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🎙️ Most people think a restaurant R&D kitchen is where new dishes get invented. What I saw looked closer to a library than a laboratory.
In this solo episode I break down what restaurant R&D actually is, based on four years in fine dining at Mugaritz and Noma, then three and a half years doing R&D at Basque Culinary Center, and now as Senior Innovation Chef at Kraft Heinz. This is the on-ramp to next week's episode on De Nieuwe Winkel, the two-Michelin-star restaurant in Nijmegen that turned its R&D into a separate business.
In this episode we discuss:
🔹 What an R&D kitchen or test kitchen actually does on a normal Tuesday
🔹 Why R&D teams are physically separated from the service kitchen, and why that separation is structural rather than cosmetic
🔹 The seasonal pipeline problem: creating in January for an ingredient that only arrives in August
🔹 Why restaurants deliberately hold back portions they could have sold
🔹 Why the method, not the dish, is the actual asset a restaurant owns
🔹 Why some failures are deliberately left undocumented
🔹 Who actually gets hired into these rooms, and why food science degrees are not the entry point
🔹 What changes when a method leaves the restaurant and enters industry
🔹 Gold standard: what it means and why it matters
Mentioned in this episode:
📌 What Is a Corporate Chef? Breaking Down the Real Roles Inside Food Companies → [link]
📌 Jozef Youssef, Kitchen Theory, on the science of flavour and gastrophysics → https://open.spotify.com/episode/6zMM7znbNPttrHbpeuFWpj?si=993b10c091be4bde
📌 S1E14 John Regefalk, Basque Culinary Center → https://open.spotify.com/episode/3NvdgFKGaL8OcmzxEPB8z3?si=140203f4a7b84424
📌 Beyond the Pass, "The Recipe Was Never the Capability" → beyondthepass.substack.com
🎧 Fugitive Chefs explores what happens when chefs step outside the traditional kitchen path.
🌐 Website: www.fugitivechefs.com
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