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Fire and Soul

Michelle Sorro

Fire and Soul is a top 1% globally ranked podcast hosted by Michelle Sorro, where practical mysticism meets embodied leadership. Featuring intimate conversations with visionary teachers, mystics, scientists, and cultural leaders exploring how awakening unfolds in real life through our bodies, relationships, work, and purpose. Come fully alive.

Only conversations that matter. The ones that call us deeper into our gifts, our service, and the truth of who we are. That meet the real questions of this moment without losing ourselves.

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#286
August 25 · 1 hr 33 min
Can You Hold What You’re Asking For? Money, Love, Time & the Capacity to Live an Extraordinary Life with Marla Mattenson
We're back! It's been a couple of months since I put out an episode, and I wanted to come back with a conversation that actually earned the wait. What does a woman who charges $250,000 to work with her actually know about receiving an extraordinary life? Turns out it's not about having the answers. It's about how much life you can actually let yourself hold. Marla is my friend, and an ultra-high-end life and business coach. But this isn't a conversation about pricing. It's about what it actually takes, internally and energetically, to receive more. More money. More visibility. More truth. More love. Wanting more and being able to receive more are not the same thing. You can ask for wealth and find out what receiving it brings up in you. Ask for love and find the exact place intimacy threatens your defenses. Ask for impact and find out what happens when you're misunderstood. What Marla shares isn't what you'd expect. Yes, there's real beauty in it, real abundance. There's also a woman telling you about a time she collapsed into a fetal position. Crying. Going into a freeze so complete she lost her words. She asked her most successful former clients, point blank, what hadn't worked between them. One told her she'd felt transactional instead of human. It hit her hard. She had to sit with that recording more than once before she could really take it in. This is leadership without the performance of certainty. The willingness to see your own distortion, stay with what it reveals, and let it change you. An extraordinary life doesn't mean you stop contracting. It means you stop staying gone so long. Here's what we get into: Her foundation: years of Vipassana, a mentor relationship that broke open her financial set points, and study with Paul Selig and the Melchizedek Guides "What's your warp?" — the distortion each of us looks through, and why the goal is recognizing it, not eliminating it What you damn, damns you back. What you bless, blesses you back All feedback is love, and the practice she built to actually receive it Why she and her partner Julian live by a "no blades" rule Being unreasonable on purpose: how Marla thinks about pricing, worth, and the upper limits most of us don't even know we're bumping against What gets more valuable, not less, as AI reshapes business: intuition, discernment, staying in relationship with yourself when it's uncomfortable Her closing words to you, whoever you are, wherever you're listening: you're doing it perfectly. If this leaves you wondering where unconscious patterns are getting in your way, Marla built a free 8-question quiz to name your biggest block in money, love, or time, and what to do about it. Start at BeaconsGlobal.com. You'll get first access to her masterclass this September. Connect with Michelle Website: michelle-sorro.com Instagram: @michellesorro LinkedIn: Michelle Sorro Connect with Marla Website + free Money, Love or Time quiz: BeaconsGlobal.com Instagram: @marlamattenson LinkedIn: Marla Mattenson Before you go: what’s your warp? Send me a message and let me know what came up for you in this one. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
#286
June 2 · 1 hr 5 min
The Holy Undoing with Natasha Pampin Perimenopause, Menopause, Somatics & the Woman Beneath the Armor
This isn't a conversation about aging. It's a conversation about truth. There comes a season when everything you used to do to hold it all together... stops working. The pushing. The perfectionism. The hyper-independence. The overriding. The armor. And eventually, the body, wise as ever, says: no more. Somatic experiencing practitioner Natasha Pampin has walked this threshold herself. At 39, when perimenopause began, she told her gynecologist, "You're wrong," and spent years trying to think her way around the very thing her body was asking her to feel. Sound familiar? This is one of the most honest conversations I've ever had on this show. We talk about numbness, grief, nervous system survival patterns, identity collapse, menopause, perimenopause, and what it actually looks like to stop abandoning yourself, not as theory, but as lived experience. And yes... this one got personal. I share openly about my own journey through menopause, emotional overwhelm, collapse, healing, and the long process of learning how to listen to my body instead of override it. Because what if the numbness so many women feel isn't dysfunction at all? What if it's protection? What if it's survival? What if your body has been speaking all along? This conversation beautifully breaks down somatics in a deeply human way, especially for the woman who says: "I don't even know what I feel anymore." Together, Natasha and I explore what happens when a woman can no longer continue living disconnected from herself, and how menopause can become less of a breakdown and more of a sacred initiation into truth, softness, self-trust, and what many call the second spring. In This Episode - Why so many women in perimenopause and menopause go numb, and why numbness is still the body communicating - What somatic healing actually means, especially if you've struggled to feel anything at all - The hidden nervous system patterns beneath perfectionism, over-functioning, and burnout - How unresolved grief and trauma live in the body - The difference between reacting to life and responding to it - Why healing happens in relationship, not isolation - The body's incredible intelligence and capacity to guide us home to ourselves - Menopause as initiation, not decline - What it means to soften after a lifetime of bracing About Natasha Pampin Natasha Pampin is a somatic experiencing practitioner supporting women through perimenopause, menopause, trauma, nervous system healing, and the profound threshold of becoming. Find her at natashapampin.com and look for the Perimenopause Care section. Work with me Visit michelle-sorro.com to explore everything available and find what's right for you right now. Let's connect Instagram: @michellesorro Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
