Bula COP31!

Heidi Dumesich and Jack Whelan

Bula COP31 is a podcast for anyone wanting to understand what it means for Australia and the Türkiye to co-host COP31 in 2026, and why this moment is influential in the UNFCCC process. Australia will be putting the Pacific Islands at the forefront of the climate negotiations to ensure adaptation and infrastructure investments flow to the region.

Your hosts are Heidi Dumesich and Jack Whelan.

Jack is a proud boomer who started his sustainability career long before it was considered ‘cool’. His experience spans the earliest COPs and reaches across business, industry, government, development agencies, NGOs, and the UN. He’s worked with the International Chamber of Commerce and the World Business Council on Sustainable Development; and across Asia-Pacific with the Pacific Region Infrastructure Facility, Asian Development Bank, and World Bank. Jack was nominated by Australia’s Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade to the design team that established the IRIS initiative, supporting climate- and disaster-resilient infrastructure in Small Island Developing States — work that sits at the heart of Pacific climate priorities.

Heidi Dumesich is a millennial environmental scientist focused on implementing practical solutions. She’s the seasoned podcaster behind Life on Planet A, and currently a Sustainability Manager at Ventia, leading an Infrastructure Sustainability Council rating for a major road project. Heidi brings a fresh, grounded perspective on climate action and how sustainability plays out across communities and sectors.

Bula COP31 explores what really happens behind the scenes of a COP — with a special focus on how Pacific leadership, values, and voices shape the global climate agenda. Through candid conversations with stakeholders across Pacific governments, Australian agencies, industry, civil society, youth, and community groups, we unpack how climate diplomacy in our region is driven by relationships, resilience, and shared responsibility.

Whether you're a policymaker, business leader, activist, Pacific climate champion, or simply COP-curious, this podcast is your guide to getting the most out of COP31 — and understanding how it can deliver for the Blue Pacific Continent.

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S2 · E11
Monday · 36 min
Episode 'U' for Upolu: Decarbonising Global Shipping with Jenny Ruffell Smith
Shipping produces around 3% of global emissions, yet almost everything we buy has travelled by sea at some point. In Episode U, Heidi and Jack are joined by Jenny Ruffell Smith, Senior Project Manager at the Global Maritime Forum, to unpack one of the hardest sectors to decarbonise. Jenny has spent almost two decades in shipping and logistics. She explains why there's no silver-bullet fuel, from wind-assisted sails and biofuels to methanol and ammonia. She also walks us through the Western Australia–East Asia Iron Ore Green Shipping Corridor, the world's largest bulk shipping route, and what it will take to run it on ammonia. We cover the cost gap, policy uncertainty at the IMO, and why electrification suits ferries but not deep-sea trade. We also look at why shipping is a lifeline for Pacific communities, from food and fuel security to connecting islands, and what Jenny's team is planning for the Pre-COP in Fiji and COP31 in Antalya. Named for Upolu, the main island of Samoa and home to Apia, this episode is a reminder that decarbonising shipping is about future-proofing global trade. Links: Green Shipping Cooridors report Getting to Zero Coalition Follow us on our socials for more content: Instagram & LinkedIn
August 20 · 37 min
Episode 'T' for Tonga: Plastics, Policy and the Pacific with WWF John Duncan
This episode, we're joined by John Duncan, Global Initiative Lead for WWF's No Plastics in Nature program, to unpack the Global Plastics Treaty — often called the most significant environmental agreement since Paris. John breaks down why voluntary corporate action hasn't moved the needle, how a 330+ company business coalition is pushing governments for binding rules, and why extended producer responsibility (EPR) could be the single biggest lever for change. We dig into the sticking points stalling negotiations, why the Pacific is ground zero for the plastic-climate-biodiversity connection, and what "circular economy" solutions actually look like beyond recycling. Plus: laser-printed fruit labels, compostable nappies in Vanuatu, and why refill-and-reuse systems might beat "eco" materials altogether. Links: John Duncan LinkedIn https://www.ellenmacarthurfoundation.org/business-coalition-for-a-global-plastics-treaty https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2026/aug/13/new-un-plastic-treaty-going-backwards-experts https://www.linkedin.com/posts/did-you-see-the-latest-development-in-the-share-7495478417866391553-QuL4/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktop&rcm=ACoAABcNHiUBeH_j_Dyo4tHVOsvmulrogj21M6E Follow us on our socials for more content: Instagram & LinkedIn
August 9 · 18 min
Episode 'S' for Solomon Islands: The Case for Electrification - Part 2 with Jon Jutsen
Jon Jutsen returns to Bula COP31 to unpack the messier middle of the energy transition: where biofuels and biogas still have a role in hard-to-abate sectors like mining, farming and remote transport, and whether Australia's electricity grid is actually ready for the wave of EVs and heat pumps about to hit it. Jutsen makes the case that biodiesel is a short-term bridge at best, that biogas is underused in agriculture and rural industry, and that our networks — built for a world of dozens of new connection applications a year, not thousands — are racing to catch up. The conversation turns to a bigger question: are big centralised transmission networks becoming redundant as we shift toward local, distributed grids? Jutsen thinks the answer is nuanced — networks aren't going away, but their role is changing fast. A must-listen ahead of COP31 for anyone tracking Australia and the Pacific's electrification journey. Follow us on our socials for more content: Instagram & LinkedIn
S2 · E10
July 26 · 37 min
Episode 'S' for Samoa - Electrification target of 35% - Realistic or Aspiration for Australia?
