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Energy Frenemies

Aliya Haq, Rich Powell, and Dr. Vijay Swarup

Energy Frenemies is a new podcast from CleanEcon, hosted by Aliya Haq (President, CleanEcon), Vijay Swarup (retired Vice President, ExxonMobil), and Rich Powell (CEO, CEBA). Three very different backgrounds, one North Star: America needs energy that's reliable, cheap, and clean. Getting there is where it gets interesting.

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  • English

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  • #2
    September 30 · 35 min

    Is Net-Zero The Wrong Goal?

    The UN settled on net-zero emissions by 2050 as a global climate goal, and now everyone—from scientists to policymakers to corporate leaders—uses it. But after saying "net-zero by 2050" an infinite number of times, Aliya wants to know if it's still the right target. Rich thinks the word "net" does the heavy lifting, and Vijay thinks the whole concept is an aspiration (just like improving his golf game). The Frenemies dig into emissions targets, energy burden, and the green premium, and ask how best to measure progress toward clean, cheap, and reliable energy.

  • #1
    September 16 · 30 min

    Energy Tribes

    Aliya is a veteran of the environmental movement, Vijay is a retired ExxonMobil executive, and Rich is a conservative clean energy leader. What could they possibly agree on? Turns out, a lot more than you'd think. In this episode, the three find out they agree on three guiding principles for energy policy.

  • September 10 · 1 min

    Meet the Frenemies

    What happens when a veteran environmentalist, a former ExxonMobil executive, and a conservative clean energy leader host an energy podcast together? Meet Energy Frenemies — a new podcast from CleanEcon, bringing together Aliya Haq, Dr. Vijay Swarup, and Rich Powell: three people with very different backgrounds and plenty of opinions about America's energy future. They disagree. They make fun of each other. And often, they find more common ground than you’d expect.

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