For Heaven's Sake

Shalom Hartman Institute, Ark Media

For Heaven’s Sake is a weekly podcast presented by Ark Media and the Shalom Hartman Institute, hosted by Donniel Hartman and Yossi Klein Halevi. The podcast draws its name from the Jewish concept of machloket l’shem shemayim, “disagreeing for the sake of heaven,” which is exactly what takes place each week as Donniel and Yossi discuss the moral aspects of topics affecting Israel, world Jewry, and the future of Zionism.

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#265
Wednesday · 37 min
Israel Votes: The Haredim Are Back
With the ultra-Orthodox once again positioned as kingmakers in Israeli coalition negotiations, is this a missed opportunity for reform? Many Israelis believed the relationship between the state and the ultra-Orthodox community was headed for a fundamental reset. Instead, coalition negotiations may once again hinge on the very parties many voters hoped to sideline. Donniel Hartman and Yossi Klein Halevi examine why the Haredim remain indispensable political players, what their return could mean for military service and public policy, and whether Israel's leaders are making compromises of necessity or surrendering an opportunity for change. Together, they ask what kind of future can emerge when none of the available political choices feels satisfying. ___ Want to work for Ark Media? We're hiring an Associate Producer for Ark News Daily. Apply here! https://arkmedia.org/careers/associate-producer-ark-news-daily ___ Watch the video version of our podcast on our YouTube channel. Past episodes of this show, and other podcasts from Ark Media can be found at arkmedia.org. For more ideas from the Shalom Hartman Institute, visit shalomhartman.org, or JOIN OUR EMAIL LIST. Sponsor an upcoming episode of For Heaven’s Sake. Click here to learn more. Here’s more from the Shalom Hartman Institute this week. Learn more about the Wellspring Gap-Year Network.
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#264
November 4 · 51 min
Israel Voted: Rotten Compromises
Every path to Israel’s next government requires a deal someone swore they’d never make. Which compromises are worth it? With final results in, Donniel Hartman and Yossi Klein Halevi read the numbers (27 seats for Likud, 67 against Netanyahu) and examine every way forward: a unity government, a minority government backed by Haredi or Arab parties, or new elections. They debate the political culture Netanyahu leaves behind, what a fair deal with the ultra-Orthodox would demand, and whether asking Arab partners for new declarations is legitimate or humiliating. Through their analysis, they explore whether embracing imperfect, painful compromises can prevent national disintegration and preserve the democratic future of the Jewish people in an era of acute vulnerability. From the show: Donniel Hartman, “Dayenu: The lesson of this election,” Times of Israel, November 1, 2026 ___ Watch the video version of our podcast on our YouTube channel. Past episodes of this show, and other podcasts from Ark Media can be found at arkmedia.org. For more ideas from the Shalom Hartman Institute, visit shalomhartman.org, or JOIN OUR EMAIL LIST. Sponsor an upcoming episode of For Heaven’s Sake. Click here to learn more.
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#263
October 28 · 35 min
Israel Voted: What's Next?
Netanyahu’s coalition lost its majority. His challengers didn’t win one. Where does Israel go from here? Recorded live on election night, 30 minutes after the polls closed, Donniel Hartman and Yossi Klein Halevi react to exit polls that leave Israel deadlocked: Likud still the largest party, Gadi Eisenkot’s bloc ahead but short of 61 seats, and Arab parties at a record high. They debate Donniel’s “Torah of Dayenu” against Yossi’s insistence on accountability, weigh whether a minority government or a new partnership with Arab parties could break the stalemate, and ask how a deeply divided, deeply devoted country moves forward. ___ Watch the video version of our podcast on our YouTube channel. Past episodes of this show, and other podcasts from Ark Media can be found at arkmedia.org. For more ideas from the Shalom Hartman Institute, visit shalomhartman.org, or JOIN OUR EMAIL LIST. Sponsor an upcoming episode of For Heaven’s Sake. Click here to learn more.
