Endless Pursuit Podcast

Mackenzie Smith

The Endless Pursuit Podcast, hosted by Mackenzie Smith and Laurence Brown, delivers a no-nonsense approach to fitness and health.

With over 40 years of combined experience, the hosts cut through the common myths and misinformation in the fitness industry, offering actionable and sustainable advice for those looking to get in better shape.

Focusing on the intersection of health and lifestyle, the podcast covers topics ranging from effective workout routines and nutrition strategies to mindset and life balance.

The Endless Pursuit Podcast is designed for those looking to optimize their physical and mental well-being and take their lives to the next level.

New episodes are released every Monday, featuring discussions that help listeners make informed decisions and achieve long-term success in both fitness and life.

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#104
Yesterday · 35 min
How to Get Healthy When Life Is Already Too Busy | Episode 104
How many times have you told yourself, "I'll start when things slow down"? After this project. After the holidays. When work gets less crazy. When you finally have more time. But what if life doesn't slow down? In this episode, we're talking about why waiting for the perfect time to prioritize your health might be keeping you stuck, how to recognize when timing is a legitimate concern versus an excuse, and how to start making progress even when life is already full. Interested in Working with Us? If you've been waiting for the right time to get started, this might be your sign to stop waiting. We help busy professionals build strength, lose fat, improve their energy, and create sustainable habits without sacrificing their careers, families, or the things they love. We have a few coaching spots open this month. Apply here and we'll see how we can help you build a plan that actually works for your life: https://form.jotform.com/211409119511042 Connect With Us Mackenzie Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fit_with_mackenzie/ Twitter: https://x.com/smithhmackenzie LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/smithhmackenzie/ Laurence Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bestlifedude/ Twitter: https://x.com/bestlifedude/ If You Enjoyed This Episode Share it with someone who's been saying they'll start when life slows down. Subscribe, leave us a review, and we'll catch you next week.
#103
October 19 · 47 min
How to Build a Workout Program That Actually Works | Episode 103
You can go to the gym 3–4 times a week, work hard, and still struggle to build muscle or get stronger. Why? Because there's a big difference between doing random workouts and following an actual training program. In this episode, we're breaking down how to structure your workouts to actually get results, without spending hours in the gym or constantly changing your routine. We cover: - How many days a week you actually need to lift weights - How many sets and reps you should be doing to build muscle - How hard you need to train (and why more isn't always better) - How to choose the right exercises for your goals - Progressive overload and how to measure your progress - Why recovery is just as important as your workouts - How to build a program that fits your schedule, experience, and lifestyle Interested in Coaching? If you're tired of guessing what to do in the gym or wondering whether your workouts are actually working, that's exactly what we help our clients with. We build personalized training programs around your goals, experience, schedule, and recovery, then adjust them as you progress. Apply here: https://form.jotform.com/211409119511042 Connect With Us Mackenzie Twitter: https://x.com/smithhmackenzie LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/smithhmackenzie/ Laurence Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bestlifedude/ Twitter: https://x.com/bestlifedude/ If You Enjoyed This Episode Share it with someone who's putting in the work at the gym but isn't seeing the results they want. Subscribe, leave us a review, and we'll catch you next week.
#102
October 12 · 22 min
When the Plan Falls Apart, Do This | Episode 102
We had an entirely different episode planned for today... then technical difficulties happened, our plans changed, and we had to call an audible. Which ironically turned into the perfect topic for this episode 😂 Because life does the exact same thing to your health and fitness routine when work gets crazy, you're traveling, or something unexpected comes up. So what do you do when Plan A isn't happening? In this episode, we talk about creating a "floor" for your habits and having backup options you can fall back on when life gets chaotic. Maybe the 45-minute workout becomes 10 minutes at home. Maybe nutrition becomes simply prioritizing protein. Maybe your hour-long morning routine becomes five minutes of prayer or journaling. It doesn't have to be perfect to count. The goal is to learn how to call an audible, adapt to what's in front of you, and keep showing up instead of throwing everything out because the original plan didn't work. Sometimes Plan B, C, or D is exactly what you need. Connect With Us Mackenzie Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fit_with_mackenzie/ Twitter: https://x.com/smithhmackenzie LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/smithhmackenzie/ Laurence Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bestlifedude/ Twitter: https://x.com/bestlifedude/ If You Enjoyed This Episode Send it to someone whose life never seems to go according to plan 😂 Subscribe, leave us a review, and we'll catch you in the next one.