Can Australia hit net zero without a clear plan to get there? In this episode of Bula COP31, we sit down with energy transition expert Jonathan Jutsen to unpack what it will really take to electrify Australia's economy by 2035. Jon has spent decades working at the intersection of energy policy and business, and he doesn't pull punches: Australia's energy transition remains deeply politicised, market forces (not policy) are currently driving renewables adoption, and without a detailed, bottom-up operational plan, the 35% electrification target risks becoming another missed milestone. We cover what's genuinely improved in renewable uptake, why bipartisanship has been so hard to find, sector-by-sector realities of electrification, lessons Australia could take from Norway, and the case for microgrids and local energy solutions as the grid strains to keep up. We also touch on the future of biofuels and renewable diesel for the hard-to-abate sectors electrification can't easily reach. This episode also pays tribute to Fiona Wain, remembered as a high-energy voice who was never short of an opinion — and whose impact on the sector's thinking runs through much of this conversation. 👤 Guest: Jonathan Jutsen LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanjutsen/ Follow us on our socials for more content: Instagram & LinkedIn
S2 · E9
July 1 · 18 min
Episode 'R' for Rarotonga: COP31 Türkiye Brief Part 2
Heidi continues her conversation with Selen İnal, founder of the COP31 Türkiye Brief, picking up where they left off at the Zero Waste Forum. This episode dives into the climate issue hiding in plain sight — waste. Selen breaks down why methane from poorly managed organic waste is one of the most dangerous and underrated climate threats, and unpacks the circular economy challenge: which plastics can actually be recycled, why the EU's new digital product passport could change everything, and a confronting question raised at the Forum — why are developed nations still exporting their waste to developing countries? The conversation also turns to representation, with reflections on meeting Australia's COP31 Youth Climate Champion Sally Higgins, and why having a young woman from an agricultural background in that role matters far beyond symbolism. Heidi and Selen also touch on the Subsidiary Bodies meetings currently underway in Bonn — the dense, high-level negotiations that shape what actually gets discussed at COP. 🔗 Follow the COP31 Türkiye Brief: cop31tr.com | LinkedIn: COP31 Türkiye Brief Follow us on our socials for more content: Instagram & LinkedIn
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June 18 · 21 min
Episode 'Q' for Queensland & Queenstown: COP31 Türkiye Brief
Recorded right after Australia's surprise 2-0 World Cup win over Türkiye, Heidi sat down with Selen İnal — founder and editor of the COP31 Türkiye Brief (cop31tr.com) — for a wide-ranging conversation that covers everything from waste and electrification to women in climate leadership and what makes Turkish coffee so special. Selen is a Turkish engineer, entrepreneur and climate communicator who has attended four COPs and built an independent, volunteer-run platform to bring technical expertise and diverse voices into the COP conversation. Her portal — free to publish in for anyone with 10+ years of experience in energy transition or climate change — is fast becoming one of the most rigorous sources of COP31 commentary outside the formal negotiating rooms. In this episode they cover: 🔋 Electrification — the 35% electrification target announced at SB62 in Bonn, why coupling electrification with phasing out fossil fuels is non-negotiable, and why the Socceroos' "just score more goals" strategy might be a metaphor for the energy transition ♻️ Zero Waste Forum in Istanbul — what happened when two thousand participants packed a plenary room under a ceiling of ocean projections, why methane from organic waste is one of the most underestimated climate problems, and why copy-pasting European circular economy solutions into developing countries doesn't work 🌍 Waste and the global south — the uncomfortable conversation at the forum about developed countries exporting their waste problems to less developed ones 👩 Women in climate leadership — why Sally Higgins as Australia's youth climate champion matters, why three of the five current UN Secretary-General candidates are women, and what having a woman in that role for the first time in history could mean 🤝 Turkey and Australia — two countries whose destinies are suddenly intertwined through a shared COP presidency, a World Cup match and a growing desire to actually fix this thing 🔗 Follow the COP31 Türkiye Brief: cop31tr.com | LinkedIn: COP31 Türkiye Brief Follow us on our socials for more content: Instagram & LinkedIn