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#262
October 21 · 42 min
Israel Votes: The Final Lap
Why is the most fateful election in Israel's history being met with an unprecedented absence of public passion and ideological fervor in the Israeli public square? In the last episode before the election, Donniel Hartman and Yossi Klein Halevi explore why a moment of profound national anxiety is being preceded by a deceptive, almost eerie calm on the streets and who it stands to benefit. They examine the moral stain of extremist settler violence in the West Bank and the urgent need to confront it, Donald Trump's endorsement of Benjamin Netanyahu and its potential to revive fears of war with Iran, and how Gadi Eisenkot's calm, steady disposition may prevail in a country too emotionally exhausted to embrace radical visions. Ultimately, they consider how a fractured democracy can overcome sectarian paralysis and reclaim the democratic promise of a unified Jewish homeland. ___ Watch the video version of our podcast on our YouTube channel. Past episodes of this show, and other podcasts from Ark Media can be found at arkmedia.org. For more ideas from the Shalom Hartman Institute, visit shalomhartman.org, or JOIN OUR EMAIL LIST. Sponsor an upcoming episode of For Heaven’s Sake. Click here to learn more. Here’s more from the Shalom Hartman Institute this week. Join us for the ordination ceremony of the first graduates of Rabbanut North America!
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#261
October 15 · 39 min
Israel Votes: World Jewry – The Invisible Stakeholders
Israel Votes: World Jewry – The Invisible Stakeholders Millions of Jews can't vote in Israel's election, yet so many feel their future is on the ballot. With 12 days to go, Donniel Hartman and Yossi Klein Halevi compare the election Israelis are voting in with the one Jews abroad are watching. They explore what Israelis and diaspora Jews each fear and hope for. From settler violence to a commission of inquiry, and the very different reasons both groups say, "just not Netanyahu," they ask whether Israel still understands that world Jewry is part of its own viability. ___ Watch the video version of our podcast on our YouTube channel. Past episodes of this show, and other podcasts from Ark Media can be found at arkmedia.org. For more ideas from the Shalom Hartman Institute, visit shalomhartman.org, or JOIN OUR EMAIL LIST. Sponsor an upcoming episode of For Heaven’s Sake. Click here to learn more. Here’s more from the Shalom Hartman Institute this week: Vote in the Signal Listener’s Choice Awards for our podcast mini-series Thoughts and Prayers by October 15! Register to learn with Tal Becker and Abigail Pogrebin on October 27 in NYC.
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#260
October 14 · 30 sec
Scheduling Note on this Week's Episode: October 14, 2026
Hello For Heaven’s Sake listeners. We are adjusting our publishing schedule this week, and you won’t see an episode in your feed today. Please make sure you are subscribed to us wherever you get your podcasts, so new episodes download automatically as soon as they are released. Thank you for listening to For Heaven's Sake. ___ Watch the video version of our podcast on our YouTube channel. Past episodes of this show, and other podcasts from Ark Media can be found at arkmedia.org. For more ideas from the Shalom Hartman Institute, visit shalomhartman.org, or JOIN OUR EMAIL LIST. Sponsor an upcoming episode of For Heaven’s Sake. Click here to learn more.
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#259
October 9 · 7 min
3 Big Changes at Ark Media
Dan Senor and Ark Media CEO Ilan Benatar announce Ark+, our expanded membership; The Fold, our new private community; and the network's newest show, Chosen People Problems. In the episode: 0:00 Announcement 1:41 Introducing Ark+ 2:29 Meet Chosen People Problems 5:05 A first look at The Fold Join Ark+ and The Fold. https://arkmedia.org/subscribe
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#258
October 7 · 40 min
It's Still October 7
When does October 7 stop feeling like the present? Three years to the day after the Hamas attack, Donniel Hartman and Yossi Klein Halevi face an uncomfortable truth: for Israelis, October 7 is not a memory but a lens. Starting from last week's foiled attempt to crash a passenger plane bound for Tel Aviv, they debate what it means to live a hair's breadth from catastrophe. They ask why the shock of 1973 sparked movements for change while this one has bred fatalism, how that fatalism is shaping Israel's election, and why Israel and the rest of the world now seem to be living in different time zones. From the episode: "Israel must defend itself — without defending the indefensible," Donniel Hartman, Times of Israel, October 5, 2026 ___ Watch the video version of our podcast on our YouTube channel. Past episodes of this show, and other podcasts from Ark Media can be found at arkmedia.org. For more ideas from the Shalom Hartman Institute, visit shalomhartman.org, or JOIN OUR EMAIL LIST. Sponsor an upcoming episode of For Heaven’s Sake. Click here to learn more. Here’s more from the Shalom Hartman Institute this week: Register for Jewish Storytelling at a Time of Extremism with Yossi Klein Halevi and Yardena Schwartz.
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#257
September 30 · 37 min
We Were Warned About October 7; Why Didn't We Listen?
