
56. How to Save a Project's Budget and Keep Its Soul: Matt Lane of Unita
Every project has a moment when the pricing comes back and the room goes quiet. Matt Lane, CEO of Unita, has spent his career in that moment. Unita is a national fit-out and construction business that has delivered more than 5,000 projects over two decades for brands including Supernormal, Sephora and Uniqlo, and Matt treats the money conversation as part of the design process. Camilla and Matt go back to where it started, after school in his parents' building supply store in Grafton, then into construction management and a stint on the client side that changed how he works as a builder. They unpack what value engineering really means once you're in the room, where to start when a project comes back over budget, and how Unita protects the hero elements by finding savings in the places customers never see. Matt walks through a GP clinic that priced at almost double the client's budget, the alternative sink that became a go-to spec, and the concrete bar at Hamsi at the new Sydney Fish Market that couldn't physically be poured. It's a conversation about being honest early, protecting what matters most, and making sure everyone leaves the job wanting to work together again. In this episode: How growing up in a country hardware store and sitting on the client side shaped the way Matt works as a builder What value engineering actually means, and the difference between smart solutions and cutting the guts out of a job Where to start when a project comes back over budget, and why function and durability come before finishes Keeping the design intent on a GP clinic that priced at almost double, and why a little extra time finds a better solution than the cheapest option Why trades are subject matter experts, and why you should never throw the architect under the bus Workshopping the micro cement bar at Hamsi at the new Sydney Fish Market, and how systems keep five teams in four states consistent Join The Behind The Design Collective https://youreinvited.behindthedesignco.au/ Follow the guest Unita website: https://unita.com.au Unita Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/unita/ Photography Hamsi: Sam van Dyke, Kosk Photography Place Wooloongabba: Scott Burrows Photography Follow Unfolded & Behind The Design: https://www.unfolded.com.au/ https://www.instagram.com/unfolded_ https://www.instagram.com/behindthedesignpod_/ 00:00 Intro 01:02 Welcome to Behind the Design 01:37 When the pricing comes back and the room goes quiet 02:36 Growing up in a Grafton building supply store 03:19 What the client side taught him 04:20 Choosing uni over the family business 04:59 Construction management and learning on the job 05:47 His first job: a bar for hospitality training 06:21 How he came to Unita 07:26 What value engineering actually means 10:56 When a project comes back over budget 12:25 A GP clinic priced at almost double 15:50 A word from Unfolded 16:06 The sink that became a spec 17:50 Earning a designer's trust 18:30 How many options is too many? 19:04 What trades see in a set of drawings 21:17 The line he won't cross 21:48 Never throw the architect under the bus 23:07 When something goes wrong on site 25:39 The concrete bar at the new Sydney Fish Market 26:58 What workshopping a problem looks like 28:27 Does Unita ever say no? 29:30 Systems and processes across four states 30:37 Staying technical as CEO 31:30 Three questions in three minutes 33:43 What people should understand about what goes on behind the design 34:13 Wrap up interior design residential interiors creative business design consultancy Behind the Design podcast Camilla Ingall Matt Lane Unita value engineering commercial fit-out hospitality fit-out office fit-out construction budgets design intent builder and designer collaboration working with trades Sydney Fish Market Hamsi Place Wooloongabba national construction business ChaptersKeywords