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June 7 · 25 min
Episode 'P' for Palau: The Palau Pledge
With COP31 just six months away, Heidi brings Jack — and all of us — up to speed on the rapidly shifting climate diplomacy landscape. From Istanbul to Bonn, Palau to Queensland, this episode maps the crowded pre-COP calendar and asks what it all adds up to. COP31 host Turkey is ramping up its diplomatic presence: COP President Murat Kurum is in constant motion — most recently at the Copenhagen Climate Ministerial, where he joined Azerbaijan and Brazil in signing the "Belem Mission to 1.5" — a joint push to strengthen national climate contributions, accelerate adaptation, and scale up implementation. And UN Climate High-Level Champion Samed Agirbas is consulting stakeholders on what earns a place on the Action Agenda. We share our conversation with Selen Inal, founder of the COP31 Turkiye Brief — a must-follow resource as Antalya approaches. Plus, Australia and Turkey's joint COP31 Youth Climate Champion has been announced: Sally Higgins, a farmer from Queensland, who'll be saying Bula! to us soon. In the Pacific, preparations are intensifying. A Pacific Islands Forum Leaders Meeting in Palau in September carries the theme BELAU — Building Economies, Life, Action, Unity. A Pre-COP lands in Fiji in October. And a landmark new Pacific Resilience Facility has been established by Treaty, with Australia making a substantial initial contribution to channel climate finance to vulnerable island states. And before all of that: the SB64 Subsidiary Body meetings open in Bonn on 8 June, where government officials will be hammering out the technical and policy groundwork for COP31 negotiations on finance, mitigation, adaptation, and transparency. #BulaCOP32 #COP31 #ClimateAction #UNFCCC #PacificClimate #ClimateFinance #Belem #NetZero #PacificResilience #ClimateJustice #COP31Turkiye #SB64 #Bonn #ClimatePolicy #Pacific #Palau #Fiji #Tuvalu #MarshallIslands #Vanuatu #YouthClimate #Podcast #ClimatePodcast #Sustainability #GlobalClimateAction Links from the podcast: https://www.palaupledge.com/ unfccc.int › sb64June Climate Meetings (SB64) - UNFCCC https://globalzerowasteforum.org https://sdg.iisd.org/events/55th-pacific-islands-forum-leaders-meeting/ Follow us on our socials for more content: Instagram & LinkedIn
S2 · E6
April 14 · 51 min
Episode 'O' Oceania: The Future of COP with Fossil Versus Future
This episode is part two of our collaboration with Fossil vs Future—we recommend listening to part one first. As the world looks ahead to COP31 this November, hosted by Türkiye with Australia leading the negotiations, this episode brings together voices from across continents and generations. Jack and Heidi are joined by James Cameron and Daisy Nicholls (hosts of Fossil Versus Future) for a timely conversation on what we hope—and need—to see from this year’s conference. Together, we unpack the key questions shaping COP31: What will make it onto the Action Agenda? Why is the Fossil Fuel Non-Proliferation Treaty Initiative gaining momentum? And if we could write it ourselves, what should the COP31 closing speech actually say? Along the way, we explore the geopolitical and economic context underpinning the negotiations—from shifting energy systems to the role of emerging climate alliances—and reflect on what meaningful progress could look like in a critical decade for climate action. Further listening & resources: United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change – Learn more about the Paris Agreement and Article 6 International Energy Agency – Data and analysis on global energy trends International Institute for Sustainable Development – Follow negotiations through the Earth Negotiations Bulletin Thanks for listening—and be sure to follow Bula COP31 to stay part of the conversation. Follow us on our socials for more content: Instagram & LinkedIn
S2 · E5
April 1 · 39 min
Episode 'N' for Nauru: COP31 with Fossil Versus Future
