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The C. Boyden Gray Center for the Administrative State

The C. Boyden Gray Center for the Administrative State, at George Mason University’s Antonin Scalia Law School, supports research and debate on the modern administrative state, and the constitutional issues surrounding it. In this podcast, we’ll discuss some of the questions being debated around modern administration — some new questions, some timeless ones. And you can also get the audio from Gray Center events.

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  • October 22 · 1 hr 13 min

    Rupert Darwall on The Age of Error and the West's Undoing

    Jace Lington speaks with Rupert Darwall about his new book, The Age of Error and the West's Undoing. In the book, Darwall argues that Western leaders doubled down on policies to fight climate change after the 2008 financial crisis, which led to a...

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  • August 7 · 47 min

    NCLA's Mark Chenoweth on the State of Injunctive Relief

    Jace Lington and Bennett Nuss talk with NCLA President and Chief Legal Officer Mark Chenoweth about the evolving landscape of injunctions in the legal system, particularly in light of recent cases likeTrump v. CASA. They explore the definition and...

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  • July 17 · 57 min

    After the Slaughter, Here's What's Cooking

    Adam White, Jace Lington, and Bennett Nuss analyze the recent Supreme Court decisions in Trump v. Slaughter and Trump v. Cook, focusing on the implications for executive power, administrative agency independence, and the future of administrative law....

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  • June 9 · 1 hr 4 min

    Judging After Loper Bright

    In this final panel from the Gray Center’s October conference, moderator Aaron Nielsen (UT Austin) speaks with Judge Naomi Rao (D.C. Circuit) and Judge Steven Menashi (Second Circuit) about their role as judges after Loper Bright ended...

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  • May 28 · 1 hr 3 min

    Antitrust Policy in a Populist Era

    The third panel discussion from the Gray Center’s Fall 2025 conference featuring: - Noah Phillips, Cravath, Swaine & Moore LLP - Matt Stoller, American Economic Liberties Project - Moderator: Senior Judge Douglas Ginsburg, D.C. Circuit

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  • May 11 · 57 min

    Chad Squitieri on the President's Role in Lawmaking

    Jace Lington and Bennett Nuss chat with Chad Squitieri about his new paper, Congress in the Mouth of a Lawyer, which focuses on the president’s role in the lawmaking process. Prof. Squittieri discusses the constitutional role of the president in...

  • March 17 · 52 min

    Caroline Cecot on EPA Changes to Cost-Benefit Analysis

    Jace Lington and Bennett Nuss chat with Caroline Cecot about how recent changes in the EPA's analytical methods affect transparency and environmental protection. She discusses the evolution of cost-benefit analysis from a deregulatory tool to a...

  • February 24 · 49 min

    Patrick McLaughlin on PLF’s Nondelegation Project

    Jace Lington and Bennett Nuss chat with Patrick A. McLaughlin about The Nondelegation Project at the Pacific Legal Foundation, which analyzes compliance with the nondelegation doctrine using AI and machine learning. He highlights the significant...

  • February 5 · 1 hr 9 min

    Reeve Bull on Achieving Regulatory Reform in Virginia

    Jace Lington chats with Reeve Bull about his experiences running Virginia’s Office of Regulatory Management. Bull discusses Virginia's recent regulatory reform efforts, highlighting the successful streamlining of regulations and the significant...

  • January 20 · 1 hr 12 min

    Ronald J. Pestritto on Government by the Unelected

    Jace Lington and Bennett Nuss chat with Hillsdale College Professor Ronald J. Pestritto about his recent article tracing the rise of the administrative state and the revolution it wrought in the federal government. Pestritto explores the evolution of...

  • January 7 · 46 min

    Jeffrey Pojanowski on the "Faces of Formalism"

    Jace Lington and Bennett Nuss chat with Notre Dame Law Professor Jeffery Pojanowski about his forthcoming paper, “Faces of Formalism.” The paper explores the complexities of formalism in legal interpretation, discussing its two faces: authority and...

  • Dec 18, 2025 · 1 hr 11 min

    The Gray Center's 2025 Year in Review

    Adam White, Jace Lington, and Bennett Nuss reflect on the significant regulatory developments of 2025, focusing on under-reported stories in the administrative state. They discuss the future of the Federal Reserve, the evolving relationships between...

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