practitioners Didn't Know What to Do, and the Gap Between Body and Story 06:30 — Building YogaCalm: Combining Yoga and Counseling in Behavior Classrooms — and Writing the Book Teachers Tried to Censor 09:00 — Grassroots Growth: Why Seeding One Teacher at a Time Worked Better Than Mandating It School-Wide 10:00 — Finding David Berceli Online: One Client Who Slept Better Than He'd Slept, and a Workshop in Canada 12:00 — The Evidence Base Is Growing: Presenting TRE at the IVAT Trauma Conference in Honolulu 14:00 — Adapting TRE for Youth: Culture First, Adults First, and the Mistakes That Taught Lynea to Slow Down 18:30 — A Mother-Teen Study in China: 140 Dyads, Eight Weeks of TRE, and Why This Design Matters 21:00 — David Berceli's Question: Can Somatic Practices Reach Youth Where They Actually Live — On Social Media? 24:00 — "Find One Thing in Your Heart": Why Counseling Works Better on the Floor 25:00 — "It Takes a Village, but the Villages Don't Exist": The Nervous System Availability Crisis in Schools 26:30 — Relaxation vs. Distraction: The Boy Who Checked His Heart Rate and Realized Video Games Weren't Calming Him 30:00 — Dopamine Too Fast, Too Often: Why Digital Reward Cycles Hijack What the Body Needs 34:00 — "TRE Is Faster at Bringing People Into the Body Than Any Other Modality I've Ever Used" 38:00 — The Boy Who Never Learned TRE: A Middle Schooler with Panic Attacks, a Wall, and Snapping Fingers 42:00 — Yoga Was Strange in the '80s Too: Why the Path to Normalizing TRE for Youth Looks Familiar 44:00 — Coming Out of Freeze: Why the Arch of Activation Can Scare Everyone in the Room Closing 53:00 — Closing Reflections: Building a Global Community That Shares Ideas Instead of Prescribing Answers 🔗 RESOURCES & LINKS MENTIONED Connect with Lynea Gillen Licensed Professional Counselor, Global TRE® Trainer & co-founder of YogaCalm, Portland, Oregon Website: yogacalm.org YogaCalm Resources • Yoga Calm for Children by Lynea Gillen & Jim Gillen — https://www.amazon.com/Yoga-Calm-Children-Educating-Heart/dp/0979928907 • Good People Everywhere by Lynea Gillen, illustrated by Kristina Swarner — https://www.amazon.com/Good-People-Everywhere-Lynea-Gillen/dp/0979928982 • YogaCalm Summer Immersion Retreat — https://www.yogacalm.org/courses/summer-immersion-2026/ Lynea's next TRE Certification Training: https://www.yogacalm.org/courses/tension-trauma-releasing-exercises-module-1-certification-training-sept-26-27-2026/ Her next Continuing Education, for existing providers: https://www.yogacalm.org/courses/moving-out-of-freeze-with-tre-may-23-2026/ Contact email: info@yogacalm.org In person, Summer, Yoga Calm Training: https://www.yogacalm.org/courses/summer-immersion-2026/ Her book, Good People Everywhere: https://www.amazon.com/Good-People-Everywhere-Lynea-Gillen/dp/0979928982/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1Q0L8LDYWT2N0&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.5zQ46nUrYY4NOu1djVIaTjdTwYGxWkqN7RixdKVG3K2fjUvULURTt8v-Dg_OJqEm37GZDxeeFY0A7w55SY3ASgst-W19jwVDlXPt0MFjpLntoJeIMcQ9umsZxzzudmiVis6c8yhfnrjep31AD8jkYjM6z0Fn0s7Zs5MDVPE-x2AMsb4QOvnfNzWycdFRjiANd7_46X0cD3aVHkSyk4jZRIakJu6uTZQaFzCgZBbJvw8.CIBfNvAw2RcHU4J3l2y87V8yl08FTlIjK_DtE58E_c4&dib_tag=se&keywords=good+people+everywhere+book&qid=1775673677&sprefix=good+people+everywh%2Caps%2C233&sr=8-1 Research and People Mentioned • Dr. David Berceli — Creator of TRE®: https://treglobal.org • IVAT — Institute on Violence, Abuse and Trauma (Hawai'i Summit): https://www.ivatcenters.org/ • Dr. Stephen Porges — Polyvagal Theory: https://www.stephenporges.com • Špela Potočnik & Katja — TRE pilot study with youth in Slovenian educational settings (referenced by Alex; study details pending) • China RCT — Randomized controlled trial of TRE with 140 mother-adolescent dyads at a psychiatric hospital (currently recruiting) • Still Face Experiment — Dr. Edward Tronick's foundational research on caregiver emotional availability Continue Your Journey with Neurogenic Integration 🔗 Join our live weekly classes → https://neurogenic-integration.com/webshop/#classes 🎓 Explore our Online TRE® Certification → https://neurogenic-integration.com/webshop/#cert 📍 FIND US ONLINE Neurogenic Integration: https://neurogenic-integration.com/ Instagram: @neurogenicintegration

