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Alan and Brent talk about Modern Testing (which isn't all that modern, and not really about testing - except when it is). Every other week or so, A&B tell stories and discuss what's happening in the world of software - including a variety of topics like Agile, Lean, Delivery, DevOps, Data Science, Experimentation, Leadership, and more.

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Saturday · 1 hr 3 min
Episode 238: Lana Begunova - Part 1
In this episode, Lana Begunova and Alan explore the intricacies of the human brain, creativity, AI, and innovation, sharing personal stories and insights into their mental processes and projects.
September 14 · 1 hr 1 min
AB Testing 237: Another Show About Everything and Nothing
In this episode, Alan and Brent discuss the challenges and strategies of modern software testing, deployment, and organizational culture. They share insights on continuous deployment, environment management, AI's role in testing, and building trust within teams.
September 9 · 51 min
Episode 236 - Molly Sheets
In this episode, Alan and Molly explore the evolving landscape of software development, AI's role in coding, systems thinking, and the future of tech education. They share personal stories, industry insights, and practical advice for navigating a rapidly changing tech world.
July 10 · 48 min
Episode 235: Who tf is Jevon?
In this episode, Alan and Brent explore the rapid evolution of AI, the implications of Jaevon's paradox, and how organizations can adapt to the changing technological landscape. They discuss the future roles of developers, the importance of critical thinking in education, and the ongoing shifts in the software industry.
June 23 · 52 min
Episode 234: Mobile Testing with Aditya Challa
In this episode, Alan and Aditya discuss the complexities of mobile testing, the impact of AI on software development, and how to adapt testing strategies for rapid development cycles. They explore challenges like device fragmentation, AI-driven automation, and future trends in mobile delivery.
June 16 · 48 min
Espisode 233: Empathy Elevated w/ Colette Molteni
In this episode, Alan and Colette explore the importance of empathy, self-awareness, and human skills in tech leadership, especially in the context of AI's rise. They share personal stories, practical strategies, and insights on developing emotional intelligence to foster better team dynamics and decision-making.
June 2 · 49 min
Episode 232: More AI with Prince Kohli
In this insightful interview, Prince Kohli, CEO of Sauce Labs, discusses the transformative impact of AI on software testing. Topics include how AI accelerates test creation, enhances stability, and reshapes roles in development and testing teams.
May 20 · 51 min
Episode 231: The B is Back
In this episode, Spy and a special guest explore the evolving landscape of software engineering, emphasizing the shift towards postmodern engineering principles that acknowledge the role of AI, organizational interaction, and probabilistic systems. They discuss how traditional concepts are becoming obsolete and propose a new framework for trustworthy, adaptive socio-technical systems.
May 5 · 54 min
Episode 230: Kat Obring is Back
In this insightful interview, Kat Obring discusses the evolving role of AI in testing and quality assurance, emphasizing good decision-making, automation, and the future of team collaboration. The conversation explores practical AI applications, decision frameworks, and how testers can stay relevant in a fast-changing landscape. More from Kat https://www.linkedin.com/in/katjaobring/ https://kato-coaching.com/
April 9 · 55 min
Episode 229: Testing in the Age of AI
In this engaging interview, Chris Armstrong from SmartBear discusses the evolving role of testing in the age of AI, emphasizing the importance of curiosity, system thinking, and responsible AI integration to ensure quality and trust in software development. https://smartbear.com/ai-software-quality-gap-report/ https://smartbear.com/blog/levels-of-autonomy-in-software-development-closing-the-gap-between-creation-and-confidence/
April 2 · 52 min
Episode 228: Hangin' with Shachin and Pulkit
Shachin Agarwal and Pulkit Agarwal join Alan for a discussion on AI in testing. https://evertest.ai
February 20 · 55 min
Episode 227: Elisabeth Hendrickson
In this engaging interview, Elisabeth Hendrickson shares her journey through the tech industry, her insights on systems thinking, and the principles behind her upcoming book 'Signals and Levers.' Discover how her experiences shape modern approaches to quality, leadership, and software delivery. Elisabeth's book: https://signalsandlevers.com/ Elisabeth's linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/testobsessed/ The Curious Duck website: https://curiousduck.io/
February 2 · 57 min
Episode 226: (REPLAY) The Croissants are Selenium w/ Jason Huggins
In this replay of episode 103, we are joined by Jason Huggins, the creator of Selenium, to discuss the true intent of the tool and why the industry has developed what Alan calls a 'tragic sickness' and an 'unhealthy infatuation' with UI automation. Driven by his belief that hand-crafted UI tests are an inefficient 'money pit' and a 'maintenance nightmare,' Alan challenges the traditional reliance on Selenium and advocates for developers owning automation to ensure better code design. Together with Huggins, we explore the history of the 'mercury monster' and the 'Steel Cage Match' while looking toward a future where robotics, AI-assisted record-and-playback, and data-driven experimentation replace brittle, legacy scripts
January 13 · 54 min
Episode 225: Walmyr's Journey
Summary In this episode of the AB Testing Podcast, host Spy welcomes back Walmyr, a seasoned QA engineer and educator, to discuss his journey in quality assurance, the importance of quality culture in software development, and the transition to agile environments. Walmyr shares insights on his experiences with test automation, the significance of effective test design, and the challenges of navigating job changes and company culture. The conversation also touches on personal growth, maintaining a healthy lifestyle, and the impact of remote work on team dynamics. Walmyr emphasizes the importance of continuous learning and knowledge sharing in the tech industry, making this episode a valuable resource for anyone interested in quality assurance and software development. More on Walmyr here: https://walmyr.dev/
Dec 30, 2025 · 58 min
Episode 224: 2026 End of Year Mayhem
In this episode of the A-B Testing Podcast, Spy, Walmyr, and Global Warming reflect on the past year, discussing their favorite books, podcasts, and entertainment from 2025. They delve into the importance of code review and refactoring in the age of AI, share personal finance strategies, and explore the evolving landscape of remote work. The conversation also touches on predictions for 2026, including the impact of AI on job markets and the future of work dynamics.
Dec 22, 2025 · 55 min
Episode 223: Lina Zubyte
Lina joins Spy this week to talk about metrics, her upcoming book, and a bit about AI (with a whole lot of ranting). More from Lina on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/linazubyte/
Dec 5, 2025 · 1 hr
Episode 222: Quality is a System
Spy is joined by Globalworming, and we talk about quality as a system, PCT hike statistics, and narrative fiction.
Nov 17, 2025 · 45 min
Episode 221: Project Management Thoughts w/ Timm Gleason
Brent is still on hiatus, so Spy-Friend Timm Gleason joins the podcast this week to talk about stuff - but especially Spy's rant's on project management.
Nov 9, 2025 · 59 min
Episode 220: Spy Returns
Back after a long hiatus - or half back. No Brent this week, but Andreas Worm and Danny Faught listen while I tell trail stories
Apr 4, 2025 · 48 min
Episode 219: Mailbag and Goodbye For Now
We take on a mailbag question, and then talk a bit about the upcoming AB Testing hiatus as Alan prepares for a very long walk in the woods.

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