Episode intro / context: COP31 will be held in Antalya, Türkiye, from 9 to 20 November 2026 — but the Pacific is at the centre of it all. While Türkiye handles the logistics and operations of the conference, Australia will lead the negotiations. And crucially, the Pre-COP will be hosted right here in Fiji, supported by the Government of Australia. For us at Bula COP31, this is exactly what we've been advocating for: an unprecedented opportunity to bring the world to the Pacific, to witness climate impacts and solutions firsthand. Episode description: In this collaborative, cross-continental episode, we're joined by James and Daisy — hosts of Fossil Versus Future— for an intergenerational conversation about the COP process. Jack and Heidi sit down with James, who takes the hot seat to share what he's witnessed on the ground at previous COPs. How can the COP presidency shape outcomes? How does geopolitics drive climate diplomacy? And is it time for the process itself to be reformed? Recommendations: Want to go deeper on the co-hosting arrangement between Australia and Türkiye? That's exactly what we unpack on Bula COP31 — give us a listen. Advocates & Resources: Türkiye holds the formal COP31 Presidency, managing all operational and logistical requirements, with the conference and World Leaders Summit physically taking place in Antalya. But Australia's Minister for Climate Change and Energy, Chris Bowen, will serve as President of Negotiations — a role with exclusive authority over the agenda, draft texts, and appointment of co-facilitators. This creative arrangement was designed to break a diplomatic deadlock that would otherwise have sent the conference to Bonn, Germany, and left the world without focused negotiation leadership for a year. An intergovernmental organisation giving voice to small island nations on the issues that threaten their very existence. BINGO (Business and Industry Non-Governmental Organizations) — the formal constituency representing business and industry observers within the UNFCCC process. Originally founded in 1971 as the South Pacific Forum, the Pacific Islands Forum is an 18-member intergovernmental body that unites the region to tackle its most pressing challenges — including the climate crisis. The Carbon War by Jeremy Leggett — A firsthand account of the climate negotiations and the relentless efforts of fossil fuel interests — the so-called "carbon club" — to derail them. Essential reading for anyone wanting to understand the politics behind the process. The precautionary principle: the idea that when harm is plausible, we act — even before the science is complete. A principle the Pacific has long called on the world to apply. (2017) — Just weeks before hosting COP23, Fiji made history by issuing a sovereign green bond, raising FJD 100m (USD 50m) to fund climate mitigation and adaptation. Pacific leadership in action. (2018) — Talanoa is a Pacific tradition: inclusive, participatory, transparent dialogue. When Fiji held the COP23 Presidency, it brought Talanoa to the world stage — launching the Talanoa Dialogue to invite everyone into the conversation about climate solutions. That spirit lives on in everything we do at Bula COP31. Follow us on our socials for more content: Instagram & LinkedIn
S2 · E4
March 27 · 20 min
Episode 'M' for Marshall Islands: Inside Climate Action Week
Most of us feel powerless in the face of climate change—and yet, change is happening right now, driven by everyday citizens and global leaders alike. What if your voice could shape international negotiations? And how is Australia’s unique dual-presidency at COP 31 positioned to prioritize the vulnerable Pacific Islands? In this episode, Heidi and Jack take you inside Climate Action Week Sydney, a massive week of advocacy, policy, and community-led initiatives that influence the biggest climate negotiations on the planet. Discover how local events and grassroots activism are directly impacting global climate policies, with behind-the-scenes insights from key leaders like Minister Chris Bowen and grassroots innovators like Mary Jack from Vanuatu. We break down how the Pacific's is shaping COP 31, the significance of the upcoming Fiji pre-COP, and hear from climate advocates amplifying Indigenous and women-led voices. You'll learn about the critical role that community input plays in forming official negotiation positions and why this moment is more important than ever for those who want to make a difference. Voxies from: - Chris Bowen, Minister for Climate Change and Energy - Eezu Tan, Founder of Climate Writers - Dr. Amba-Rose Atkinson, Indigenous Researcher -Mary Jack, Founder of Mitingar Women and Girls Association Follow us on our socials for more content: Instagram & LinkedIn
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February 19 · 14 min
Episode 'L' for Luganville: Youth Voices from the Pacific - Part 2