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  • #18
    May 15 · 1 hr 23 min

    E18 - From Pediatric Oncology to TRE for All: A Nurse's Path Into Stewarding a Global Practice with Tanya Beard, MN, BN

    In this episode, Alex sits down with Tanya Beard, MN, BN — Executive Director at TRE for All (TFA), the global nonprofit that has stewarded TRE certification trainings for nearly fifteen years. Tanya comes to this role through a career most people don't take a straight line through: pediatric oncology and bone marrow transplant nursing at twenty-two, ten years as a child and family psychiatric nurse practitioner, service in the Air National Guard and Air Force Reserves, consulting with schools and families, and — after the pandemic — a job at her local public library. Underneath all of it was one consistent instinct: bring the body into the room. Walking sessions with teenage clients, yoga, mindfulness, breath. Then a single optional after-hours class introduced her to TRE, and the trajectory bent again. Tanya Beard, MN, BN, is the Executive Director at TRE for All (TFA), the global nonprofit overseeing TRE® certification trainings worldwide. Based in Washington State, she brings more than two decades of nursing and clinical experience to the role — beginning as a pediatric oncology nurse at Doernbecher Children's Hospital, later working for roughly a decade as a child and family psychiatric nurse practitioner, and serving with the Air National Guard and Air Force Reserves. She is a certified TRE® provider trained by the late Susan Shifman, and has consulted with schools, families, and treatment centers on body-based approaches to nervous system care. Learn more about TRE for All at treglobal.org. ⏱ KEY HIGHLIGHTS 00:00 — Welcome & Introductions: Alex with Tanya Beard, New Executive Director at TRE for All 02:30 — From Pediatric Oncology at 22 to Child & Family Psychiatric Nurse Practitioner 05:30 — Bringing the Body Into the Room: Walking Sessions, Yoga & Breath in Clinical Practice 07:30 — "Effervescence": Tanya's First TRE Session at a Yoga Calm Training with Lynea Gillen 10:00 — Down the Rabbit Hole: Discovering Dr. David Berceli and Training with Susan Shifman 14:00 — Kicked by a Horse: What Being a Patient Taught Her About Nursing 22:30 — Population Health, the Air National Guard, and a Pivot Toward Prevention 27:00 — Pandemic Reset: The Library Job and an Unexpected Phone Call 28:30 — A "Body Yes": Saying Yes to the TFA Board During a Time of Transition 33:00 — Three Pillars: Clarity, Conduct & Accessibility at TRE for All 36:00 — The Scope: ~95 Trainers, 65+ Countries, Thousands of Providers Worldwide 42:30 — Three Field Stories: NYC Firefighters, Missionary Sisters in Cameroon, and Mayan Villages in Guatemala 48:00 — TRE's "Flexible Skeleton": A Clear Shape That Travels Across Cultures 55:00 — Where the Research Is Heading: Denmark's MS Trial and New Studies from China 1:03:30 — A Stoplight, a Stranger, and Permission to Shake 1:10:00 — How Tremoring Supports Tanya Inside a Job with a Global Inbox 1:15:00 — Conflict as Part of Loving Well: Stepping In, Not Around 1:21:00 — Closing Reflections Continue your journey with Neurogenic Integration 🔗 Join our live weekly classes → neurogenic-integration.com/webshop/#classes 🎓 Explore our Online TRE® Certification → neurogenic-integration.com/webshop/#cert 📍 FIND US ONLINE Neurogenic Integration: https://neurogenic-integration.com/ Instagram: @neurogenicintegration

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  • #17
    May 1 · 1 hr 12 min

    E17 - From Stillness to Shaking: Meditation, TRE, and the Body's Lead with Gabriel Kaszab

