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Firewall with Bradley Tusk

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Politics, technology and the pursuit of happiness. Twice a week, Bradley Tusk, New York-based political strategist and venture investor, covers the collision between new ideas and the real world. His operating thesis is that you can't understand tech today without understanding politics, too. Recorded at P&T Knitwear, his bookstore / podcast studio, 180 Orchard Street, New York City.

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Yesterday · 51 min
Dario’s No Luke Skywalker
So that likable, conscientious CEO warning that AI could kill us all — is he still going to be so likable and conscientious if his stock price falls off a cliff? Let’s take that off the table, argues Bradley: Until we know how to manage AI, Anthropic should not go public. As for Trump letting tech CEOs police themselves, well, that’s only going to further poison popular opinion and make data centers harder to build. Plus, the Times' 100 biggest questions in science is the Gray Lady at her best; the war in Iran has turned a boring industry into a juggernaut; why the oldest, tiredest brand imaginable could make for a perfect pop-up; and an impassioned endorsement of Digger, the Tom Cruise movie critics hated, because it’s actually about something important. This episode was taped at P&T Knitwear at 180 Orchard Street — New York City’s only free podcast recording studio. Send us an email with your thoughts on today’s episode: info@firewall.media. Subscribe to Bradley's weekly newsletter and follow Bradley on Linkedin + Substack.
Thursday · 1 hr 1 min
"I'm Not Good at Doing Nothing"
What would you do with a year devoted to getting good at one thing? Ravi Gupta, good friend of the pod, is back on Firewall to talk about his new book, The Invisible List, in which he argues for chasing one new passion every year, no matter how busy or stuck you feel. He and Bradley talk about tennis as a midlife balm, the surprising difficulty of making risotto, the secret greatness of Western New York, dinner parties where every guest confesses a meaningful failure and why hobbies are cool. "Hobbies," says Gupta, "are how you meet your friends, your significant others. It's how you inspire your kids. It's how you show your wife or your husband that you're sexy." This episode was taped at P&T Knitwear at 180 Orchard Street — New York City’s only free podcast recording studio. Send us an email with your thoughts on today’s episode: info@firewall.media. Subscribe to Bradley's weekly newsletter and follow Bradley on Linkedin + Substack.
September 29 · 1 hr 3 min
What Good is a Fun Mayor?
What New York really needs is a City Hall that nails the normie stuff: getting the homeless off the streets, fighting crime and fixing the budget. Plus, Bradley explains why nobody should feel compelled to abide by strict religious rules, argues that declaring martial law on Election Day would only hasten Trump's downfall, and gives a hearty plug to Ari Emanuel's memoir. This episode was taped at P&T Knitwear at 180 Orchard Street — New York City’s only free podcast recording studio. Send us an email with your thoughts on today’s episode: info@firewall.media. Subscribe to Bradley's weekly newsletter and follow Bradley on Linkedin + Substack.
September 24 · 53 min
Phoniness Is the Only Unforgivable Sin
How big of a blue wave should we expect next month? Sheila Nix, CEO of Tusk Philanthropies and veteran of three presidential campaigns, tells Bradley that the House is a done deal for the Democrats, while arguing that Chuck Schumer's smartest move would be to win the majority and then walk away. Together, they dig into how voters forgive crazy but never phony, why AOC's path to the nomination is more plausible than the dinner-party crowd admits, and whether Trump actually cares about the midterms. Plus, they review the Tusk Philanthropies agenda, including recent developments in mobile voting, school meals and shield laws for abortion providers. This episode was taped at P&T Knitwear at 180 Orchard Street — New York City’s only free podcast recording studio. Send us an email with your thoughts on today’s episode: info@firewall.media. Subscribe to Bradley's weekly newsletter and follow Bradley on Linkedin + Substack.
September 22 · 51 min
A Who's Who of Accretors and Extractors
Among tech titans, there is an invisible line dividing those who add something meaningful to our society and those who are merely extracting value for their own benefit. Bradley reviews the roster of Jobs, Musk, Bezos, Zuckerberg, Altman and more. Plus, will the e-bike tragedy in the East Village force Mayor Mamdani to do the right thing, does standing in line bring New Yorkers together, what Bill Simmons could bring to the LA Clippers and why 'Exit Party' by Emily St. John Mandel is the book to read right now. This episode was taped at P&T Knitwear at 180 Orchard Street — New York City’s only free podcast recording studio. Send us an email with your thoughts on today’s episode: info@firewall.media. Subscribe to Bradley's weekly newsletter and follow Bradley on Linkedin + Substack.