This is part 2 of our episode with Kenta Sayama, the Climate and Environment specialist in UNICEF Vanuatu. In Part 2, we shift the conversation to how young people can turn passion into action through UNICEF. We explore the pathways available for youth to engage — from joining national youth advisory groups and participating in advocacy campaigns, to contributing to community programs that shape policy outcomes for children and young people on the frontlines of climate change. Why does this matter? Because youth aren’t just future leaders — they are shaping solutions today. Understanding how to plug into established institutions like UNICEF opens doors for impact, amplifies grassroots voices, and strengthens collective action across borders. Without this engagement, critical perspectives from young people — particularly in climate-vulnerable regions — risk being overlooked. Links and resources: Get involved with PICAN and VCAN UNICEF - Australia Pacific Youth Climate Dialogue Background information on the International Court of Justice (ICJ) advisory opinion on climate justice Vanuatu Coastal Adaptation Project (VCAP) Follow us on our socials for more content: Instagram & LinkedIn
S2 · E2
February 6 · 33 min
Episode 'K' for Kenta: Youth Voices from the Pacific
In this episode, Bula COP31 has a special guest all the way from Vanuatu, Kenta Sayama, the Climate and Environment specialist in UNICEF Vanuatu. Kenta shares his inspiring personal journey from Japan to the Pacific, revealing how international experiences in Brazil, the UK, and Japan have shaped his innovative approach to climate advocacy. He dives into the unique challenges small island nations face — from rising sea levels and saltwater intrusion to the cultural and mental health impacts of climate change — and explains how new financial mechanisms like the Loss and Damage Fund and Green Climate Fund are opening doors for vulnerable countries. You'll learn about real projects like Vanuatu’s Coastal Adaptation Project (VCAP) and the Pacific Resilience Facility, which are helping communities build real resilience against climate impacts. We break down the most effective strategies for youth engagement, from grassroots networks like Vanuatu Climate Action Network (VCAN) and Pacific Islands Climate Action Network (PICAN) to navigating the daunting logistics of remote island participation. Kenta emphasizes the importance of cultural understanding, contextual solutions, and ensuring youth voices lead climate negotiations, not just attend as token figures. He highlights the historic influence of Vanuatu's Pacific youth in global judicial actions like the International Court of Justice (ICJ) advisory opinion on climate justice — a groundbreaking moment in international law that affirms our collective responsibility to act. Why does this matter? Because the future of climate resilience hinges on local-level action, global solidarity, and inclusive leadership. Missing out on this vital insight risks perpetuating a cycle where small island voices are drowned out, and effective climate solutions remain out of reach. This episode is an essential listen for policymakers, activists, young leaders, and anyone invested in climate justice — because real change starts by amplifying the voices that are most at risk. Prepare to be inspired, informed, and motivated to make a difference. Whether you’re a Pacific youth seeking guidance, a global citizen passionate about climate justice, or a supporter of empowering local action, this conversation reveals the bold steps needed to turn hope into tangible impact. Tune in now — your role in shaping a resilient Pacific starts here. Links and resources: Get involved with PICAN and VCAN UNICEF - Australia Pacific Youth Climate Dialogue Background information on the International Court of Justice (ICJ) advisory opinion on climate justice Vanuatu Coastal Adaptation Project (VCAP) Follow us on our socials for more content: Instagram & LinkedIn
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Dec 9, 2025 · 32 min
Episode 'J' for Jervis Bay: Bula COP31 - Pacific in the Spotlight
In this episode, Heidi and Jack discuss the outcomes of COP30 and of the COP31 hosting bib negotiations, reflecting on Australia's role in the negotiations and the implications for the Pacific Islands. They delve into the contentious issue of fossil fuels, the significance of unilateral trade measures like carbon border adjustments, and the importance of consumer responsibility in addressing climate change. The conversation highlights the need for collaboration and innovative solutions moving forward, particularly in the context of the Pacific region. Time Stamps: 3:19 Thoughts on COP31 hosting bid outcome 8:50 Fossil Fuel Roadmap 18:44 Unilateral Trade Mechanism Debate Keywords COP 30, climate change, Australia, fossil fuels, negotiations, Pacific Islands, trade measures, carbon emissions, consumer responsibility, climate finance Sources mentioned in the podcast: Trump trade wars keep Labor's carbon tariff on ice Colombia Press Conference - Declaration Just Transition Away from Fossil Fuels at COP30 Follow us on our socials for more content: Instagram & LinkedIn
S1 · E9
Nov 19, 2025 · 31 min