    In this episode, Alex sits down with Gabriel to explore one of the most unusual origin stories in the NI community: a meditator who came to neurogenic tremoring not through a workshop or a training, but through his own body's spontaneous intelligence. Their conversation moves through Gabriel's childhood states of effortless meditation in Romania, the schooling that gradually shut those states down, his rediscovery of deep presence through Eckhart Tolle, and the seven years he spent tremoring alone without knowing anyone else did this too. Then — what changed when he finally learned TRE existed, why he dove straight into the practitioner training, and how he now integrates tremoring with Reiki, salsa warmups, singing bowls, and light language in his sessions with clients. This is a conversation about neurogenic tremoring as more than release — as playfulness, as meditation, as a continuum that lives not just on the mat, but walking, swimming, driving, and waiting in line at the supermarket. Gabriel Kaszab is a TRE® practitioner and Reiki practitioner based in Brisbane, Australia. He came to neurogenic tremoring spontaneously through a meditation practice he developed in his thirties, and practiced privately for seven years before discovering TRE® and training as a provider. He facilitates individual and group sessions in Brisbane, integrating TRE® with Reiki, intuitive bodywork, and somatic movement. Find him at gabrielkaszab.com. ⏱ KEY HIGHLIGHTS 00:00 — Welcome & Introductions: Alex in Boulder, Gabriel in Brisbane 02:00 — Childhood in Romania: Spontaneous Meditation States That "Just Happened" 05:00 — Schooling and the Gradual Closing Down (by age 9 or 10) 06:00 — The Search Begins in His Twenties: Salsa, Photography & the Hunger for Something More 08:00 — Eckhart Tolle and the Moment of Recognition: "He Talks That Language" 10:00 — The Middle-of-the-Night Moment: First Spontaneous Tremoring 12:00 — Seven Years of Private Practice: Daily Tremoring Without a Name for It 14:00 — Coffee with Emmeline: "That Sounds Like TRE" 17:00 — What Knowing TRE Changed — and What Stayed the Same 20:00 — Diving Into the Practitioner Training: Not to Facilitate, Just to Embody 22:00 — The Varieties of Autogenic Movement: Shaking, Myofascial Flow, Pandiculation, Pulse & Mudras 29:00 — What Pandiculation Actually Is (and Why It Feels Alchemical) 32:00 — TRE as the Playfulness of Meditation 36:00 — Tremoring as a Continuum: Walking, Driving, Swimming, the Bus Stop 39:00 — Family and the Ones Who Don't Quite Get It (Yet) 41:00 — His Parents' Stories: A Mother Who Thought She Had Parkinson's, a Father Whose Vertigo Shakes Away 44:00 — Becoming a Practitioner: "I Had Nothing to Offer — And That Was the Point" 46:00 — How Intuition Opened: Sensing What's Happening in a Client's Body 49:00 — Salsa as Warmup: What Dancers Know That TRE Can Use 52:00 — Singing Bowls, Group Sessions & Entering Tremoring from a Place of Presence 54:00 — Keith Motz, Shaking Medicine & the Global Community of Shakers 57:00 — Reiki and Tremoring: Why They Work Together So Well 01:04:00 — Light Language, Intuitive Touch & Meeting People Where They Are 01:08:00 — Closing Reflection: It Doesn't Have to Be Serious. This Is Fun. 🔗 RESOURCES & LINKS MENTIONED Gabriel Kaszab — TRE® & Reiki practitioner, Brisbane: gabrielkaszab.com Emmeline — TRE provider, Australia (Gabriel's first introduction to TRE) Dr. David Berceli — Creator of TRE®: https://treglobal.org Richmond Heath — TRE provider and trainer, Australia: https://tre4you.com.au Dr. Keith Motz — Shaking Medicine & therapeutic tremoring: [link] Eckhart Tolle — The Power of Now & Stillness Speaks: https://www.eckharttolle.com Continuum Movement — Body-based somatic practice: https://continuummovement.com Ratu Bagus — Shaking meditation retreat, Bali: https://ratubagus.com Seitai Katsugen Undo — Japanese form of autogenic movement 🔗 Join our live weekly classes → https://neurogenic-integration.com/webshop/#classes 🎓 Explore our Online TRE® Certification → https://neurogenic-integration.com/webshop/#cert 📍 FIND US ONLINE Neurogenic Integration: https://neurogenic-integration.com/ Instagram: @neurogenicintegration

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  • #16
    April 17 · 50 min

