"What's after Code Mode" - Ep 07

Recorded October 12, 2026. Matt Carey from Cloudflare joins Dillon, Rhys, and Sunil as Code Mode turns one year old. We discuss where it came from, how it actually works, and what comes after it. Rhys explains Claude modding video games + the dead internet of Facebook Marketplace, Dillon describes the AI moment for normies, and Matt tells a story about a big defense contractor. LINKS / ON-SCREEN REFERENCES, IN ORDER LIFE UPDATES Dillon, Artifacts open beta https://x.com/dillon_mulroy/status/2105647446789374456 Rhys, Claude gave Inertial Drift custom servers + maps https://x.com/RhysSullivan/status/2106604353058697699 Rhys, Inertial Drift first-person mode https://x.com/RhysSullivan/status/2109689736860475597 PC Gamer, reskate modding platform https://www.pcgamer.com/games/sports/reskate-modding-platform-released/ Rhys, Muse lists a broken lamp https://x.com/RhysSullivan/status/2109042678205976921 CODE MODE Cloudflare, "Code Mode: the better way to use MCP" https://blog.cloudflare.com/code-mode/ Rhys, bash took 30 years, MCP was vibe coded in a weekend https://x.com/RhysSullivan/status/2109096851647721782 CodeAct (Apple) https://machinelearning.apple.com/research/codeact Matt, "Code Mode: give agents an entire API in 1,000 tokens" https://blog.cloudflare.com/code-mode-mcp/ Pi https://pi.dev OpenCode 2.0 https://x.com/opencode/status/2109680780779606057 Dillon, Code Mode + Jev in Pi https://x.com/dillon_mulroy/status/2105453668266873091 TypeSafe, Jev https://typesafe.ai/blog/introducing-system-one-models-and-jev QuickJS https://bellard.org/quickjs/ Cloudflare Computer https://blog.cloudflare.com/cloudflare-computer Vercel Run SDK https://vercel.com/blog/introducing-run Callscript https://github.com/vercel-labs/callscript WHAT'S NEXT AFTER CODE MODE? Kent C. Dodds, Kody https://kentcdodds.com/blog/introducing-kody-your-personal-software-factory Rhys, Executor v2 Gmail with a 5-minute cancel https://x.com/RhysSullivan/status/2108317018948792730 Max Stoiber, MCP Events in ChatGPT https://x.com/mxstbr/status/2105094948458803513 Unikernel https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unikernel Rhys, company brain with Jev https://x.com/RhysSullivan/status/2108586246855643293 Cap'n Web https://blog.cloudflare.com/capnweb-javascript-rpc-library/ Kenton Varda, Cloudflare OS https://x.com/KentonVarda/status/2084990137180590572 THE AI MOMENT FOR NORMIES Instinct https://instinct.com/ Olivia Levine, Instinct and the jumbotron https://x.com/oliviaalevine/status/2095705075633000815 Rhys, "the Slop Superhighway" https://x.com/RhysSullivan/status/2106488797638861123 Rhys on Figma's MCP restrictions https://x.com/RhysSullivan/status/2105315738982686899 Matt's AI Engineer talk, "MCP is middleware" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBYUvGOuotE&t=1251s SUBSCRIBE Subscribe on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@NextTokenShow and wherever you get your podcasts HOSTS + GUEST Dillon Mulroy - https://x.com/dillon_mulroy - https://dillonis.online/ - https://twitch.tv/dillon Rhys Sullivan - https://x.com/RhysSullivan - https://rhys.dev/ - https://executor.sh/ Sunil Pai - https://x.com/threepointone - https://sunilpai.dev/ Guest: Matt Carey - https://x.com/mattzcarey The Next Token - https://x.com/NextTokenShow - https://www.youtube.com/@NextTokenShow Sponsored by Cloudflare - https://www.cloudflare.com/