#285
May 26 · 1 hr 3 min
Coming Back to Life: What Happened When I Gave 9 Women *this* Molecule on Retreat with Chris Burres
This isn't a conversation about supplements. It's a conversation about energy, clarity, and coming back to life. If you're exhausted, foggy, depleted, or wondering if this is simply what midlife feels like now... this conversation matters. Because I was there too. When I first met Chris Burris, chief scientist and founder of My Vital C, I was still deep in the grief portal, hormonal repair, and a heaviness I didn't have language for yet. And then something began to change. Not overnight. Not magically. But because I was introduced to something that works at the level of the mitochondria, the energy systems inside the body that impact everything from mental clarity and nervous system regulation to sleep, inflammation, vitality, and resilience. Chris has been manufacturing the C60 molecule commercially since 1991, five years before the scientists who discovered it won the Nobel Prize. What began as a scientific pursuit eventually evolved into a wellness breakthrough now getting attention from some of the most trusted voices in biohacking and longevity. But what matters most to me is this: I felt the difference. And then I watched nine women on my retreat feel it too. Three days in, every single one of them noticed a shift. More clarity. More presence. More energy. Better sleep. Less fog. Feeling more like themselves. That's when I knew I needed to bring Chris onto Fire and Soul. In This Episode Why so many women in midlife feel foggy, depleted, and exhausted The hidden role mitochondria play in energy, sleep, focus, and resilience Chris's BOSS Theory and how stressed mitochondria impact the whole body Why you take it in the morning and often sleep better at night The retreat experience that made me pay attention Skin changes, energy shifts, and the three-month arc many people experience Pets, longevity research, and the surprising breadth of testimonials What it feels like to finally come back online after depletion About Chris Burres Chris Burres is the chief scientist and founder of My Vital C and has been manufacturing the C60 molecule commercially since 1991. He's a published author, longevity researcher, and one of the longest-standing manufacturers of this molecule in the world. Find him at myvitalc.com. Resources Get My Vital C with Michelle's discount here. Chris's book Live Longer and Better is available on Amazon. Signed copies are available through the landing page, and 100% of the signature proceeds support Operation Underground Railroad. Work with me Visit michelle-sorro.com to explore everything available and find what's right for you right now. Let's connect Instagram: @michellesorro Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
#284
May 19 · 56 min
She Stopped Letting Go of the Dream to Feel Safe with Danielle Amos
Danielle Amos is the founder of the Mystic Millionaire Movement. You'd expect this conversation to be about money. It's not. It's about the moment you stop letting go of the dream to feel safe. "What most people do is let go of the goal in order to feel comfortable." The moment she said it, something in me woke all the way up. Danielle is one of Bob Proctor's top consultants, has helped create over two dozen millionaires, and studied his work so closely that he called her his protégé. And this past year, while navigating a very public separation, she also fell in love with a man she wrote into existence, attribute by attribute, in a journal she kept before she even knew who he was. This is our reunion episode and the first conversation I've recorded from Santa Barbara. We didn't plan what happened here. Somewhere in the middle of it, this became a live coaching session for me, and I think you're going to feel exactly why. Get ready, this one will move through you like a wildfire! In this episode Why most people drop the goal the moment the body resists it, and what to do instead The real difference between identity and self-image, and why the identity conversation online is missing something critical The law of sacrifice, and why leveling up doesn't have to cost you what you love What Danielle would want to say to Bob Proctor today, and where his work needs to go next How she wrote her relationship into existence, in three parts, before she knew who he was What it actually looks like to stay in your feminine when life is asking you to carry it all The live moment in this episode where I recognized my own next big leap mid-conversation What the amusement park metaphor gets right about healing, shadow work, and when it's time to get off the ride About Danielle Amos Danielle Amos is the founder of the Mystic Millionaire Movement, a success coach, and one of Bob Proctor's top one percent consultants. She's helped create over two dozen millionaires and brings together the principles of abundance, energetics, and Universal Law in a way that's both practical and deeply transformative. Find Danielle at danielleamos.co and on Instagram at @thedanielleamos. Resources Before this episode, Danielle had me on her show and that conversation is one of my favorites. Listen to Episode 41 of The Mystic Millionaire Podcast: God as Your Business Partner: How Surrender Can Skyrocket Your Success. Find it on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or at danielleamos.co/podcast. Work with me I've done a full overhaul on my world and there are beautiful new ways for us to connect, work together, and activate your gifts. Visit michelle-sorro.com to explore everything that's available and find what's right for you right now. Let's connect Website: michelle-sorro.com Instagram: @michellesorro Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
#283
May 12 · 15 min
Fire and Soul Is Back. And This One's for You.