    E16 - Breathwork & TRE: Where the Breath Meets the Tremor — with Mike Maher

    What does it feel like when your body starts moving before your mind has any idea why? For Mike Maher, the answer came in the basement of a hotel in Poland — lights off, a room full of strangers, thirty rhythmic breaths — and then tears, trembling, and a release he couldn't explain. That single session with Wim Hof lit a fire that eventually became the Take a Deep Breath YouTube channel, one of the largest breathwork communities on the planet, and a decade-long exploration into what breath can actually do for the human nervous system. In this episode, Alex sits down with Mike for a wide-ranging conversation about breathwork as a complete system — not a single technique, but a full toolkit for nervous system regulation. Together they trace Mike's journey from stressed corporate professional to one of the field's most trusted educators, exploring his RESET framework, what he learned from training breath holds underwater with the world record holder, the 90-day CO2 documentary he's launching, and why the simplest ancestral practices — bare feet on soil, morning light, quiet air — might carry more physiological weight than any sophisticated technique. And along the way, they wander into the territory closest to home for the NI community: the intersection of breathwork and TRE (Tension and Trauma Releasing Exercises) — and what happens when the body starts tremoring during a breath session and you finally stop fighting it. If you've ever wondered how breathwork and TRE relate, or felt both practices pulling toward the same place in the body, this conversation is for you. Mike Maher is a breathwork coach, educator, and content creator who spent 12 years in the corporate world before a sequence of transformational experiences — a Wim Hof retreat, Tony Robbins events, and walking the Camino de Santiago — set him on a different path. Drawing on a background in video production and storytelling, he built the Take A Deep Breath YouTube channel into one of the largest breathwork platforms in the world, with 300,000+ subscribers and 42 million views. His podcast has featured deep conversations with James Nestor, Patrick McKeown, Dr. Belisa Vranich, and many others at the frontier of breathing, trauma, and performance. He works with clients one-on-one, leads group programs, and teaches a full-spectrum approach that blends functional technique with nervous system science and genuine embodied practice. Mike is also currently a student in the Neurogenic Integration TRE Certification program, deepening his understanding of how neurogenic tremoring and breathwork can work together as complementary pathways to nervous system regulation. ⏱ KEY HIGHLIGHTS 00:00 — Welcome & Introductions 03:30 — Mike's Origin Story: Steve Jobs, Joe Rogan & the Road to Wim Hof 06:00 — The Poland Retreat: Tears, Trembling & an Unexplained Release 08:00 — When Wim Hof Was Making the Anxiety Worse 11:00 — The Podcast as Education: James Nestor, Patrick McKeown & Learning from the Best 13:00 — The RESET Framework: A Full Map of Breathwork in Five Categories 19:00 — Mike's Personal Learning Curve: From Oxygen Advantage to Rebirthing in a Hot Tub 22:00 — A Full Rebirthing Experience in Glastonbury 26:00 — Breath Holds, Willpower & Training with the World Record Holder 28:00 — The 90-Day CO2 Therapy Documentary: What Mike Is Testing & Why 33:00 — Ancestral Living: Earthing, Light Exposure & Things Too Simple to Ignore 40:00 — Discovering Neurogenic Tremoring 44:00 — Where Breathwork and TRE 🔗 RESOURCES & LINKS MENTIONED Mike Maher / Take A Deep Breath — YouTube, podcast & coaching: https://www.youtube.com/@TAKEADEEPBREATH http://www.takeadeepbreath.co.uk/ Wim Hof Method — Breathwork & cold exposure system: https://www.wimhofmethod.com James Nestor — Author of Breath: The New Science of a Lost Art: https://www.mrjamesnestor.com Patrick McKeown / Oxygen Advantage — Functional breathing & CO2 tolerance training: https://oxygenadvantage.com Dr. Belisa Vranich / Breathing for Warriors — Biomechanical breathwork: https://thebreathingclass.com Anders Olson / Relaxator — CO2 therapy & nasal breathing research: https://www.relaxator.com Tom Sietas — World record breath holder; freediving & breath hold training Dr. David Berceli — Creator of TRE®: https://treglobal.org Leonard Orr — Pioneer of Rebirthing breathwork Dr. Jack Kruse — Neurosurgeon; light biology & circadian health: https://jackkruse.com The Earthing Movie — Documentary on grounding & inflammation (7M+ views on YouTube) Civilized to Death — Book by Christopher Ryan Ring of Fire — 1970s documentary featuring Qi master Kevin Chang 🔗 Join our live weekly classes → https://neurogenic-integration.com/webshop/#classes 🎓 Explore our Online TRE® Certification → https://neurogenic-integration.com/webshop/#cert 📍 FIND US ONLINE Neurogenic Integration: https://neurogenic-integration.com/ Instagram: @neurogenicintegration

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  • #15
    March 20 · 55 min

    E15 - Finding Your Ground: Jonah Robins on TRE, Bioenergetics & Coming Home to Your Body