#101
October 5 · 42 min
The 95% of Your Health You're Overlooking | Episode 101
Everyone wants to know the best workout, supplement, recovery tool, or new strategy that will take their results to the next level. But most people are overlooking the things that actually move the needle the most. In this episode, we break down why the simple basics have such a massive impact on your strength, muscle growth, fat loss, recovery, energy, and overall health. We also talk about why these habits work together, how small improvements compound over time, and why you shouldn't be trying to optimize the last 5% when the first 95% still needs work. The basics might not be exciting. But when you consistently get them right, they can completely change how you look, feel, and perform. Interested in Coaching? If you know what you should be doing but struggle to make it all fit into your life consistently, that's a huge part of what we help our clients with. We have a few coaching spots open this month. Apply using the link below and we'll learn more about where you're at, what you've been struggling with, and what you want to accomplish to see how we can support you. Join Team Unbreakable here: https://form.jotform.com/211409119511042 If You Enjoyed This Episode Send it to someone who's always looking for the next hack instead of mastering the basics. Subscribe, leave us a review, and we'll catch you in the next one.
#100
September 28 · 41 min
What 100 Episodes Taught Us About Health, Growth & Life
We made it to 100 episodes of The Endless Pursuit. For this one, we're looking back at where the podcast started, how much we've changed along the way, and some of the biggest lessons we've learned through coaching, our own lives, and 100 conversations about health, growth, and becoming better. We talk about how our definition of health has expanded far beyond workouts and nutrition, why consistency will always beat perfection, and why the deeper work behind your behaviors is often the work that matters most. We also share five of the biggest lessons we've taken from the first 100 episodes. Thank you to everyone who has listened, shared an episode, sent us a message, become a client, joined us as a guest, or simply been along for the ride. Here's to the next 100. Connect With Us Mackenzie Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fit_with_mackenzie/ Twitter: https://x.com/smithhmackenzie LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/smithhmackenzie/ Laurence Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bestlifedude/ Twitter: https://x.com/bestlifedude/ --- If You Enjoyed This Episode Share it with someone who would benefit from the podcast. Subscribe, leave us a review, and we'll catch you in episode 101.
#99
September 21 · 20 min
Why Food Has Become Your Coping Mechanism | Episode 99
In this episode, we're breaking down emotional eating and why it's usually not a lack of discipline around food. If you find yourself eating when you're stressed, anxious, bored, overwhelmed, or exhausted, food may have become a way to cope, find comfort, or simply shut your brain off for a few minutes. We break down how to recognize what's actually driving the behavior, how to interrupt the pattern, and how to build healthier ways to handle what you're feeling instead. At the core, you need to understand why you need the food in the first place. Free Protein Guide Need some simple ways to get more protein in without spending hours cooking? Download our free guide with 10 ways to get 50g of protein in under 10 minutes here: https://fitwithmackenzie.com/protein Connect With Us Mackenzie Twitter: https://x.com/smithhmackenzie LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/smithhmackenzie/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fit_with_mackenzie/ Laurence Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bestlifedude/ Twitter: https://x.com/bestlifedude/ If You Enjoyed This Episode please share it with someone who's been beating themselves up over food and needs to hear that the answer isn't simply more discipline. Subscribe, leave us a review, and we'll catch you next week. Appreciate you!!
#98
September 14 · 35 min
How to Stop Starting Over With Your Health | Episode 98
In this episode, we're breaking down one of the biggest reasons people struggle to stay consistent with their health and fitness: all-or-nothing thinking. You miss one workout and suddenly the whole week feels ruined. You eat more than planned Friday night and decide you'll start over Monday. You have one bad weigh-in and convince yourself nothing is working. The real problem is that you haven't learned how to be imperfect and keep going. We break down how perfectionism actually makes you less consistent, how to stop compensating after you "mess up," and why your plan needs to have multiple versions that can adapt to real life. You don't need to keep starting over. You need to learn how to keep going. Interested in Working With Us? If you've been stuck in the on-and-off cycle for years and you're ready to build an approach that actually works around your life, we have a few coaching spots open this month. We'll sit down, learn more about where you're at, what's been keeping you stuck, what you've tried before, and where you're trying to go to see if and how we'd be able to support you. Apply here: https://form.jotform.com/211409119511042 Connect With Us Mackenzie Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fit_with_mackenzie/ Twitter: https://x.com/smithhmackenzie LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/smithhmackenzie/ Laurence Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bestlifedude/ Twitter: https://x.com/bestlifedude/ If you enjoyed this episode please send it to someone who's always telling themselves they'll "start again Monday."