If you've been on a journey of growth, awakening, or reinvention and it's felt heavier than you thought it would, this episode is for you. I'd been sitting with a question for months: do I actually want to keep Fire and Soul going? Nine years in and I really wasn't sure. Then I sat down with Danielle Amos for a conversation dropping next week, and within five minutes I had my answer. Yes. But I'm only here for the conversations that truly matter. The ones that meet you where this moment in human evolution actually is. I think a lot of us are at an inflection point right now. We've done the shadow work. We've faced the hard things. And we're starting to ask a new question. Not "what do I need to heal?" but "what am I actually here to create?" That's the frequency Fire and Soul is coming back on. In this episode I'm sharing what cracked open for me during a quantum leap from Austin to Santa Barbara, not because my story is the point, but because the pattern in it might mirror something you're living too. The moment the grief portal closes and something new wants to come through. The moment you stop waiting to feel ready and just say yes. IN THIS EPISODE Why so many of us are moving from healing mode into creation mode right now. What it looks like when life asks you to make a leap you didn't plan for. Why healing was never meant to be the final destination. How to trust your timing even when it looks nothing like someone else's. What's coming on Fire and Soul and why it might matter more to you now than ever before. JOIN THE SYNERGY OPEN HOUSE — MAY 18TH, 4PM PACIFIC If you've been curious about Gene Keys and what it means to actually live your divine design instead of just study it, come to the free Open House. No commitment, no pitch. Just come see what's possible. RSVP: michelle-sorro.com/synergyopenhouse WORK WITH MICHELLE michelle-sorro.com INSTAGRAM @michellesorro Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
#282
April 2 · 50 min
Your Body Is Not Broken: The Inflammation Code, Ayurveda, and What Midlife Is Really Asking of You with Dr. Shivani Gupta
If you’ve ever felt like your body turned against you somewhere in your 40s or 50s and no one had real answers... this episode is for you. I sat down with Dr. Shivani Gupta, PhD, Ayurvedic practitioner, founder of Fusionary Formulas, and author of The Inflammation Code (Hay House) for one of the most illuminating conversations we have had on Fire and Soul. We went deep on what is really happening in midlife, why inflammation is the root of so much of what we are experiencing, and how a 5,000 year old system of wisdom is giving us answers that modern medicine is just now catching up to. Dr. Shivani grew up in Houston, spent her childhood sick and cycling through antibiotics, and eventually made her way to Ayurvedic healing centers across India in search of answers. What she found changed everything, and now she has dedicated her life to bringing that wisdom to the West in a way that is accessible, practical, and deeply grounding. This conversation will meet you exactly where you are. In this episode we cover: What inflammation actually is (acute vs. chronic) and why most of us are walking around with a low grade forest fire burning underneath the surface The term Dr. Shivani coined that stopped me in my tracks: mental inflammation, and why no amount of green juice will save you if you are not addressing this piece first The three Elemental Design types from Ayurveda (Vata, Pitta, Kapha) and how knowing yours changes everything from what you eat to how you exercise to why hot yoga might actually be working against you Why Pitta women in menopause need to stop choosing the hottest, hardest, most intense option and what cooling actually looks like in practice The gut microbiome and why the antibiotics so many of us took as kids may have set the stage for what we are experiencing now in midlife How circadian rhythm, copper tongue scraping, super spices, and a simple cup of tea can become the foundation of a sustainable reset The 14 day Inflammation Reset inside the book and where to start for free if you are not ready to dive in all the way How Human Design, Gene Keys, Vedic astrology, and Ayurveda can layer together into a dashboard of self understanding unlike anything else available to us right now And the reminder that moved me most: we are sovereign in our health. We have always had more power than we were told. If this episode finds you in the thick of it, know this: what you are experiencing is real. It has a name. It has roots. And there is a path through it that does not require you to suffer in silence or white knuckle your way to the other side. This is exactly the kind of conversation Fire and Soul exists for. Resources Mentioned: The Inflammation Code by Dr. Shivani Gupta >> drshivani.com Elemental Design Quiz (discover your Ayurvedic constitution) >> drshivani.com Free 7 Day Inflammation Detox >> 7dayinflammationdetox.com Get Quiet by Elaine Glass (Hay House) >> https://elaineglass.com/book Connect with Dr. Shivani Gupta: Website >> drshivani.com Instagram >> https://www.instagram.com/dr.shivanigupta Loved this episode? Screenshot it, share it to your stories, and tag me and Dr. Shivani. There is a woman in your life who needs to hear that her body is not broken. Send this to her today. And if Fire and Soul has been a source of truth, comfort, or awakening for you, leaving a review means the world and helps more women find their way here. With so much love, Michelle Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
#281
March 24 · 59 min
The Truth About Microdosing: Sacred, Misunderstood, and Everywhere Right Now with Tiffany Hurd
There's a version of this conversation happening everywhere right now. Most of it feels inflated. Or incomplete. This one isn't. Eight years of Fire and Soul. This is the first time I've opened this door. I brought on Tiffany Hurd of Golden Rule. She's spent over a decade inside this work. The way she speaks about these medicines stopped me the moment I heard her. This conversation has lived behind closed doors for a long time. Private conversations. Personal experiences. Careful discernment around what gets shared. Because this space requires that level of care. It's nuanced. It's powerful. It's subtle. And it's often misunderstood. We go into what these medicines actually are. How people are really using them. Where things get blurry. Where things get irresponsible. And what it looks like to approach this work with discernment. What microdosing actually is beyond the surface conversation. The difference between medicines people tend to group together. Why dosing, rhythm, and intention shape the entire experience. Where the line gets crossed without people realizing it. What happens when this work is rushed. And what begins to open when it's approached with respect. No performance. Just grounded truth. Real experience. Clear language. If this is something you've been drawn toward, questioning, or exploring... Listen in. And if you’re ready to explore these medicines with more clarity and support, you can learn more about Tiffany’s work and Golden Rule here. Show Resources Connect with Michelle Ig: https://www.instagram.com/michellesorro/ Sacred Space Stewardship is Open: https://www.sacredspacestewardship.com/ Website: https://www.michelle-sorro.com/ Connect with Golden Rule Explore Golden Rule Ig: https://www.instagram.com/goldenrulemushrooms/ Ig: https://www.instagram.com/goldenrulemicrodose/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