    Host Alex Greene is joined by TRE provider and somatic coach Jonah Robins for a rich conversation about what it means to come home to your body. Jonah discovered TRE in his early twenties — introduced by his father, Dr. Eric Robins, during a particularly stressful season of life. His first tremoring session stopped him in his tracks: lying on the ground, legs finally still, he felt a wave of peace travel up his spine. It was the beginning of a 12-year practice that would shift not just his nervous system, but his entire relationship with himself. Together, Alex and Jonah trace that journey — from Jonah's early freeze physiology and the slow thaw that followed, to his certification and first experiences sharing TRE with others. Jonah Robins is a TRE provider based out of Los Angeles CA. After discovering TRE in 2014, he spent several years being personally mentored by Dr David Berceli learning how to deepen the TRE process in his own body as well as with clients. Today he works with folks from all over the world helping them to embody the tremor mechanism. His work also incorporates aspects of Bioenergetics, Reichian breathwork, and Pranic Healing. The goal of his work is to help clients release the emotional, physical and energetic components of their issues so they can restore balance to their body and nervous systems. ⏱ KEY HIGHLIGHTS 00:00 — Welcome & Introductions 01:46 — How Jonah Found TRE 03:59 — First Tremoring Session 05:23 — Early Practice & Obsession 07:19 — Thawing the Freeze Response 09:48 — Meditation Meets Somatic Work 13:51 — Meeting Dr. David Berceli 19:17 — Teaching TRE in College Days 21:51 — Three Years with Dr. Berceli 26:29 — TRE for "Normal People" 31:43 — Neo-Reichian Therapy Journey 36:08 — Body Armoring & Bio-Energetics 41:37 — Spirituality & Somatic Healing 46:24 — Highly Sensitive & Spiritual Beings 52:17 — Spreading TRE Worldwide 🔗 RESOURCES & LINKS MENTIONED • Dr. David Berceli — Creator of TRE®: https://treglobal.org/ • Dr. Eric Robins — Pioneer in energy healing & energy psychology (Jonah's father) • Alexander Lowen — Founder of Bioenergetic Analysis: https://bioenergetic-analysis.com • Devaraj Sandberg — Bio-energetics & Reichian work on YouTube • Jan Sultan — Rolfing practitioner, last student of Ida Rolf • Deanna Hansen — Block Therapy (myofascial release): https://blocktherapy.com • Morton Hershkowitz — Neo-Reichian therapist, student of Wilhelm Reich • Jack Willis — Neo-Reichian Therapy for Home Use (book) https://reichiantherapy.info/book%20in%20pdf/Reich%20home%20Book.pdf • 📧 Connect with Jonah: jonahrobins@yahoo.com --- 🔗 Join our live weekly classes → https://neurogenic-integration.com/webshop/#classes 🎓 Explore our Online TRE® Certification → https://neurogenic-integration.com/webshop/#cert 📍 FIND US ONLINE Neurogenic Integration: https://neurogenic-integration.com/ Instagram: @neurogenicintegration

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  • #14
    March 6 · 42 min

    E14 - Osmosis of Life: TRE, Fascia & the Body's Natural Intelligence with Oltita Raluca Rad

    What if the key to deeper healing isn't working harder — but softening first? In this episode, host Alex Greene sits down with Oltita Raluca Rad (Tita), an Advanced TRE® Facilitator and Fascial Maneuvers practitioner from Brasov, Romania. A former accountant, Tita discovered TRE in 2019 and describes her first session as "love at first sight" — the moment she realised she wasn't a mental person after all, but a bodily one. At the core of this conversation is the powerful connection between fascia and neurogenic tremoring. After a difficult client experience, Tita explored fascial maneuvers through the Human Garage method and made a striking discovery: when the connective tissue is softened and hydrated before TRE, the tremor enters the body more gently, goes deeper, and produces significantly less dissociation, freeze, and cathartic overwhelm. Her framework is elegant: fascia is the body's receiver of information, the nervous system is the transmitter, and neurogenic tremoring is the pathway that allows information to flow — creating new neural connections, safety, and what she calls "the space of creation." Alex shares how this matches his own years of experience integrating structural integration bodywork with TRE, and both practitioners agree: the two together are more powerful than either alone. 🎧 Listen now to explore the fascia-tremor connection and what it means for healing, aging, and the body's natural intelligence. Timestamped Segments: 00:00 – Welcome & introductions 02:00 – Oltita's TRE origin story 04:00 – Leaving accounting behind 07:00 – Love at first tremor 09:00 – Certification journey insights 13:00 – Building a TRE practice 17:00 – Discovering fascial maneuvers 20:00 – Fascia softens the tremor 25:00 – Fascia as information receiver 31:00 – Mountain cliff body story 33:00 – TRE and mitochondria 37:00 – Science catching up to intuition 39:00 – Osmosis of Life community 40:00 – How to connect with Oltita 41:00 – Closing reflections Connect with Oltita: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/rad.raluca Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kosmosis.ov/ Website: https://nas.io/kosmosis-osmoza-vietii-constiente Find us Online: Neurogenic Integration: https://neurogenic-integration.com/ Instagram: @neurogenicintegration

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  • #13
    February 20 · 50 min

    E013 - How Can Neurogenic Tremoring Heal Trauma Across Cultures? TRE in East Africa with Mary Gitau

