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And Also With You

The Reverend Lizzie McManus-Dail, The Reverend Laura Di Panfilo

A podcast on reclaiming an ancient Christian faith for modern Christian life, with the Reverend Lizzie McManus-Dail and the Reverend Laura Di Panfilo.

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S4 · E2
Monday · 1 hr 5 min
What is the role of white women in Christian Nationalism? With Live Laugh Love author, Kristin Kobes Du Mez
The MUCH anticipated new book from professor Kristin Kobes Du Mez is here: Live Laugh Love: The Secret History of White Christian Women and the World they Made. It is something of a companion to her NYT bestseller, Jesus and John Wayne. Whereas Jesus and John Wayne took a look at the roots and creation of an idolatrous vision of Jesus as ruggedly masculine and pro-Christian Nationalism, this book looks at the parallel process for women -- and this glittering, seductively saccharine world that is
S4 · E1
September 21 · 47 min
The Sin of Christian Nationalism
And Also With You is a podcast about reclaiming an ancient Christian faith for modern Christian life, helmed by two millennial women Episcopal priests and moms (Rev. Lizzie McManus-Dail and Rev. Laura Di Panfilo). For our fourth season we are diving deep into SIN, EVIL, and DEATH, and we're starting out with a bang: what is the sin of Christian Nationalism? The theology of MAGA Christian nationalism has nuances, but the connective tissue is this: the world is not safe, and God must be defended
June 29 · 1 hr
What is Confession?
Confessing our sins can be super liberating, but it is a practice that has been used to predatory ends. How do we approach "Confession" from a liberating standpoint, and what are ways we think about being forgiven as people who live in the real world? Join us for an enlivening, deep conversation with The Rev. Kelli Joyce on sin, confession, mercy, forgiveness, and what God has to do with it all.
June 22 · 54 min
What is Sin?
This is a rerun because we love this episode so much and want to listen to it again! The idea of "sin" has been weaponized, especially against marginalized folks. We've brought our colleague, friend, and brilliant theologian The Rev. Dr. Patrick Cheng to speak with us on sin, and why we're not giving up on the idea of sin even as liberated Christians. Father Patrick is a prolific writer, thinker, and leader in the church; in this episode, we're talking especially about his book, From Sin to ama
June 15 · 1 hr 9 min
What is Queer Ministry and Vocation?
What a weird and hard and scary time it is to be a queer person, and what a confusing time for both queer people and allies to understand alike to think through the relationship between the Christian faith and queerness, when so much is being said by Christians against queer and trans people. And yet, queer and trans and non-binary and gay and lesbian and bi Christians exist and more than arguments for our rights to exist, more than scriptural and theological underpinning for our legitimacy an
June 8 · 1 hr
Who is the Greedy Peasant?
Campy, funny, reverently irreverent -- we've all loved watching the Greedy Peasant's queer medieval fever dream unfold online. And we were thrilled when he said he'd come chat with us on the show! So join us for a fun, insightful, and moving conversation about art, playfulness, deconstructing from high control religion, and finding a path home to yourself.
S3 · E30
May 18 · 1 hr 2 min
100th Episode of And Also With You! (Season 3 Finale)
We can't believe it but here we are with our ONE HUNDREDTH EPISODE of And Also With You! If this podcast has helped you grow in your faith, would you consider supporting us with a donation?
S3 · E29
April 27 · 40 min
Who is St. Julian of Norwich? PART 02
What does the raucous laughter of Nicki Minaj and Billy Graham have to do with 14th century saint? Find out in PART TWO of our MOST requested episodes ever -- diving deep into the question "Who is Saint Julian of Norwich???" Author of Revelations of Divine Love, coiner of the phrase "All Shall Be Well," and delighter in God's delight, St. Julian is such a powerful visionary and leader we needed two episodes to do her justice. We're joined again by the The Rev. Dr. Amy Laura Hall, one of Lizz
S3 · E28
April 20 · 46 min
Who is St. Julian of Norwich? PART 01
What does Rage Against the Machine and motherly images of God have to do with a 14th century saint? Turns out ... a LOT. We are (finally) doing one of the MOST requested episodes ever -- diving deep into the question "Who is Saint Julian of Norwich???" And in order to dive into this saint whose revelatory witness of radical love, the wounds of Christ, and laughing at the nothingness of the devil, we have called in an expert: The Rev. Dr. Amy Laura Hall, one of Lizzie's professors from her time
S3 · E27
April 13 · 49 min
What is a Sermon?