#280
March 17 · 1 hr 14 min
Money Is Love: Elizabeth Ralph on Being Seen, Choosing Bigger, and Letting Wealth Match Your Expansion
What if money isn't something to chase, control, or fear, but a mirror of how deeply you're willing to remember who you are? This conversation with Elizabeth Ralph is one I will return to again and again. Elizabeth is the founder of The Spiritual Investor, host of The Spiritual Investor Podcast, and the guide behind a rapidly growing global movement that is reframing wealth, investing, and financial freedom through a lens most people were never taught: energy, consciousness, and self-expression. But this episode goes far beyond money. What unfolded here felt like a transmission about sacred remembrance. We explore what happens when you stop treating money as something separate from love, truth, or spiritual growth, and instead recognize it as an energetic reflection of your identity, your standards, and your willingness to choose the life that is calling you forward. If you've ever felt the tension between the spiritual path and the material world... If you've wondered how wealth and awakening actually coexist... Or if you're standing on the edge of a bigger life and can hear the old fears whispering... this conversation will meet you exactly where you are. I first discovered Elizabeth through the brilliant Luke Storey's podcast, The Life Stylist, and I remember listening to their conversation three times in two days because no one was talking about money like this. Her perspective is precise, embodied, and deeply liberating. And in this episode, we go even deeper. We talk about the moment Elizabeth chose to redefine freedom on her own terms. Why certainty, not strategy, is the real foundation of wealth. How effortless action emerges when your identity expands. Why spiritual people often unconsciously block money. And why the deepest work may simply be learning to drop the past in real time. Something Elizabeth shared that I am still sitting with: The version of you three months from now who is already living in the expanded place believes in it just as much as you believe in your current reality. There is no more evidence for one than the other. There never was. Which means the only thing that changes everything is what you choose to believe right now. At the heart of it all is something deceptively simple. Money is not separate from love. And when you begin to live from that truth, everything changes. In this episode, we explore Elizabeth's radical definition of money and why she sees money as love The kangaroo on a beach in Australia that sparked the question that changed her life Why certainty is the real currency behind wealth creation How identity expansion naturally changes the way money flows into your life The difference between efficiency and true effortless action Why spiritual people often unconsciously block money while doing everything "right" How investing can become an act of empowerment rather than fear The energetic shift that happens when you choose first and let reality catch up Why being seen and truly seeing others may be the real source of abundance Resources + Links Explore Elizabeth's work and learn more about The Spiritual Investor Mastermind: https://thespiritualinvestor.com Listen to The Spiritual Investor Podcast: https://thespiritualinvestor.com/podcast Listen to the episode that first introduced me to Elizabeth on The Life Stylist Podcast with Luke Storey: The Spiritual Investor Episode →https://www.lukestorey.com/lifestylistpodcast/619 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
#279
March 10 · 18 min
The Return: Recalibration, Sacred Space Stewardship, and the Dharma of Retreat Holding
Title: The Return: Recalibration, Sacred Space Stewardship, and the Dharma of Retreat Holding After an unintentional three month pause, I'm returning to Fire and Soul with a solo episode that feels long overdue. In this episode I'm pulling back the curtain on what this season has really been about for me, the numerology, the move out of Lakeway, the spiritual deepening, and the new chapter that is quietly becoming one of the most exciting things I have ever created. I also share why 2025 was simultaneously the hardest and greatest teacher of my life, what the 12 Wild and Holy Nights revealed to me, and the sacred thread of 222 that has been weaving through everything. Plus I'm giving you the first real look at Sacred Space Stewardship, my brand new certification program for women who are ready to lead transformational retreats with integrity, capacity, and true stewardship. The founding cohort kicks off May 19th and we are only taking eight women. If you have been feeling the call to hold space at this level, this episode is for you. Links mentioned: Sacred Space Stewardship waitlist: sacredspacestewardship.com Sedona Rising retreat (2 spots remaining, April 16-20): https://www.michelle-sorro.com/sedonarisingretreat Synergy: https://www.michelle-sorro.com/synergy michelle-sorro.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
#278
Dec 16, 2025 · 1 hr 7 min
You Don’t Need Another Breakthrough: Stabilizing Awakening, Capacity, and System Upgrade with Pavel Aeon