    Mary Gitau, a psychologist and suicide prevention specialist based in Nairobi, shares how she's bringing TRE (Tension and Trauma Releasing Exercises) to communities across Kenya, Somalia, Sudan, and South Sudan affected by conflict and war. She discusses her personal healing breakthrough with TRE and how body-based approaches can reach populations where traditional talk therapy cannot—particularly in cultures where men don't openly discuss emotions. This conversation explores the intersection of TRE with Somatic Experiencing, bioenergetics, and EMDR, the critical importance of cultural adaptation, and both the opportunities and challenges of making trauma healing accessible across diverse communities. In this episode, Mary shares stories of working with Somali and Sudanese men who experienced profound healing through the tremor mechanism, her journey integrating multiple somatic modalities, and practical wisdom on contextualizing TRE for different cultural settings. She also addresses the challenges of people misusing TRE through online videos and her vision for making trauma healing accessible through free group classes at her organization, the Center for Suicide Research and Intervention (CSRI). Listen to the full episode to hear Mary's inspiring journey bringing body-based trauma healing to East African communities. Links & Resources Mentioned Center for Suicide Research and Intervention (CSRI) https://csricentre.org/ Connect with Mary: LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/gitau-mary Twitter: https://x.com/Gitauwm Twitter: https://x.com/csricentre Website: https://www.csricentre.org/ Episode Timestamps 00:01 - TRE Training in Kenya with Dr. Berceli 00:04 - Childhood Trauma and Becoming a Psychologist 00:06 - Why Talk Therapy Wasn't Enough for Trauma Clients 00:09 - From Bioenergetics to Trauma Releasing Exercises 00:12 - Personal Breakthrough: Releasing Pelvic Trauma Through TRE 00:18 - First TRE Session with Somali Refugees in Nairobi 00:22 - Working with Men Who Don't Talk About Emotions 00:28 - Integrating Somatic Experiencing and TRE in Practice 00:35 - Cultural Adaptation: Avoiding Exorcism Misconceptions 00:40 - Dangers of Self-Guided TRE from Online Videos 00:45 - Making Trauma Healing Accessible and Affordable 00:47 - Teaching Children and Families TRE at Home 00:48 - Bringing TRE to Conflict Zones in East Africa

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  • #11
    February 7 · 1 hr 8 min

    E012 - Shaking Medicine with Dr. Keith Motes

    In this enlightening episode, host Alex Greene sits down with Dr. Keith Motes, founder of Shaking Medicine and a PhD in quantum physics, to explore the fascinating intersection of science, spirituality, and therapeutic tremoring. Broadcasting from Thailand, Dr. Motes shares his remarkable journey from quantum computing researcher in Australia to becoming a pioneer in teaching neurogenic tremoring. The conversation weaves through multiple lenses—from quantum physics and polyvagal theory to Kundalini yoga, Qigong, and indigenous shamanic practices of the Kalahari Bushmen. Dr. Motes reveals how his initial discovery of spontaneous movement came through a profound plant medicine experience that catalyzed his departure from academia to pursue full-time somatic healing work. Alex and Keith dive deep into the complementary relationship between psychedelic therapy and tremoring practices, discussing how embodied practitioners can better navigate medicine journeys and integrate trauma release. They explore the power of combining bodywork with neurogenic tremoring, emphasizing the importance of practitioners first embodying the work themselves. This episode offers invaluable insights for TRE practitioners, bodyworkers, and anyone interested in the deeper dimensions of somatic healing and nervous system regulation. KEY HIGHLIGHTS: 00:01:00 Introducing Dr. Keith Motes 00:04:00 Physics to Spiritual Practice 00:10:00 First DMT Plant Medicine 00:13:00 Discovery of Therapeutic Tremoring 00:18:00 Developing Shaking Medicine Practice 00:23:00 Indigenous and Shamanic Lenses 00:26:00 Kalahari Bushmen Shaking Culture 00:29:00 Kundalini and Yoga Perspectives 00:33:00 Quantum Physics and Vibration 00:40:00 Psychedelics and Tremoring Integration 00:47:00 MDMA and Trauma Access 00:53:00 Bodywork and Touch Facilitation 00:58:00 Sensing Energy and Presence 01:03:00 Games and Surrender Phases RESOURCES MENTIONED: Dr. Bradford Keeney - Work with Kalahari Bushmen: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Way-of-the-Bushman/Bradford-Keeney/9781591432050 Shaking Medicine Teacher Training: https://www.shakingmedicine.com/shaking-medicine-teacher-training Zen Shiatsu Bodywork Connect with Dr. Keith Motes: Shaking Medicine website: https://www.shakingmedicine.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/shakingmedicine/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/shakingmedicinefoundation/ Find us Online: Neurogenic Integration: https://neurogenic-integration.com/ Instagram: @neurogenicintegration

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  • #11
    Nov 7, 2025 · 51 min