Episode ‘I’ for Ipswich: COP31 on the brink with Mara Bún
In this episode ‘I’ for Ipswich, on G’day COP31! (or will it be renamed ‘I’ for Istanbul?) we are joined by Mara Bún from the Australia-Brazil Chamber of Commerce, refreshed after a rest day at the start of the second week of COP30 in Belém, Brazil. Among all the important issues being addressed is the BIG question that hangs in the balance - the choice of Türkiye or Australia as the host country for COP31 in 2026? Mara Bún navigates us through the labyrinth in the COP, sharing her insights and personal encounters from the heart of the Blue (Bluey?) and Green Zones in crowded, hot, steamy Belém. Mara helped to set up an extraordinary impromptu press conference, right at the nexus between the Turkish and Australian pavilions, when representatives of Australian First Nations, businesses, civil society, youth and investors expressed their support for the Adelaide COP31 bid. With a steady hand holding the camera, Mara posted on Linked In “Cometh the hour, cometh the people” - which resulted in the story being covered in the Australian Financial Review, Bloomberg, Carbon Pulse, CNBC Brazil, Politico, AP and Reneweconomy - https://lnkd.in/gSc8HvBU Richie Merzian, head of the Clean Energy Investor Group – moderated the line up of speakers from Australia, including Professor Anne Poelina, Larissa Baldwin-Roberts, Tennant Reed and we include some edited highlights – so listen to the end of the episode! You can listen to the full press conference here. Thanks Mara for the chat on Episode ‘I’ for Ipswich – from Belém on G’day COP31! Chapters 00:00 Introduction 04:40 COP31 update 14:04 Inside COP30 19:48 Unilateral trade measures debate 25:24 Press conference about COP31 Follow us on our socials for more content: Instagram & LinkedIn
Nov 7, 2025 · 24 min
Episode 'H' for Hobart: Tegan Clark Empowering Youth at COP
In this episode, we chat with Tegan Clark, a PhD candidate at ANU and research assistant at the Global Institute for Women’s Leadership, about her journey from growing up in Cairns to becoming a leading youth voice in climate action. Tegan shares how her connection with nature shaped her decision to get involved in climate activism. She talks about her experience at COP29 with Plan International Australia’s Youth Activist Series, the importance of interdisciplinary science, and her work advocating for stronger youth engagement in global climate negotiations. We also discuss Tegan’s submission to Department of Climate Change, Energy, the Environment and Water (DCCEEW), the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade (DFAT) for COP31, which focuses on breaking down barriers to youth participation, and the role of initiatives like the Australian Pacific Youth Climate Dialogue in empowering young climate leaders. Tune in to hear Tegan’s vision for a COP where young people’s voices are not just present — they’re truly heard and valued. Links: The Australia Pacific Youth Climate Dialogue COP31: A COP for Children and Young People Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Tegan Clark 03:39 Journey to Climate Activism 07:27 Experiences at COP29 11:17 Fossil fuel companies at COPs 13:04 Submission for COP31: A COP for Children and Young People 16:16 Australian Pacific Youth Climate Dialogue 19:10 Learning from Pacific Youth and First Nations Perspectives 20:19 Training Programs for Youth Engagement 23:15 Confidence for Youth at COPs 25:30 Overcoming Challenges in Diverse Backgrounds Follow us on our socials for more content: Instagram & LinkedIn
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Oct 28, 2025 · 19 min
Episode 'G' for Gold Coast: Inside the Investor Group on Climate Change Summit 2025
Join Jack and Heidi as they take you behind the scenes at the Investor Group on Climate Change (IGCC) Summit 2025 in Sydney. G’day COP31 was invited to the two-day event to uncover where the investment community sees capital flowing in climate-related opportunities — and how policy and COP31 can act as catalysts for scaling up climate investment. The IGCC Summit is where Australia’s leading investors, policymakers, and sustainability experts come together to unpack a wave of climate-related announcements shaping risk, returns, and fiduciary responsibility. With Australia facing one of the fastest-evolving climate policy environments in the world — and trillions in retirement savings at stake — the summit focuses on turning today’s climate challenges into tomorrow’s investment opportunities. In this episode, you’ll hear exclusive recordings from keynote and panel sessions featuring: Al Gore, Founding Partner and Chairman, Generation Investment Management Deidre Willmott, Strategic Advisor, Global Sustainability and External Affairs, Fortescue Michael Bartlett, Acting Branch Head, DCCEEW Kate Donnelly, Impact and Unlisted Investment Manager, Future Group Richie Merzian, CEO Clean Energy Investor Group And finally, we wrap up with closing insights from Rebecca Mikula-Wright, CEO of IGCC. Time Stamps: 0:00 - Introduction and Jack's feelings 3:17 - Introduction to IGCC and the importance of it 7:37 - Al Gore 10:49 - Deidre Willmot and Michael Bartlett 13:40 - Kate Donnelly 15:08 - Richie Merzian 17:44 - Rebecca Mikula-Wright Follow us on our socials for more content: Instagram & LinkedIn