You don’t need another breakthrough. You don’t need another awakening. You don’t need another insight. And you definitely don’t need another method that works for three weeks and then collapses. What you may need is an integrated operating system. In this episode of Fire and Soul, I sit down with my dear friend and Transformational Leader Pavel Aeon for a grounded, uncompromising conversation about what happens after awakening, when growth outpaces the body, the nervous system, and the life structures meant to hold it. For the first time publicly, Pavel shares System Upgrade, and it is a genuine honor for me to be the place where this conversation is happening. System Upgrade is a monthly live summit with practical protocols and a global community for real transformation, created for high vibe freedom seekers who are ready to stabilize growth and live what they know. This is a yearlong global journey designed to support physical, emotional, mental, relational, and spiritual integration throughout 2026. Not as a promise of transformation, but as a way to stabilize change so growth no longer comes at the cost of burnout, isolation, or collapse. We talk honestly about the four phases of real transformation. Wake up. Clean up. Power up. Rest up. We explore why so many people cycle between expansion and exhaustion, how breath functions as a direct regulatory tool rather than a performance practice, and the quiet grief that often comes with outgrowing relationships, identities, and old ways of living. This conversation is not about becoming more spiritual. It’s about becoming more capable of living what’s already true. If you’ve felt the next chapter approaching and you’re done paying for growth with your nervous system, this episode is for you. YOU’LL LEARN • Why repeated burnout is often a capacity issue rather than a personal failure • The four phases that determine whether transformation stabilizes or destabilizes • How breath supports regulation instead of performance • What happens when awakening outpaces the nervous system • Why relationships often change during periods of expansion • What Earth 2.0 actually means in everyday life • Who System Upgrade is designed for and why now If this conversation resonates, do not rush past that signal. System Upgrade is a yearlong global journey designed to support integration rather than peak experiences. You receive free access to monthly full day livestream summits, guided practices, weekly integration and coherence sessions, and a growing international community focused on sustainable evolution throughout 2026. This is not about becoming someone new. It’s about upgrading the system that has to carry who you already are. Explore From Burnout to Earth 2.0 for free here: 👉https://thesystemupgrade.com/fire RESOURCES System Upgrade:https://thesystemupgrade.com/fire Michelle Sorro: https://www.michelle-sorro.com Pavel Aeon on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/pavel.aeon/ Upper Aeon: https://www.instagram.com/upperaeon/ Pavel Aeon on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/pavelaeon/ Explore + Join for FREE Here:https://thesystemupgrade.com/fire Thank you for being here and for listening with care. If this episode stirred something, I invite you to explore From Burnout to Earth 2.0 and learn more about Pavel’s System Upgrade journey at the link below for free. 👉https://thesystemupgrade.com/fire Join at your own pace, take what supports you, and trust your timing. I’m grateful you’re part of this community, and I’ll see you in the next episode of Fire and Soul. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
#277
Nov 11, 2025 · 1 hr 8 min
The Art of Embodied Living: Slowing Down to Remember What It Means to Be Human with Kate Appleton
What if healing isn’t about fixing ourselves but about slowing down enough to feel ourselves again? In this deeply grounding and illuminating episode of Fire and Soul, I sit down with my somatics therapist and mentor, Kate Appleton, whose five decades of experience bridge psychology, art, education, and storytelling. Together we explore what it truly means to live an embodied life — one rooted in sensation, relationship, and soul — and how to meet ourselves and each other beyond performance or productivity. Kate shares her wisdom on why healing doesn’t mean eliminating discomfort but learning how to be with it differently, and how true transformation happens through safety, trust, and connection. You’ll hear personal reflections from my own somatic journey, the science behind how our bodies communicate safety and stress, and how small, practical rituals can reawaken our aliveness. This conversation is for anyone who’s ready to slow down, listen deeply, and return to the sacredness of being human. In This Episode, You’ll Discover: • What somatics truly means and how it brings us home to our “living wholeness” • How to notice the body’s subtle cues and sensations that signal truth and safety • Why leaning back in your chair can rewire your nervous system and deepen connection • How to create healthy boundaries through embodied awareness • The cultural cost of constant consumption and the invitation to return to creation • Simple ways to weave ritual, stillness, and silence into everyday life • How to help the next generation reconnect through values, integrity, and presence • Why slowing down is the most radical act of love and leadership in modern times “When we can feel the edges of our body, we remember where we end and the world begins.” — Kate Appleton Resources Mentioned: Learn more about Kate’s work: kate-appleton.com Explore Attachment & Somatics Training (next cohort begins February 2026) — use code MICHELLESORRO for $500 off at https://traumaandsomatics.com Consumer to Creator is now open for registration — join the free live immersion at consumertocreator.com Connect with Michelle on Instagram: @michelle.sorro Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
#276
Nov 4, 2025 · 59 min
Made for Magic: Turning Heartbreak into Soul-Satisfying Joy with Elizabeth Webb
What if the miracle you think you missed is already orbiting your life, waiting for you to notice it? In this tender and truth-telling episode of Fire and Soul, I sit down with Elizabeth Webb, author of Made for Magic: A Practical Guide from Survival Mode to Soul-Satisfying Joy. Elizabeth is a renowned coach, speaker, and spiritual teacher whose story reminds us that even our deepest heartbreaks can become portals to profound awakening. We talk about the love that shattered her heart open, the book that was born from her healing, and the journey of learning to access magic again after loss. We also explore the initiatory experience of moving to Austin, the messy middle of personal transformation, and what it means to find beauty, humility, and purpose through life’s breakdowns. Our conversation flows into the difference between intuition and trauma responses, how to reclaim your sense of safety and sovereignty, and why most of us are not broken but simply waiting to remember who we are. Elizabeth’s wisdom is raw, refreshing, and rooted in lived experience — this is one of those conversations that will