    E011 - Eunju Choi on Body Wisdom and Building TRE Korea

    In this conversation, host Alex Greene sits down with Eunju Choi, founder of TRE Korea and certification trainer, to explore her remarkable journey from professional photographer to bringing trauma release work to South Korea. Eunju shares the powerful story of her first TRE session in 2014, where vivid images of Korean students, mothers, and fathers appeared in her mind, planting the seeds for what would become her life's mission. Despite having no formal credentials in the field and initial doubts about who would take trauma work from a photographer, Eunju followed her calling and watched as opportunities unfolded in unexpected ways. Alex and Eunju discuss the cultural challenges and triumphs of introducing somatic work in Korea, where academic credentials and traditional markers of success hold significant weight. Eunju shares inspiring stories of her work with diverse populations including North Korean refugees, social workers, therapists working with at-risk youth, religious communities, and even military hospital staff. The conversation touches on the importance of personal practice, the patience required to create lasting change, and the universal need for body-based healing across cultures. 🎧 Listen to the full episode to hear Eunju's complete story and gain insights into bringing trauma-informed practices to new communities! Key Highlights & Timestamps 00:00 - Episode introduction 02:02 - Eunju's background journey 02:42 - Discovering TRE modality 05:01 - Vision for Korea 06:22 - Three powerful images 07:40 - Becoming a provider 08:57 - Moving to America 10:10 - Returning to Korea 16:45 - Building TRE Korea 28:30 - North Korean refugees 35:20 - Working with communities 43:00 - Religious organizations worldwide 46:54 - Youth and military 50:20 - Closing wisdom Resources & Links Mentioned Dr. David Berceli: https://treglobal.org/about-dr-david-berceli/ TRE Korea organization: https://trekorea.com/ Soma Therapy US: http://somatherapy.us/ Find us Online: Neurogenic Integration: https://neurogenic-integration.com/ Instagram: @neurogenicintegration

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  • #10
    Oct 31, 2025 · 56 min

    E010 - Nervous System Regulation for Chronic Illness with Lindsay Wolff

    In this episode, host Alex Greene sits down with Lindsay Wolff, a certified health coach and mentor with the Primal Trust Program. Lindsay shares her powerful journey from experiencing debilitating chronic illness—including chronic fatigue, Lyme disease, and severe pain—to discovering the transformative power of nervous system regulation and somatic practices. After spending nearly a decade navigating the medical system without lasting relief, Lindsay found healing through a comprehensive approach that integrates bottom-up nervous system practices, trauma processing, and reconnection with nature. Lindsay introduces listeners to the Primal Trust framework, explaining how it differs from other brain retraining programs through its three-level curriculum that begins with foundational practices like TRE (Trauma Release Exercises), functional neurology, and breathwork before moving into deeper emotional processing and parts work. She discusses the importance of titrating these practices for sensitive nervous systems, creating safety through gradual exposure, and building capacity over time. The conversation explores how chronic illness often stems from nervous system dysregulation following stress or trauma, and how practices like neurogenic tremoring can help discharge survival energy stored in the body. Join our Upcoming Workshop: December 18, 2025 - Nervous System Regulation for Chronic Pain & Illness with Lindsay Wolff: https://neurogenic-integration.com/product/nervous-system-healing-with-primal-trust-regulation-tools-by-lindsay-wolff/ Key Highlights & Timestamps 00:00 Introduction to Lindsay 01:00 Primal Trust Overview 03:00 Lindsay's Journey Begins 04:00 Chronic Illness Algorithm 05:00 Health Crash Experience 07:00 Nature's Healing Power 09:00 Discovering TRE Practice 12:00 Body-Mind Connection Awakening 13:00 Primal Trust Explained 15:00 Bottom-Up Practices 18:00 Brain Retraining Fundamentals 21:00 Level Two Work 23:00 Hero's Journey Framework 25:00 Mentorship and Coaching 36:00 Titrating TRE Practice 42:00 Individual vs Group 46:00 Nature Connection Experience 48:00 Emotional Reservoir Concept 53:00 Workshop Preview Resources & Links Mentioned Primal Trust Program: https://www.primaltrust.org/ Dr. Cathleen King (Dr. Cath): https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-cathleen-king-dpt-951b6597 Dr. Eric Robbins: https://drericrobins.com/ DNRS (Dynamic Neural Retraining System): https://retrainingthebrain.com/ Journal Speak: https://www.yourbreakawake.com/journalspeak Dr. John Sarno: Author of "Healing Back Pain" https://www.amazon.com/Healing-Back-Pain-Mind-Body-Connection/dp/0446392308 IFS (Internal Family Systems): https://ifs-institute.com/ Red Beard Embodiment Podcast with Dr. Cathleen King https://www.redbeardsomatictherapy.com/post/podcast-e29-discovering-primal-trust-ft-dr-cathleen-king Find us Online: Neurogenic Integration: https://neurogenic-integration.com/ Instagram: @neurogenicintegration