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Sep 19, 2025 · 28 min
Episode 'F' for Fremantle: The Future of Climate Negotiations
Keywords COP31, climate change, Turkey, Australia, carbon trading, climate finance, Pacific Islands, virtual engagement, adaptation, negotiations Summary In this episode of G'day COP31, hosts Heidi Dumesich and Jack Whelan discuss the current status of Australia's bid to host COP31, the implications of Turkey's involvement, and the challenges faced in organizing the event. They explore the importance of virtual engagement in climate discussions, the need for Australia to strengthen diplomatic relations with Pacific Islands, and the complexities surrounding carbon trading mechanisms under Article 6 of the Paris Agreement. The conversation highlights the significance of adaptation and climate finance for developing countries, particularly in the Pacific region, and concludes with a call for future engagement and expert discussions on these critical topics. Takeaways Australia's bid for COP31 is under threat from Turkey. The Pacific Islands support Australia's bid for COP31. If no consensus is reached, COP31 will default to Bonn, Germany. Virtual engagement can enhance participation in COP discussions. Australia's climate risk assessment highlights urgent issues. Diplomatic relations with Pacific Islands are crucial for Australia. Article 6 of the Paris Agreement focuses on carbon trading mechanisms. Countries face challenges in accessing climate finance for adaptation. Education on carbon markets is essential for developing countries. Future discussions will focus on specific themes within climate negotiations. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Weekend Activities 01:14 COP31 Bid Status and Negotiations 04:08 Potential Hosting Challenges and Events 05:36 Virtual Engagement and COP Participation 06:54 Downsizing COP31 and Stakeholder Engagement 09:19 Diplomatic Relations and Climate Ambitions 13:07 Climate Risks and Adaptation Needs 16:12 Focus on Specific Climate Issues 19:46 Understanding Carbon Trading Mechanisms 26:13 Conclusion and Future Discussions Links: Climate Week session on Article 6: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqMVP2QkRds&list=PLBcZ22cUY9RJT5Cp3K72BlPtp1eZQmztc&index=23 https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2025/sep/13/australias-cop31-bid-teeters-as-rival-turkey-refuses-to-withdraw https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/sep/15/pacific-islands-forum-pif-2025-five-key-takeaways Follow us on our socials for more content: Instagram & LinkedIn
Sep 3, 2025 · 29 min
Episode 'E' for Esperance: Afonso from Climate Crew
G'day everybody! In this episode, we sit down with Afonso, a sustainability innovator, entrepreneur, and community builder who’s shaping how organisations and people respond to the climate challenge. As the founder of NetNada, a sustainability reporting and carbon accounting software company, Afonso has helped Australian and global organisations meet climate-related disclosure requirements under AASB and CSRD, built the award-winning NetNada Academy that’s trained 150+ professionals, and delivered over 100 GHG-aligned carbon inventories. Afonso is also the co-founder of Pharmacycle, Australia’s only end-to-end recycling solution for the nation’s billion-sized blister pack problem, which has already achieved a 100% diversion rate, national coverage with 1,000+ drop-off points, and partnerships with major pharmacy chains. But this conversation isn’t about software and recycling—it’s about people and movements. Afonso is the coordinator of Climate Crew, a fast-growing community of 1,000+ members driving connection and action across Australia’s climate space. With COP31 set to take place in Adelaide, we discuss Climate Crew’s role as the “Unofficial Social Hub” of the conference: from breakfast clubs and evening meetups, to thematic gatherings on nature tech and climate finance, and a special focus on amplifying Pacific voices. We talk about the motivation behind Climate Crew, how it differs from other climate groups, and what legacy it hopes to leave at COP31—whether as advocates, connectors, or facilitators of the climate movement. If you want to understand the future of sustainability—from corporate disclosure to community-led climate action—this episode is for you. Links: https://www.altercop.com/australia https://www.pharmacycle.com.au/about https://www.netnada.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/company/myclimatecrew/posts/?feedView=all Follow us on our socials for more content: Instagram & LinkedIn