September 17 · 50 min
Nobody Ever Misses Their Chance at Life
When Zibby Owens, author of the forthcoming Between Chapters: How I Started Over, Took Some Chances, and Found the Plot, was at her lowest point, she started taking baby steps toward what would turn into a bustling mini-empire, built in and around the publishing business. Bradley talks to Zibby about how it all came together. On starting from nothing: "I recorded a podcast into my phone sitting on the edge of my bed. And was like, I'm not even going to tell anyone I'm doing this." On her publishing thesis: "I wanted to make every author a lead title. We want to put the resources behind each one ... I didn't want to be a printer. I wanted to be a partner." On her new book: "It is intended to be the same as going to coffee with a good friend." On owning a bookstore: ""I feel like I've created a community center that also sells books." On what it all means: "I felt like I missed my chance in life. And I've realized that nobody ever misses their chance at life... you may feel incredibly stuck, but you have the power to find yourself." This episode was taped at P&T Knitwear at 180 Orchard Street — New York City’s only free podcast recording studio. Send us an email with your thoughts on today’s episode: info@firewall.media. Subscribe to Bradley's weekly newsletter and follow Bradley on Linkedin + Substack.
September 15 · 1 hr 5 min
How Hyperscalers Can Save The World From Themselves
Now that AI risk has jumped from theoretical to totally real and frightening, Bradley lays out a five-point plan for what OpenAI and Anthropic should do if they're serious about safety: disclose everything about how they're developing their products, draw real distinctions between what the technology can do and what people actually need, enact unilateral safety measures like kill switches and independent evaluators, aggressively push for robust regulation and — the big one — postpone their IPOs until the risk is under control. This episode was taped at P&T Knitwear at 180 Orchard Street — New York City’s only free podcast recording studio. Send us an email with your thoughts on today’s episode: info@firewall.media. Subscribe to Bradley's weekly newsletter and follow Bradley on Linkedin + Substack.
September 10 · 49 min
"We Warned You"
That's what the framers would say if they popped out of a time machine and saw our politics today, argues John Opdycke. From the start, they cautioned against political parties. Forty-one percent of the country now identifies as independent, yet closed primaries in states like New York lock them out of the elections that actually decide who governs. Opdycke, who runs a group called Open Primaries, talks to Bradley about the effect nonpartisan primaries have had in California, why he's suing to overturn closed primaries in Maryland, Pennsylvania, and Oregon, and how the DSA and New York's entrenched party establishment — despite hating each other — both benefit from keeping turnout low. The fight isn't ideological, he and Bradley agree, it's all about power. This episode was taped at P&T Knitwear at 180 Orchard Street — New York City’s only free podcast recording studio. Send us an email with your thoughts on today’s episode: info@firewall.media. Subscribe to Bradley's weekly newsletter and follow Bradley on Linkedin + Substack.
September 8 · 47 min
Data Centers Are a Political Kickball
But are Americans really upset about them — or something much larger? The data-center fury, Bradley argues in today's episode and in his recent Substack, reflects humankind’s inability to cope with the ever accelerating pace of technological change. Plus, why Mayor Mamdani's penchant for taking political gambles will eventually cost him, a happy-ending story of how a lost dog brought out the best in New Yorkers, and a summer's worth of food, travel and cultural recommendations. This episode was taped at P&T Knitwear at 180 Orchard Street — New York City’s only free podcast recording studio. Send us an email with your thoughts on today’s episode: info@firewall.media. Subscribe to Bradley's weekly newsletter and follow Bradley on Linkedin + Substack.
August 21 · 51 min
Fear Is Not Going To Save Us From AI [REPOST]
But a concrete economic plan for extreme job losses just might. In this repost from an episode first released in June, Daniel Schreiber, CEO of Lemonade and founder of the MOSAIC AI Policy Institute, joins Bradley to make a surprisingly hopeful case. The enormous wealth generated by AI can be captured and redistributed in a way that leaves almost everyone better off, he argues, without raising taxes, punishing innovation, or trusting politicians with a slush fund. "Poverty should end in the era of abundance," says Schreiber. "It should simply end." This episode was taped at P&T Knitwear at 180 Orchard Street — New York City’s only free podcast recording studio. Send us an email with your thoughts on today’s episode: info@firewall.media. Subscribe to Bradley's weekly newsletter and follow Bradley on Linkedin + Substack.