#97
September 7 · 42 min
Don't Wait Until Someday to Start Living | with Tim Schippmann
In this episode, we're joined by our client Tim Schippmann, who has spent his life saying yes to experiences most people leave on their someday list. He's run marathons, completed Ironmans, biked across the United States, climbed the equivalent of Mount Everest, traveled the world, and raised three kids who are now chasing adventures of their own. But this episode isn't really about doing crazy endurance feats... it's more about what being healthy gives you access to. We talk about how taking care of his body has allowed him to keep doing MORE as he's gotten older, not less. We also get into strength training and longevity, choosing friends who push you forward, raising kids through example instead of instruction, balancing responsibility with adventure, and why you shouldn't wait until retirement to finally start living your life. The goal of fitness is to build a body capable of saying yes to the experiences, people, and adventures that make those years worth living. Connect With Tim on IG @HappyOnTrails If You Enjoyed This Episode Share it with someone who's been telling themselves they'll get healthy, take the trip, or start living differently “someday.” Don't wait for someday. Subscribe, leave us a review, and we'll catch you in the next one. Appreciate y'all 🤍
#96
August 31 · 24 min
What The Biggest Loser Got Wrong About Weight Loss | Episode 96
In this episode, we're using The Biggest Loser as a case study for what actually creates lasting weight loss and what doesn't. The show produced some incredible transformations, but many contestants eventually regained the weight. So what can we learn from it? We break down three of the biggest problems: using shame and self-hate as motivation, chasing extreme results that aren't sustainable, and creating an environment where losing weight is easy without teaching people how to maintain those habits in real life. Because losing weight isn't the same thing as learning how to keep it off. Connect With Us Mackenzie Twitter: https://x.com/smithhmackenzie LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/smithhmackenzie/ Laurence Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bestlifedude/ Twitter: https://x.com/bestlifedude/ If You Enjoyed This Episode Send it to someone who's tired of constantly losing weight just to gain it back. Subscribe, leave us a review, and we'll catch you in the next one.
#95
August 24 · 29 min
Your Health Is Getting Whatever Is Left Over | Episode 95
In this episode, we're talking about something that has a much bigger impact on your health than most people realize: boundaries. Because most people already know they should work out, eat better, and get more sleep. The problem is that they haven't actually protected the time, energy, and space in their life to do those things. We talk about what it looks like when work, relationships, your phone, social obligations, and everyone else's needs constantly get access to you — while your own health gets whatever is left over. We also dive into setting clearer boundaries around your time, energy, food environment, work, relationships, and even yourself, and why deciding those boundaries before you're exhausted or stressed makes them much easier to keep. Because boundaries aren't selfish. They're how you protect your health, energy, relationships, and ability to actually show up for the people you care about. Interested in working with us? If you're realizing your health has been getting whatever is left over and you're ready to finally prioritize yourself, we have a few spots open for coaching this month. We'll sit down, learn more about where you're at, what you've been struggling with, and what you're trying to accomplish to see if we can support you. Apply for coaching here: https://form.jotform.com/211409119511042 --- Connect With Us Mackenzie Twitter: https://x.com/smithhmackenzie LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/smithhmackenzie/ Laurence Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bestlifedude/ Twitter: https://x.com/bestlifedude/ If You Enjoyed This Episode Send it to someone who needs the reminder that taking care of yourself isn't selfish. Set one boundary this week, protect it, and we'll catch you in the next one.