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Jul 31, 2025 · 32 min
Episode 'D' for Darwin: Youth Voices in Climate Policy with Diksha Duggal
In this episode, Diksha Duggal reflects on her path into the YOUNGO constituency and explores the critical role of youth in climate negotiations. She discusses the push for greater inclusivity, YOUNGO’s preparations for COP 30 and COP 31, and the importance of grassroots movements in shaping climate policy. Takeaways Diksha's journey into the Youngo constituency began with her passion for sustainability. Youngo serves as the collective voice for youth in climate negotiations. Inclusivity and youth engagement are crucial in climate discussions. Diksha emphasizes the importance of grassroots movements in climate activism. The upcoming COP 30 and COP 31 are pivotal for youth engagement. Every voice matters in the fight against climate change. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Youngo and Diksha's Journey 03:02 Understanding Youngo's Role in Climate Action 06:05 Preparing for COP 30: Strategies and Collaborations 08:11 Youth Engagement and Inclusivity in Climate Discussions 12:31 Addressing Key Issues Raised at SB 62 21:12 How do people get involved in YOUNGOs/ COP process 24:40 Mascot for COP30 - Curupira 26:12 Capacity Building for Youth Participation 28:00 Blueprint for Future COPs LINKS UNFCC YOUNGO website: https://unfccc.int/topics/action-for-climate-empowerment-children-and-youth/youth/youngo https://youngoclimate.org/ Links to become a YOUNGO member: https://docs.google.com/document/d/18eatDBTHPKJLCzBS9lsE17tzi8mPys5MiXmsGPTNdlA/edit?tab=t.0 https://forms.gle/SmLx8n3dezbtMWaC8 YOUNGO Unveils Strategic Policy Position at SB62: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/youngo-strategic-policy-position-youngo-unfccc-zgprc/ Conference of Youth (COY): https://unfccc.int/topics/education-and-youth/youngo/coy Follow us on our socials for more content: Instagram & LinkedIn
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Jul 25, 2025 · 35 min
Episode 'C' for Canberra: Reforming the COP: The Path to Efficiency
In this Episode ‘C for Canberra’ of G'day COP31!, Heidi and Jack explore recent calls by various civil society groups for reforms in the UNFCCC process - to address concerns about inclusivity, observer engagement, representation and participation. Some want so-called ‘vested interests’ to be limited or even excluded. The conversation focuses on efforts to involve diverse stakeholders in the climate dialogue to achieve meaningful outcomes. Takeaways Australia's bid for COP31 remains uncertain as Turkey continues to assert its position. The UNFCCC process is evolving in response to calls for inclusivity and effectiveness. Observers are seeking a more prominent role in negotiations, but how? Regional climate weeks will facilitate broader engagement and geographical representation. Limiting participation by certain interest groups in COP events is a complex issue. Accredited NGOs are clustered in stakeholder constituency groups. Resources: UNFCCC Constituency Focal Points - https://unfccc.int/documents/228031 UNFCCC Party (Country) Groupings – see https://unfccc.int/party-groupings#:~:text=The%20Umbrella%20Group%20is%20a,Federation%2C%20Ukraine%20and%20the%20US. UNFCCC Message to Constituencies of admitted NGOs – Climate Week 2, Addis Ababa, Ethiopia, 1-6 Sept 2025 https://unfccc.int/sites/default/files/resource/Notification_NGOs_ClimateWeek2.pdf Article about Australia’s bid to host COP31, The Guardian –https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2025/jun/28/albanese-will-need-to-resolve-the-standoff-with-turkey-if-australia-is-to-host-cop31 Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Context of COP31 03:00 The UNFCCC Bond Climate Meetings and Australia's Role 06:07 Improving the COP Process: Efficiency and Inclusivity 08:25 Observer Engagement 12:40 Managing Overcrowding and Participation Limits 19:06 Regional Climate Weeks: A New Approach 28:18 Vested Interests and Their Impact on Climate Negotiations 34:00 Conclusion and Future Directions Follow us on our socials for more content: Instagram & LinkedIn

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