August 13 · 37 min
What You Can Learn from a Great Spy Novel
Bradley talks to Michael Idov, author of The Cormorant Hunt, about how his own life — coming to the US from Latvia at age 16, running a café on the Lower East Side into the ground, getting discovered by Nora Ephron and moving to Moscow as editor of GQ Russia — feeds his fiction, as well as the passage from his novel that turned Bradley into a superfan: "The left-right distinction, he kept having to remind himself, no longer applied. The only existential standoff now was between the people who wanted to replace institutions with better institutions and the people who wanted to replace institutions with themselves." This episode was taped at P&T Knitwear at 180 Orchard Street — New York City’s only free podcast recording studio. Send us an email with your thoughts on today’s episode: info@firewall.media. Subscribe to Bradley's weekly newsletter and follow Bradley on Linkedin + Substack.
August 11 · 56 min
21 Reasons for Hope
If you write out a list of bad things happening in the world right now, it's easy to feel the apocalypse closing in on us. To counteract that kind of negative thinking, Bradley makes a list of the most important things about the world that are improving, including breakthroughs in medicine and gene editing, falling murder and opioid death rates, record US charitable giving, clean energy advances, and steep declines in global extreme poverty and child mortality. All in all, Bradley believes, there is more than enough encouraging news to keep hope alive. This episode was taped at P&T Knitwear at 180 Orchard Street — New York City’s only free podcast recording studio. Send us an email with your thoughts on today’s episode: info@firewall.media. Subscribe to Bradley's weekly newsletter and follow Bradley on Linkedin + Substack.
August 6 · 35 min
"The Most Dangerous Thing You Can Do is Nothing"
What can be done to preserve the value of learning in the age of AI? Bradley sits down with Adam Chilton, the dean of University of Chicago Law School, to discuss his vision for fortifying legal education. Chilton argues that critical thinking and judgment, the muscles built by Socratic teaching, are the skills AI can't easily replace. But at the same time, students need training in applying AI in the workplace. "We cannot put the toothpaste back in the tube," says Chilton, "nor can you prohibit your students from having access to them." This episode was taped at P&T Knitwear at 180 Orchard Street — New York City’s only free podcast recording studio. Send us an email with your thoughts on today’s episode: info@firewall.media. Subscribe to Bradley's weekly newsletter and follow Bradley on Linkedin + Substack.
August 4 · 50 min
“Finally, I Feel Peace”
Bradley returns from a week-long stay at the Hoffman Institute, an intensive personal-development program that he calls “the single most helpful experience I’ve ever had.” He explains how it reframed his understanding of childhood patterns, self-criticism, and emotional healing, including a cathartic exercise that drew out an important lesson. "We literally drew a picture of our dark side on a poster board," he says, "and then took a shoe and beat the sh-t out of the poster for 45 minutes. Destroying the drawing illustrates that our dark side is a creation of our own minds and patterns, which means we can change them." This episode was taped at P&T Knitwear at 180 Orchard Street — New York City’s only free podcast recording studio. Send us an email with your thoughts on today’s episode: info@firewall.media. Subscribe to Bradley's weekly newsletter and follow Bradley on Linkedin + Substack.
July 24 · 1 hr 6 min
Live at P&T: Where Are Democracy’s Lifeboats?
Harvard Law professor Lawrence Lessig joined Bradley for a live event last month at P&T Knitwear, co-hosted by Teddy Himler of Optimist Ventures, about the two most fundamental threats to American democracy and what to do about them. Lessig, founder of EqualCitizens.US and author of numerous books on copyright, technology, and political corruption, makes a surprisingly hopeful case that Super PACs can and will be ended without overturning Citizens United. Bradley makes his argument for mobile voting as the only scalable fix for low-turnout primaries that boost extremists in both parties. The two agree on a particular culprit — an engagement-based media economy that profits from turning Americans into "ignorant people who hate each other." Lessig offers the Titanic as a useful metaphor: If there's "a gash in the hull," don't waste your time clearing ice off the deck. This is a full-blown emergency and we need lifeboats. This episode was taped at P&T Knitwear at 180 Orchard Street — New York City’s only free podcast recording studio. Send us an email with your thoughts on today’s episode: info@firewall.media. Subscribe to Bradley's weekly newsletter and follow Bradley on Linkedin + Substack.