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  • #9
    Oct 16, 2025 · 45 min

    E09 - Finding Hope Through TRE: Svava Brooks' Journey from Freeze to Freedom

    What happens when a trauma survivor discovers TRE and becomes the practitioner she needed? Alex Greene speaks with Svava Brooks, a TRE practitioner in Reykjavik, Iceland, who has mastered integrating neurogenic tremoring with mindful self-compassion and polyvagal theory. Svava didn't set out to become a provider—she entered the training for her own healing. But what she discovered transformed not only her life but her approach to holding space for others. As a complex trauma survivor in functional freeze, Svava shares practical wisdom from taking "a thousand tiny steps" into social engagement. She reveals why TRE alone wasn't enough—she needed self-compassion practices to befriend her body and build the safe attachment capacity she'd never experienced. She discusses why she teaches the "hand on heart" practice first, how to work with freeze patterns during tremoring, and why going "slower than slow" creates lasting change. Now bringing TRE to every town in Iceland, Svava offers insights on sustainable healing practices, integrating somatic work with other modalities, and creating compassionate containers where bodies feel safe to release. Key Highlights: 00:04 - Introduction and Congress Overview 03:10 - Robert Schleip on Fascia 05:29 - Fascia Responds to Stress 08:45 - Fabiana de Silva's Vagal Resets 11:17 - Self-Help Grounding Through Squeezing 12:18 - Gil Hedley's Vagus Dissection 14:01 - Sounding and Vagal Activation 18:06 - Fascia, Consciousness, and Soul 21:28 - Meeting Stephen Porges 25:32 - Traumatic Brain Injury Insights 30:00 - Liza's TRE Presentation Experience 32:51 - 100 People Experience Tremoring 40:00 - Future Congress Plans 42:40 - Sami Yoiking Healing Songs 48:34 - Human Algorithm Workshop Preview Resources Mentioned: ACE Study (Adverse Childhood Experiences Study): https://www.ajpmonline.org/article/s0749-3797(98)00017-8/pdf Polyvagal Theory: https://www.polyvagalinstitute.org/whatispolyvagaltheory Kristin Neff - Self-Compassion Research: https://self-compassion.org/the-research/ Dr. David Berceli: https://treglobal.org/about-dr-david-berceli/ Svava’s Website: https://www.svavabrooks.com/ Find us Online: Neurogenic Integration: https://neurogenic-integration.com/ Instagram: @neurogenicintegration

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  • #7
    Sep 25, 2025 · 47 min

    E07 - Multimodal Approachers: TRE, Nutrigenomics and Brain Spotting

    Host Alex Greene interviews Jo Lothian, a UK-based practitioner who combines neurogenic tremoring (TRE - Tension and Trauma Releasing Exercises), nutrigenomics, and brain spotting in her practice called The Happy Reset. Jo shares her personal history of childhood medical procedures, family dysfunction, and health challenges that led her to explore these therapeutic approaches. She will be presenting at the Masters Events Series trauma conference in Oxford (28th-30th September 2025) alongside speakers including Bessel van der Kolk and Dan Siegel. Jo explains nutrigenomics as the study of how genes and nutrition interact, describing how genetic testing can reveal variations in stress hormone processing and nervous system function. She discusses how she uses this information to guide nutritional recommendations, then combines it with neurogenic tremoring for nervous system regulation and brain spotting for trauma processing. The conversation covers her methods for integrating these modalities and her applications in areas like trauma-informed fitness training. Listen to the full episode to learn about Jo's multimodal approach to trauma healing. Key Highlights: 00:00 Introduction 02:15 Childhood medical experiences 05:40 Corporate to healing transition 09:30 Multimodal approach development 10:45 Nutrigenomics fundamentals 13:20 Genetic pathway analysis 16:30 Personal genetic discoveries 22:15 Nutritional intervention strategies 25:45 Discovering TRE work 28:20 Common client outcomes 31:15 Brain spotting introduction 34:30 Brain spotting methodology 37:45 Integrating multiple modalities 40:15 Conference presentation plans 43:20 Bridging clinical language 45:30 Future therapeutic applications Links and Resources: The Happy Reset: https://www.thehappyreset.co.uk/ Life Code GX: https://www.lifecodegx.com/ Masters Events Series: Oxford trauma conference (28th-30th September 2025): https://mastersevents.com/ TRE Providers International Forum: https://treglobal.org/ Find us Online: Neurogenic Integration: https://neurogenic-integration.com/ Instagram: @neurogenicintegration

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