Why did Israel, one of the most sophisticated military and intelligence powers in the world, repeatedly ignore explicit, urgent warnings about an impending national catastrophe? As the anniversary of October 7 approaches, Donniel Hartman and Yossi Klein Halevi explore the profound institutional failure, psychological denial, and national trauma surrounding the unheeded intelligence warnings before the traumatic attack. They examine the Israeli military's long-standing belief that Gaza was an uncapturable trap, how societal exhaustion after the Second Intifada fueled a collective refusal to address the Palestinian issue, and the political hubris that treated high-tech border barriers as a substitute for strategic vision. They challenge global Jewish discourse to embrace intellectual honesty when confronting the complex realities of modern Jewish sovereignty and to initiate long-term political solutions rather than wait for the next inevitable crisis. _____ RSVP to Ark Media's October 5th Virtual Announcement Event: https://arkmedia.org/rsvp/ _____ This episode sponsored by Kim Shafer and Isaac Finkle. Watch the video version of our podcast on our YouTube channel. Past episodes of this show, and other podcasts from Ark Media can be found at arkmedia.org. For more ideas from the Shalom Hartman Institute, visit shalomhartman.org, or JOIN OUR EMAIL LIST. Sponsor an upcoming episode of For Heaven’s Sake. Click here to learn more. Here’s more from the Shalom Hartman Institute this week: Register here for the Hartman Leadership Conference in San Francisco.
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#256
September 23 · 41 min
Israel Votes: And What if it's Deadlocked?
Can a society battered by years of political polarization and existential war survive an election cycle where no political faction can achieve instant victory? As critical polling deadlines approach, Donniel Hartman and Yossi Klein Halevi confront the sobering reality of Israel's impending political stalemate. They discuss the psychological barriers preventing major political blocs from entering national unity arrangements, the host-specific red lines separating unpalatable political partners from genuine existential threats to Israeli democracy, and the feasibility of a short-term minority government designed to pass foundational reforms before calling a new vote. By examining the deep philosophical tension between grievance-based politics and aspirational governance, they offer an insightful assessment of how political compromise functions as the vital oxygen of Israeli coalition life. Watch the video version of our podcast on our YouTube channel. Past episodes of this show, and other podcasts from Ark Media can be found at arkmedia.org. For more ideas from the Shalom Hartman Institute, visit shalomhartman.org, or JOIN OUR EMAIL LIST. Sponsor an upcoming episode of For Heaven’s Sake. Click here to learn more. Here’s more from the Shalom Hartman Institute this week: High school seniors: learn more about and apply to our Hevruta Gap-Year Program!
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#255
September 16 · 43 min
Naza: When a Film is the News
Can a provocative film transform into an unshakeable weapon in the global battle over Israel's moral legitimacy? In this episode, Donniel Hartman and Yossi Klein Halevi dissect the intense cultural and political fallout surrounding "Naza," the award-winning Venice Film Festival documentary that accuses Israel of systematically embracing disproportionate civilian deaths in Gaza. From the surreal spectacle of the film's record-breaking 25-minute standing ovation in Europe to sweeping indictments and unverifiable soldier testimony, they confront how the film alienates Israeli society rather than fosters genuine moral self-reflection during the High Holiday season of teshuvah. In the process, they discuss how the total erasure of Hamas's battlefield presence distorts Western understanding of asymmetric urban warfare. Mentioned in the show: "The ICJ's Pernicious Plan to Redefine Genocide," by Orde F. Kittrie and Andrés B. Muñoz-Mosquera, September 13, 2026, WSJ Opinion “Full speech: Ed Miliband says entire occupation unlawful, slams ‘settler terrorists’ and Israeli government that indulges them,” by British Foreign Secretary Ed Miliband, September 8, 2026, Times of Israel
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#254
September 9 · 38 min
Israel Votes: New Year, New Hopes
How can a society deeply divided by electoral deadlock find the collective moral courage to choose democratic renewal over perpetual crisis? In this Rosh Hashanah episode, Donniel Hartman and Yossi Klein Halevi set aside the reactive mode of recent years to name their realistic hopes for Israel: the return of truth to public life, a moral reckoning with settler violence in the West Bank, and the quiet shifts stirring in the Haredi and Arab sectors. Grounded in the High Holiday belief that what once was isn't necessarily what must be, this is a hopeful yet clear-eyed look at the year ahead. Shana Tova. Watch the video version of our podcast on our YouTube channel. Past episodes of this show, and other podcasts from Ark Media can be found at arkmedia.org. For more ideas from the Shalom Hartman Institute, visit shalomhartman.org, or JOIN OUR EMAIL LIST. Sponsor an upcoming episode of For Heaven’s Sake. Click here to learn more.