move through your body as much as your mind. If you’ve ever felt late, lost, or afraid that your best days are behind you, this one will remind you that your miracle is right on time. In This Episode, You’ll Discover: • How Elizabeth transformed heartbreak into healing and creative purpose • The origin story of Made for Magic and what it means to live from soul-satisfying joy • The difference between intuition and trauma responses — and how to tell the two apart • How to build safety and self-trust when life doesn’t go as planned • The courage it takes to meet discomfort instead of bypassing it • How to shift from self-blame into radical self-responsibility and freedom • Why feeling misunderstood can actually be your spiritual initiation • The power of finding miracles in the mundane and beauty in the in-between “Healing doesn’t always mean fixing what’s broken. Sometimes it means finding the magic that was never lost.” Resources Mentioned: Order Made for Magic: A Practical Guide from Survival Mode to Soul-Satisfying Joy at madeformagicbook.com and download the first chapter for free Subscribe to Elizabeth’s Love Beams — her luminous letters on joy, intuition, and living awake Connect with Michelle on Instagram @michelle.sorro Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
#275
Oct 28, 2025 · 1 hr 13 min
Walking Through Fire: A Best Friend's Perspective on Truth, Transformation, and Awakening
This episode is unlike anything I’ve ever done on Fire and Soul. For the first time, I’m the guest on my own show, interviewed by someone who has witnessed every iteration of me in the past nine years—the humbling moments, the expansive breakthroughs, and everything in between. Jocelyn and I first met inside my very first mastermind after a Tony Robbins firewalk event, which makes the timing of this conversation feel divinely orchestrated. She’s seen me lead from relentless drive, transform through shadow, and learn to show up from a place of genuine wholeness. Together, we reflect on friendship, growth, and what it really means to keep walking each other home. This conversation goes places I didn’t expect. We talk about: How my leadership has evolved from control to surrender, and why I probably wouldn’t have agreed to this interview five years ago. The tender moments in our friendship that deepened our bond, including stories we’ve never shared publicly. What it really looks like to give yourself permission to be fully human—the messy, the magical, and everything in between. The unexpected ways our friendship has been one of sacred reciprocity, where we’ve both been teachers and students for each other. What I’d tell someone walking through their own fire right now (spoiler: it’s not sexy, but it’s the truth). This feels like eavesdropping on a 6 a.m. phone call between soul sisters who’ve walked through heaven and hell together and come out choosing love, presence, and connection again and again. It’s intimate. It’s unscripted. It’s deeply human. And it’s a reminder that awakening isn’t about perfection. It’s about presence. “These are initiatory times, and the fires I truly believe are not here to punish us—they are here to purify us.” Tune In If... You’re walking through your own fire right now and need a living example of what it looks like to stay anchored in truth. Or you’re navigating friendship, transformation, or uncertainty and wondering how to keep showing up with your whole heart. This episode is for anyone ready to stop performing and start being present. Connect with Me If this episode touched you, I’d love to hear from you. Send me a DM, leave a review on your favorite pod player, or say hi on social media. With love and fire, Michelle (and Jocelyn) Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
#274
Oct 21, 2025 · 1 hr 18 min
My Voice is a Prayer: A Call to Devotion with Reya Manna
What if your voice was a living prayer, and the Earth herself was listening? Holy, holy. This conversation is one of my all-time favorites. I'm joined by my dear sister Reya Manna, an Earth Song Guide, healer, and founder of the SongKeeper School, whose life is devoted to restoring our sacred relationship with the land and the Divine. From our very first meeting, it felt like an ancient remembering: two women who had walked the same Topanga trails, shared the same love for Jesus beyond dogma, and answered the same call to leave Los Angeles when spirit whispered, it's time. Together, we explore what it really means to wake down into the body, commune with nature as a living teacher, and live as instruments of the holy. Reya shares how listening to the Earth led her to create the SongKeeper School, how this summer's eclipse portal became a profound feminine initiation, and why devotion, song, and ceremony are medicine for these times. You'll hear about: Following the soul's call even when it makes no sense Learning to wake down: embodying divinity through the human form The voice as sacred medicine and prayer Healing through song, Earth-honoring, and feminine initiation Living devotion in everyday life We also talk about her brand-new seven-week offering, The Journey of the Song Keeper, now open for enrollment: a live, experiential program through The Shift Network that helps you reconnect with your voice as a sacred conduit of the Divine and sing Heaven onto Earth. You can learn more and join through the link above and here. We close with Reya’s unreleased song, “My Body Is a Church,” a transmission that will stay with you long after the final note. About Reya: Reya Manna, MDiv, MSW, CPC is an author, ceremonialist, life coach, musician, and activist devoted to helping others find their voice and live in harmony with the Earth. She holds Master's degrees in Social Work and Divinity, and has studied Indigenous culture, music, and esoteric spirituality across West Africa, Ireland, and North America. For over 25 years, Reya has integrated psychology, shamanism, yoga, energy and sound healing, and ancient wisdom traditions into a unique body of work that guides individuals and communities to heal, awaken, and embody their highest potential. She is the founder of the SongKeeper School: a sanctuary for sacred singing, Earth-honoring, and ritual, and the creator of Sing the World Awake!, a global children's project activating consciousness through music and mindfulness. Reya is also the author of The Awakening World: The Return of the Divine Feminine. Connect with Reya: @reya_manna • YouTube • ReyaManna.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
#273
Oct 14, 2025 · 24 min
The Threshold of Integration