#94
August 17 · 41 min
Why You Keep Falling Back Into Old Habits (And How to Finally Break Them) | Episode 94
Whether it's grabbing a glass of wine after work, scrolling before bed, emotionally eating when you're stressed, or starting over every Monday, most habits aren't a lack of discipline—they're patterns you've been reinforcing for years. In this episode, we dive into why breaking habits feels so difficult, how your daily routines become automatic, and why simply relying on willpower almost never works. More importantly, we discuss practical ways to interrupt those patterns and begin building healthier ones that actually last. If you've ever felt like you're stuck repeating the same cycle despite knowing exactly what you "should" be doing, this episode is for you. Resources Mentioned: 10 ways to get ~50g of protein in under 10 minutes: https://fitwithmackenzie.com/protein Apply to work with us: https://form.jotform.com/211409119511042 Connect with Us: Mackenzie X: https://x.com/smithhmackenzie Mackenzie LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/smithhmackenzie/ Laurence Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bestlifedude/
#93
August 10 · 52 min
The Future of Health? Everything You Need to Know About Peptides | ft. Dr. Edwin Spencer
In this episode, we're joined by orthopedic surgeon and performance medicine physician Dr. Edwin Spencer to break down one of the biggest topics in health right now: peptides. We separate the science from the hype, discuss where peptides may actually be beneficial, and why they're never a replacement for the fundamentals of nutrition, exercise, and healthy habits. We cover: What peptides are and how they work The most popular peptides, including BPC-157, TB-500, CJC-1295, and GLP-1s How peptides may support recovery, healing, muscle growth, and performance The difference between peptides and growth hormone Why sourcing and quality matter when considering peptides The current research, what we know, and what we still don't know Why peptides should complement healthy habits—not replace them How sleep, resistance training, nutrition, and VO₂ max still have the biggest impact on your long-term health If You Enjoyed This Episode Share this episode with someone who's curious about peptides or looking for an evidence-based discussion on where they fit into health, performance, and longevity. We'll catch you in the next one.
#92
August 3 · 41 min
Your Body Is Not the Problem: The Inner Work Nobody Talks About in Fitness | Episode 92
In this episode, we're diving into something we believe is at the root of almost every health and fitness transformation: the inner work. Because for most people, the biggest obstacle isn't a lack of knowledge. It's the deeper beliefs, patterns, and identities that keep pulling them back into the same cycles. We talk about why emotional eating, perfectionism, people-pleasing, fear of failure, tying your worth to achievement, and constantly staying busy aren't just mindset issues—they become fitness issues. Until those patterns change, no workout program or meal plan will ever stick for long. More Resources Apply to work with us: https://form.jotform.com/211409119511042 Connect with Us: Mackenzie X: https://x.com/smithhmackenzie Mackenzie LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/smithhmackenzie/ Laurence Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bestlifedude/
#91
July 27 · 55 min
How to Fuel for Performance, Recovery & Long-Term Health with Krystal Goodman
In this episode, we're joined by functional nutritional therapy practitioner, personal trainer, and Boston Marathon qualifier Krystal Goodman to talk about what it really takes to build a healthy lifestyle that lasts. From qualifying for the Boston Marathon on just her second attempt to helping busy adults simplify nutrition and fitness, Krystal shares the mindset, habits, and strategies that have helped both her and her clients succeed without chasing perfection. Connect With Krystal Instagram: @thekleannutritionist Facebook: Krystal Anne Goodman Website: kleanourish.com YouTube: @thekleannutritionist If You Enjoyed This Episode Share it with someone who's looking to simplify their health, improve their performance, and build habits that actually last. Appreciate y'all!
#90
July 20 · 43 min
The Truth About GLP-1s: Are they worth it? | Episode 90
We’re cutting through the noise around one of the biggest topics in health and fitness right now: GLP-1 medications like Ozempic, Wegovy, and Zepbound. We discuss what they actually do, who they may be appropriate for, and why there’s so much confusion surrounding them. More importantly, we talk about why GLP-1s are a tool—not a magic solution. Yes, they can be incredibly effective for weight loss and appetite regulation. But without building the right habits alongside them, many people end up losing muscle, regaining the weight, or never addressing the behaviors that led them there in the first place. If you're trying to lose weight without relying on extremes, download our 5 Steps to Drop Your Next 5 Pounds Guide below. https://fitwithmackenzie.com/next5lbs Connect With Us Mackenzie Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fit_with_mackenzie/ Twitter: https://x.com/smithhmackenzie LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/smithhmackenzie/ Laurence Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bestlifedude/ Twitter: https://x.com/bestlifedude/ If You Enjoyed This Episode Share this episode with someone who's on a GLP-1, considering one, or simply wants to better understand the pros, cons, and how to use them the right way. Appreciate y'all!