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#253
September 2 · 42 min
Israel's Election: What Do Israelis Really Want?
Why does Israeli political life appear hopelessly frozen at the top even as tectonic shifts stir beneath the surface? In this episode, Donniel Hartman and Yossi Klein Halevi examine the looming Israeli elections, the persistent mathematical stalemate between major political blocs, and the tired defensive tactics driving Benjamin Netanyahu’s campaign. They investigate the fragmentation of the right wing following Ofer Winter’s entry into the race, the demise of small vanity parties failing to clear the threshold, and the emerging revolutions within both the Haredi and Arab-Israeli sectors. Watch the video version of our podcast on our YouTube channel. Past episodes of this show, and other podcasts from Ark Media can be found at arkmedia.org. For more ideas from the Shalom Hartman Institute, visit shalomhartman.org, or JOIN OUR EMAIL LIST. Sponsor an upcoming episode of For Heaven’s Sake. Click here to learn more. Here’s more from the Shalom Hartman Institute this week: Register for The Road to the Israeli Elections on September 8.
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#252
August 26 · 40 min
Israel’s Election Season: The Opening Shot (Re-release)
What do four political earthquakes in a single week – as the Knesset is on the brink of dissolving – reveal about the election that will define Israel's future? In this episode, Donniel Hartman and Yossi Klein Halevi open Israel's election season by mapping the upheaval: the sudden formation of new parties, Gadi Eisenkot's rise to rival Likud as Naftali Bennett fades, a blitz of contentious legislation, and a government openly declaring it will defy the Supreme Court. Together they ask what Israelis actually want and whether this moment marks the true end of the Netanyahu era. A clear-eyed guide to the opening shot of the most consequential election in years. This episode originally aired on July 8, 2026. ---- Watch the video version of our podcast on our YouTube channel. Past episodes of this show, and other podcasts from Ark Media can be found at arkmedia.org. For more ideas from the Shalom Hartman Institute, visit shalomhartman.org, or JOIN OUR EMAIL LIST. Sponsor an upcoming episode of For Heaven’s Sake. Click here to learn more. Here’s more from the Shalom Hartman Institute this week: College students, apply now for the 2026 Edward Fein Winter Student Seminar!
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#251
August 19 · 44 min
Why are Young Jews Turning Against Israel? - with Yossi Klein Halevi and Sara Labaton
Can the Jewish people hold on to moral tradition in the era of Jewish power? In this special episode—recorded live in the courtyard of the Shalom Hartman Institute's Jerusalem campus on July 14, 2026, at the Institute's Wellspring Summit for Educators—Yossi Klein Halevi joins Sara Labaton, Director of Teaching and Learning at the Shalom Hartman Institute of North America for a candid conversation on Jewish anti-Zionism, the Israel–American Jewish divide, and the crisis of Jewish memory. Together, they reflect on power, victimhood, and what we owe the next generation of Jewish learners. Watch the video version of our podcast on our YouTube channel. Past episodes of this show, and other podcasts from Ark Media can be found at arkmedia.org. For more ideas from the Shalom Hartman Institute, visit shalomhartman.org, or JOIN OUR EMAIL LIST. Sponsor an upcoming episode of For Heaven’s Sake. Click here to learn more.
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#250
August 12 · 57 min
Humanness: From Mensch to Warrior
What happens to our humanity when fear takes hold? In this special summer episode, recorded live in the Beit Midrash of the Shalom Hartman Institute's Jerusalem campus during our Community Leadership Program, Donniel Hartman delivers a solo lecture on the journey from “mensch” to “warrior." He dissects the Jewish tradition's ambivalent view of human nature, the methodology of mitzvah as training for decency, and the IDF Code of Ethics now under pressure after October 7. A thought-provoking meditation on vulnerability, moral instincts, and whether a people with power can remain a people of conscience. For the source sheet that accompanies this lecture: https://shalomhartman.org/wp-content/uploads/2026/07/Hartman_D_Humaness-from-Mensch-to-Warrior_CLP-2_Plenary_Jul-2-2026-1.pdf Watch the video version of our podcast on our YouTube channel. Past episodes of this show, and other podcasts from Ark Media can be found at arkmedia.org. For more ideas from the Shalom Hartman Institute, visit shalomhartman.org, or JOIN OUR EMAIL LIST. Sponsor an upcoming episode of For Heaven’s Sake. Click here to learn more. Here’s more from the Shalom Hartman Institute this week: Watch select sessions from our summer learning in Jerusalem.