July 21 · 52 min
The Secret to Writing Is Editing
Bradley shares his ten rules for writing well, starting with the most important: get it down fast and spend almost all your time editing. Plus: why the annual outrage over admissions to New York's most selective public schools keeps missing the point; how Governor Hochul's data center moratorium will play out, and what Bradley is doing on his non-vacation in the Canadian Rockies. This episode was taped at P&T Knitwear at 180 Orchard Street — New York City’s only free podcast recording studio. Send us an email with your thoughts on today’s episode: info@firewall.media. Subscribe to Bradley's weekly newsletter and follow Bradley on Linkedin + Substack.
July 16 · 54 min
The Vibe Jive
Was MAGA's cultural dominance ever real, or was it always partly a joint hallucination of self-aggrandizing Republicans and self-lacerating liberals? David Wallace-Wells, opinion columnist for the New York Times, joins Bradley to argue that the vibe shift, to the extent it ever existed, has reversed itself. Trump's approval ratings are in freefall, his celebration of the nation's 250th birthday was a farce and the war against Iran is turning into a quagmire. But can Democrats seize the advantage? "When I look around and I'm like, you know, I find some of these leaders appealing rhetorically, politically," says Wallace-Wells. "But I'm like, what is the program they're proposing here? If it comes to pass that the Democrats even have a trifecta — what even would they try to do?" This episode was taped at P&T Knitwear at 180 Orchard Street — New York City’s only free podcast recording studio. Send us an email with your thoughts on today’s episode: info@firewall.media. Subscribe to Bradley's weekly newsletter and follow Bradley on Linkedin + Substack.
July 14 · 46 min
The Case for Grace
What if the secret to happiness is as simple as learning to extend a little more grace? Bradley argues that every unnecessary judgment — of your own behavior, of other people's choices, of all the ways the world fails to meet your standards — creates small negative emotions that accumulate into a dark psychic cloud. Showing grace dispels that cloud. Plus, Bradley sketches out the highly unlikely but increasingly plausible sequence of events that topples the Trump administration and also explains how he fell in love with Stockholm on a recent trip abroad. This episode was taped at P&T Knitwear at 180 Orchard Street — New York City’s only free podcast recording studio. Send us an email with your thoughts on today’s episode: info@firewall.media. Subscribe to Bradley's weekly newsletter and follow Bradley on Linkedin + Substack.
July 9 · 17 min
LIVE FROM P&T: The Astonishing Depolarizing Power of Dogs
In this special taping in front of a live audience on the Lower East Side, Bradley hosts his niece Ellie Gottheimer, daughter of Rep. Josh Gottheimer, and Larra Mullin, daughter of Homeland Security Secretary Markwayne Mullin, to discuss their new children's book Shmoo & Ozzie Go to Washington, which imparts an important message about bipartisanship and democracy — through the story of two dogs. This episode was taped at P&T Knitwear at 180 Orchard Street — New York City’s only free podcast recording studio. Send us an email with your thoughts on today’s episode: info@firewall.media. Subscribe to Bradley's weekly newsletter and follow Bradley on Linkedin + Substack.
July 7 · 43 min
The Riddle of Knowing What You Don't Know
Fresh from celebrating his mother's 80th birthday in Paris, Bradley reflects on what makes the city so breathtakingly beautiful while also declaring it mightily overrated as a food city. Then he tackles one of the trickiest conundrums in business and life. Drawing lessons from business, politics and parenting, he argues that while not knowing what you don't know is obviously dangerous, knowing what you don't know and deferring to the wrong experts can often be just as costly. This episode was taped at P&T Knitwear at 180 Orchard Street — New York City’s only free podcast recording studio. Send us an email with your thoughts on today’s episode: info@firewall.media. Subscribe to Bradley's weekly newsletter and follow Bradley on Linkedin + Substack.

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