The sermon may (or may not) be your favorite part of the service, but did you know not all Christian services have a sermon? And there are as many definitions of what a sermon "is" as there are preachers. So we dive into what a sermon is in the most basic terms, and then get into what a sermon is for us, and what we think makes the best kind of sermon.
S3 · E26
April 6 · 44 min
What is the Exsultet?
Easter is proclaimed in the Easter Vigil with a famous chant called "The Exsultet," and while we have lots of other famous chants and proclamations, this one is really special and has a wild backstory. So for Eastertide this year, we're excited to welcome Mother Laura back from her maternity leave and dive right into this liturgical, theological, and social history! Special thanks to The Rev. Kira Austin-Young who so expertly chanted the Exsultet for us!
S3 · E25
March 30 · 43 min
What is Temptation?
Lent begins with the story of Jesus being tempted in the wilderness by Satan. But ... what is temptation? As we come to the end of our 40 days of Lent now in Holy Week, we take a moment to truly ask of God and ourselves what temptation is, and is not.
S3 · E24
March 23 · 38 min
Who is the Woman at the Well?
The Samaritan Woman, also called The Woman at the Well, appears in John 4 in a long discourse with Jesus under the noonday sun. She famously has had many husbands and is currently "with" a man who is "not her husband," and yet ... she is also a pivotal evangelist, preacher, and leader for the early Jesus movement. We heard her story in Lent 3, Year A, so we're taking a moment dive deeper into this text and what it might to say to us who are reclaiming our Christian faith for modern Christian lif
S3 · E23
March 16 · 59 min
Who was St. Brigid?
Saint Brigid of Kildare is steeped in myth to people of Christian and Pagan faith, and she's one of the three patron saints of Ireland. Known for being an abbess who led orders of men and women; a nun who celebrated the Mass; a woman who shared a bed with her "anam cara" or "soulmate," fellow nun Darlughdach; for making a pregnancy miraculously disappear; and, bamboozingly, for being the patron saint of computers ... there's a lot to unpack about this fiery lady. Join friend of Rev. Lizzie and t
S3 · E22
March 9 · 46 min
What is the Nicene Creed? PART 12: Resurrection of the Dead
For part 12 of 12 on “What is the Nicene Creed?” we unpack these lines: "We look for the resurrection of the dead, and the life of the world to come. Amen." So... what is the world to come? What does it have to do with the resurrection of the dead?
S3 · E21
March 2 · 55 min
What is the Nicene Creed? PART 11: Baptism
For part 11 of 12 on “What is the Nicene Creed?” we unpack this line: "We acknowledge one baptism for the forgiveness of sins." So we wade into the muddy waters of the River Jordan to ask: what is sin, what does it mean to be forgiven, and how does this apply when some people are literally infants when they are baptized? What does God do when we are baptized? And why is this significant that it only happens once?
S3 · E20
February 23 · 42 min
What is the Nicene Creed? PART 10: One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church with The Rev. Dr. Valerie Bailey
For part 10 of 12 on “What is the Nicene Creed?” we unpack this lines: "We believe in one holy catholic and apostolic Church." ... which can feel strange, or outright ironic, when you are in a church that doesn't get along with ... the church across the street. How can we proclaim we are ONE church when Christianity is so obviously divided? How could the church 1700 years ago claim this, when division goes back to James and John vying to sit at the right hand of Jesus when he came into glory?
S3 · E19
February 16 · 53 min
What is the Nicene Creed? PART 09: We Believe in the Holy Spirit
For part 9 of 12 on “What is the Nicene Creed?” we unpack these lines: "We believe in the Holy Spirit, The Lord, the Giver of Life, Who proceeds from the Father and the Son, With the Father and the Son S/He is worshipped and glorified; S/He has spoken through the Prophets." The Holy Spirit is probably God's most misunderstood person of the Trinity ... and yet, the one who is our Advocate, guide, Wisdom, and companion. So we spend a little time understanding where She fits in the big picture of
S3 · E18
February 9 · 52 min
What is the Nicene Creed? PART 08: Jesus Ascended into Heaven & He will Come Again
For part 8 of 12 on “What is the Nicene Creed?” we unpack these lines: he ascended into heaven and is seated at the right hand of the Father He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead, and his kingdom will have no end. Ok so Jesus was born (Christmas), lived and did ministry and healed and taught and stuff, then was killed (Good Friday), and rose again (Easter) before he ... ascended into heaven. It's a big deal, but probably the most confusing part of his
S3 · E17
Dec 25, 2025 · 30 min
Merry Christmas 2025!
Merry Christmas friends, from us and ... a surprise guest!!

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