#89
July 13 · 25 min
Why Winning Won't Fix You: What Scripture Teaches Us About Discipline, Rest, and Identity | Episode 89
In this episode, we’re diving into a different side of health and fitness: the spiritual side. We talk about what Scripture teaches us about discipline, rest, identity, and the way we pursue our goals. Because so many of us spend our lives chasing the next “gold medal” that looks like the weight loss goal, six pack, the promotion or the next achievement. But what happens when you finally get there… and realize it doesn’t fix everything? We dive into why external achievements will never create internal fulfillment, how your identity has to be built on something deeper, and why the reason behind your goals matters just as much as the goals themselves. Connect With Us Mackenzie Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fit_with_mackenzie/ Twitter: https://x.com/smithhmackenzie LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/smithhmackenzie/ Laurence Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bestlifedude/ Twitter: https://x.com/bestlifedude/ If You Enjoyed This Episode Send this to someone who needs the reminder that they don’t need another achievement to prove their worth. And make sure you're subscribed so you don't miss future episodes. We'll catch you in the next one.
#88
July 6 · 35 min
Life Lately: Faith, Fitness, and What We've Been Called To This Season | Episode 88
In this episode, we're keeping things casual and catching you up on what's been going on behind the scenes. We talk about everything from our recent vacations and where we're at in our own fitness journeys to the stress we've been navigating lately and how pulling back instead of pushing harder has actually been one of the biggest lessons this season. Along the way, we share some client wins, behind-the-scenes updates, and the conversations we've been having lately that have shaped how we're thinking about health, purpose, and personal growth. Connect With Us Mackenzie Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fit_with_mackenzie/ Twitter: https://x.com/smithhmackenzie LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/smithhmackenzie/ Laurence Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bestlifedude/ Twitter: https://x.com/bestlifedude/
#87
June 29 · 49 min
Training While Injured: What to Do When Your Body Isn't at 100%
Getting injured doesn't mean your health journey has to stop - but for most people, that's exactly what happens. One of the most common things we hear from everyone is: "I can't do anything right now because I'm injured." In this episode, we break down exactly what to focus on when you're injured, how to train around an injury instead of through it, why rehab deserves the same intentionality as your training, and the all-or-nothing mindset that costs people months of progress every single time. If you're currently dealing with an injury, recovering from surgery, or just in a season where things aren't at 100% - this episode is for you. Whether you're training at 100% or recovering from something, the fundamentals still matter. Grab our free 5 Steps to Drop Your Next 5 Pounds guide 0 it walks you through exactly what we focus on with clients to keep making progress without overhauling your life: 👉 https://fitwithmackenzie.com/next5lbs
#86
June 22 · 22 min
The "All In" Trap: Why Waiting for the Perfect Time Is Keeping You Stuck
"I just have too much going on right now." "When things calm down, I'll go all in." Sound familiar? In this episode of the Endless Pursuit Podcast, we tackle one of the most common things they hear from people who want to change their health and fitness - and one of the most misunderstood mindsets holding them back. The truth is, the perfect time to start is never coming. And the all-or-nothing mentality that sounds like motivation is actually the thing keeping most people stuck in the same cycles for months, even years. Through real client stories including Josh, who started his health journey before an unexpected quadruple bypass surgery that his preparation may have helped him survive - this episode reframes what "giving your all" actually looks like in real life. It's not about 100% effort every day. It's about showing up with whatever you have, in whatever season you're in, and not letting perfect be the enemy of progress. If you've been waiting for the right time to start, this episode is for you. If you're ready to stop overthinking food and make eating healthy actually simple, grab our free High Protein Recipe Guide 👉 https://www.skool.com/fitness-mental-mastery-3445
#85
June 15 · 28 min
The Consistency Mistake Almost Everyone Makes | Episode 85
In this episode, we're talking about one of the biggest reasons people feel like they're constantly starting over with their health and fitness. Most people do fine when life is structured. The challenge comes when weekends, travel, busy work seasons, vacations, and unexpected life events disrupt the routine. We break down why this usually isn't a discipline problem—it's an adaptation problem. We discuss how to stay consistent when life gets less predictable, why anchor habits matter more than perfect routines, how a few minutes of planning can save you hours of stress, and why the people who maintain results long term are the ones who learn how to adjust instead of starting over. If you feel like you're constantly starting over every weekend, vacation, or busy season, grab my 5 Steps to Drop Your Next 5 Pounds Guide here: https://fitwithmackenzie.com/next5lbs Connect With Us Mackenzie Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fit_with_mackenzie/ Twitter: https://x.com/smithhmackenzie LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/smithhmackenzie/ Laurence Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bestlifedude/ Twitter: https://x.com/bestlifedude/ Share this with a friend, it helps us a ton! And we'll catch you in the next one.

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