What if awakening isn’t about rising higher but softening into the body and allowing life to hold you? In this solo episode, I open up about what it really means to wake down into myself, to build capacity, stay present with what is, and lead from embodied truth in a season of deep change, endings, and new beginnings. Over the past year, I’ve been walking through profound initiation in my somatic and attachment training, in my relationship with God, in my business, and in my own body through the threshold of menopause. This journey has stripped away illusion and invited me into something far more real: presence over proving, discernment over doing, embodiment over striving. In this episode, I share how God became my business partner, how I’m learning to listen to the living language of my body, and why I’ve chosen to honor my nervous system’s truth even when it means being less visible. I also reflect on the shift from Embody Your Higher Purpose to From Insight to Embodiment and how this new foundation is shaping everything I create and share. Inside this episode, I explore: • Waking down to the body as the true path of ascension • Building capacity instead of chasing courage • How somatics reveals old imprints and restores self-trust • The sacred initiation of menopause and the healing power of homeopathy • Living in a personal Year One within a collective Year Nine • The discernment to share less publicly while expanding inwardly • Why connection with self, Source, Earth, and one another is what truly matters If you feel called to join me in this season of embodiment, I’d love to welcome you inside Soul Work Synergy, our living community of Gene Keys and somatic practice. And if you’re craving a deeper immersion, we have two final spaces open for Soul Essence, our upcoming retreat in Ojai, California, November 13 to 17. Come home to your body. Let presence be enough. Everything else unfolds from there. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
#272
Sep 23, 2025 · 1 hr 9 min
The Sacred Alchemy of Healing with Dr. Cass Naumann
What if the deepest medicine you’re seeking has been alive within you all along? In this week’s Fire and Soul, I sit down with my dear sister Dr. Cass Naumann—doctor of Chinese medicine, ordained Daoist priestess, musician, and ceremonialist—for a profoundly moving conversation on the sacred alchemy of healing. Cass shares her remarkable journey from musician to healer, and how the initiations of grief, devotion, and spiritual cultivation shaped her path. We explore why ceremony matters so deeply in these times, how our bodies carry the keys to transformation, and what it means to activate our “inner pharmacy” of joy, presence, and connection. This is one of those deeply rich, heart-opening dialogues that feels like a ceremony in itself, and I'm so excited for you to experience it. 🌿 In this episode, you’ll hear us dive into: The moment grief became Cass’s greatest teacher and reoriented her life’s work How she bridges Chinese medicine, Daoist priesthood, and ceremonial wisdom The questions she asks every patient: What brings you joy? and Do you have a spiritual practice?—and why the answers matter Rituals and emotional alchemy practices for transmuting grief, anger, and frustration into virtue Why invisibility, Wu Wei (effortless action), and embodied presence are essential medicine right now The power of ceremony to bring reverence, belonging, and healing into everyday life Cass closes our time with a blessing that will leave you rooted in peace and love 📍 Connect with Dr. Cass Website: http://doctorcass.com Instagram: @doctor.cass 📚 Additional Resource If you feel called to explore the trainings at Trauma and Somatics—the organization Cass and I are currently students of and highly recommend—you can learn more at traumaandsomatics.com If you decide to move forward with a training, you’re welcome to use the code MICHELLESORRO for a significant savings. If this conversation nourishes you, share it with a friend and let me know your favorite moment—I love hearing how these dialogues land in your heart. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
#270
Sep 9, 2025 · 1 hr 49 min
Equity: The Key to Self-Governance and Lawful Living with Sacred Honor Educational Fellowship
What if the remedy to navigating our complex legal and financial systems has been hiding in plain sight within the very documents that created them? In this episode of Fire and Soul, I dive into equity jurisprudence with Michael Joseph and Phil Mederi of Sacred Honor Educational Fellowship. This conversation builds on my explorations of spiritual sovereignty and self-governance, offering what may be the missing piece for those who’ve completed status correction — or are just beginning their journey toward lawful living. One of the most important clarifications here is that status correction is not required to walk the equity passageway. Equity is not jurisdictional or exclusive. It’s available to every living man and woman because it rests on one truth: we are the creditors of the system. All that’s required is learning how to express that through our signature and knowledge, compelling performance by the letter of the law. What's amazing, is that you don’t need to do anything first in order to access equity and begin freeing yourself from encumbrances. We explore the core distinctions between “legal” and “lawful,” revealing how equity operates as a private remedy rooted in natural justice. Phil walks us through Black’s Law Dictionary definitions that expose how the legal system distinguishes between substance (lawful/equitable) and form (legal/fictional). We discuss the historical context from 1871 through 1933 that shifted us from gold and silver currency to a debt-based system, and how understanding this history provides pathways to peaceful resolution of public charges and debts. We also cover the four pathways within Sacred Honor’s Foundation for Self Governance: national status passport, trifecta, allodial land, and equity passage. Our focus is equity as a tool for discharge, dissolution of public contracts, and peaceful inquiry — all designed to help individuals be “left alone” in the private while navigating public affairs with honor and integrity. About today’s guests: Michael Joseph is the host of the Libertishorizon.com Podcast, executive producer & host of Liberty’s Horizon Events, and founding director of Sacred Honor Educational Fellowship. A staunch advocate for self-governance, Michael educates on the invisible contracts that bind us to a commercial corporate fiction and shares remedies that empower people to bridge out of the Babylonian system or administer their affairs within it with more power and awareness. Phil Mederi is a student and teacher of Equity Jurisprudence and serves as Equity Director at Sacred Honor Educational Fellowship. With the conscious awakening accelerating worldwide, Phil is committed to helping bring law into balance with God and natural principles through Equity. This is essential listening for anyone walking the path of spiritual sovereignty and seeking practical, lawful ways to reclaim their natural rights. Fellowship Link Here 👉 Inside the Fellowship, you’re invited to explore the complimentary ebook Equity Unveiled and watch the edumentary Breaking the Spell. Tap the link below to begin. And if you feel called to join the Equity Passageway, use the code provided for $250 off when you enroll by September 30, 2025. Fellowship Link Here Let's be free together! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