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#249
August 5 · 1 hr 19 min
The Post October 7 Jew
How do the Jewish people reclaim our story when our very right to self-defense is under global assault? In this special episode, recorded live at the Shalom Hartman Institute’s Community Leadership Program in June, Yossi Klein Halevi sits down with author and former White House speechwriter Sarah Hurwitz for the annual Michelle Gary z”l Memorial Lecture. Together, they dissect the 80-year arc of post-Holocaust Jewish recovery, how the framing of "oppressor vs. oppressed" distorts the complex reality of Middle Eastern history, and the moral dilemmas inherent in wielding hard national power in a post-October 7 world. Watch the video version of our podcast on our YouTube channel. Past episodes of this show, and other podcasts from Ark Media can be found at arkmedia.org. For more ideas from the Shalom Hartman Institute, visit shalomhartman.org, or JOIN OUR EMAIL LIST. Sponsor an upcoming episode of For Heaven’s Sake. Click here to learn more.
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#248
July 29 · 47 min
Israel's Elections: Judaism on the Ballot
How does a Jewish state navigate its future when the most fiercely contested issue at the ballot box is the definition of Judaism itself? In this episode, Donniel Hartman and Yossi Klein Halevi dissect the profound ways religion is shaping Israel's upcoming elections. They explore the Likud's historical transformation into enablers of the ultra-Orthodox, the messianic fervor driving the settlement movement, and the opposition's attempt to reclaim a broad, inclusive Jewish identity. ---- Watch the video version of our podcast on our YouTube channel. Past episodes of this show, and other podcasts from Ark Media can be found at arkmedia.org. For more ideas from the Shalom Hartman Institute, visit shalomhartman.org, or JOIN OUR EMAIL LIST. Sponsor an upcoming episode of For Heaven’s Sake. Click here to learn more. Here’s more from the Shalom Hartman Institute this week: Learn more about our Wellspring programming for young Jews and the professionals who serve them.
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#247
July 22 · 31 min
Iran and My Summer Vacation
What happens to a nation's psyche when the basic need to breathe is blocked by the geopolitical reality of an endless war? In this episode, Donniel Hartman and Yossi Klein Halevi explore this dreamlike summer interlude where Israeli life appears suspended between political campaign trails and impending regional conflict. They parse the deep frustration of a public realizing that its historic moment of deterrence may have slipped away, the dangerous escalations threatening international shipping lanes and neighboring countries, and an unsteady order where tactical firefighting has replaced genuine strategy. ____ Watch the video version of our podcast on our YouTube channel. Past episodes of this show, and other podcasts from Ark Media can be found at arkmedia.org. For more ideas from the Shalom Hartman Institute, visit shalomhartman.org, or JOIN OUR EMAIL LIST. Sponsor an upcoming episode of For Heaven’s Sake. Click here to learn more. Here’s more from the Shalom Hartman Institute this week: Learn here how Siach helps young Jews grapple with big questions.
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#246
July 16 · 41 min
Israel's Elections: The Change We Hope For
Is it possible to rebuild a shared national vision when a society remains deeply traumatized and divided over its own moral obligations? In this episode, Donniel Hartman and Yossi Klein Halevi examine the newly announced October election date and look beyond immediate legislative battles to articulate the change they truly hope for. They dissect the urgent structural need to undo mass ultra-Orthodox military exemptions, explore how to restore national accountability through an independent commission of inquiry into October 7th, and confront the total breakdown of principled moral discourse in the public square. Rather than focusing purely on political survival, they lay out a framework centered on repairing systemic damage, restoring civic responsibility, and reclaiming long-term vision. ____ Watch the video version of our podcast on our YouTube channel. Past episodes of this show, and other podcasts from Ark Media can be found at arkmedia.org. For more ideas from the Shalom Hartman Institute, visit shalomhartman.org, or JOIN OUR EMAIL LIST. Sponsor an upcoming episode of For Heaven’s Sake. Click here to learn more.
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