#269
Sep 2, 2025 · 1 hr 17 min
From Unimaginable Loss to Radiant Living with Vickie Menendez
When life shatters, can love still lead? In this tender, truth-telling conversation, my guest Vickie Menendez — a mother who’s lost four children — shows us how grief can become a doorway to radiant, embodied living. In this episode of Fire and Soul, I welcome inspirational speaker, Soul Midwife, and author Vickie Menendez to explore what it really means to live again after unimaginable loss. Vickie shares the sacred threads of her story — from the passing of her children and father to the soul contracts, somatic healing, and spiritual devotion that carried her back to life. You’ll hear practical ways to be with grief in the body, create a “beautiful goodbye” visualization, and rebuild nervous-system capacity so presence and connection become possible again. This is a conversation for anyone standing in the in-between: tender, reverent, and full of quiet courage. I also share a glimpse of Soul Work Synergy, my newest monthly live community where we explore one Gene Key at a time through somatic practice and spiritual devotion. It’s a living rhythm of insight, integration, and spiritual embodiment that I can’t wait to invite you into. We cover: Grief as initiation: moving from survival to soulful rebirth Soul contracts and continuing bonds beyond the veil Somatic tools that actually help (breathwork, vagal toning, MAP, Yin) How stored emotion becomes pain — and how to unwind it The “Beautiful Goodbye” practice to reframe final memories Parenting, partnership, and community in seasons of loss Finding the gold in a painful origin story (music, frequency, and safety) Resources & links: Vickie Menendez — site & offerings: [vickiemenendez.com] Book: Crystal’s Butterfly Effect (includes letters + mandalas) Event — The Chrysalis Journey: A Virtual Gathering for Grief, Grace, and Learning to Live Again (Oct 4, 2025; virtual + Miami): Register here: https://vickiemenendez.com/ Soul Work Synergy — my brand new monthly live-guided journey (3 weeks on, 1 week off) weaving Gene Keys, somatic wisdom, and spiritual devotion starts 9/15: https://www.michelle-sorro.com/synergy Gentle note: This episode discusses child loss, addiction, and end-of-life experiences. Please care for your nervous system as you listen. Timestamps (approx.): 00:00 Opening + why Synergy was born 05:30 Vickie’s story and the first loss 15:40 Addiction, shame, and the art that told the truth 24:50 Soul contracts and ongoing connection 33:10 Hospital as sacred space; the “Beautiful Goodbye” 47:20 Somatic healing that works (breath, vagal toning, MAP) 58:00 The Chrysalis Journey event invitation + closing blessings Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
#268
Aug 12, 2025 · 58 min
Living Truth in a Distorted World: The Cosmic Compass & Finding Your Authentic Frequency with Aileen Henley
In a world where manipulation masquerades as truth and spiritual bypassing poses as wisdom, how do we find our way back to what's real? I'm exploring this vital question with Aileen Henley, seer, spiritual architect, and creator of the Cosmic Compass. In this episode, you'll discover: How to recognize when you're living from mimicry versus your authentic frequency The difference between 3D reality and 4D virtual experiences, and why integration matters How discomfort is actually your doorway to growth and deeper self-awareness Why truth is a geometry and frequency you can learn to attune to The power of radical self-honesty in breaking free from societal conditioning How the Cosmic Compass game serves as a mirror for your inner wisdom Practical ways to choose which "version" of yourself is making decisions Why your energetic environment impacts your ability to access your truth The importance of play and authenticity in both life and business About my guest Aileen Henley: Aileen is a visionary guide who helps people reconnect with their inner compass through her revolutionary Cosmic Compass game and teachings. After her own awakening at 24, she's spent 17 years helping thousands access their highest guidance from within. This conversation is perfect for spiritual seekers, entrepreneurs, and anyone ready to stop living from borrowed truth and start embodying their own authentic frequency. Connect with Aileen: Website: aileenhenley.com Find Cosmic Compass games, workshops, retreats, and online programs Ready to play your way back to your truth? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
#267
Aug 5, 2025 · 1 hr 6 min
Designed for Miracles: Why Your Sensitivity Is Your Greatest Gift with Dr. Dain Heer
Ever felt you're "too sensitive," "too intense," or can't squeeze yourself into the world's idea of normal? In this powerful episode, I sit down with Dr. Dain Heer, internationally renowned co-creator of Access Consciousness, to explore how your sensitivity is actually your greatest strength and doorway to miraculous living. Drawing parallels to my own work in somatic healing and embodied leadership, this conversation explores the possibility of healing trauma without having to relive the pain... an approach that may challenge traditional beliefs, but opens a doorway to curiosity and new perspectives. Dr. Dain shares how practical tools, presence, and energy can support spontaneous transformation without necessarily revisiting every wound. Discover why sensitive souls ("humanoids") are wired differently, and how to embrace your unique energetic blueprint to become the embodied leader you were born to be. Your sensitivity is your superpower. It's time to stop shrinking and start embracing the miracle of who you truly are. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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