163: Do Frameworks Still Matter Anymore?

DHH took the Rails World stage to announce that he and Basecamp are no longer writing code by hand, wouldn't necessarily recommend Rails for a new app, and are going all in on native. That kicks off this week's big question: in an era of agentic coding, do frameworks still matter? We also dig into Safari 27's WebKit release, which is packed with a Safari MCP for agents, customizable selects, the HTML model element, and a pile of CSS improvements. In Lightning News, GitHub Copilot's runtime moved to Rust, and OpenAI's agents hacked an Australian government Medicare portal. Timestamps 0:00 - Intro 2:36 - DHH's Rails World Keynote 12:28 - Do frameworks matter anymore? 19:50 - Safari 27 WebKit updates 37:32 - GitHub Copilot's runtime migrated to Rust 39:23 - OpenAI agents hacked an Australian government website 44:30 - What's making us happy News Paige: Safari 27 WebKit updates Jack: Do frameworks matter anymore? TJ: DHH's Rails World Keynote Lightning News GitHub Copilot's runtime migrated to Rust OpenAI agents hacked an Australian government website What's Making Us Happy Paige: Star Trek: Strange New Worlds TV series Jack: Learning Blackbird on guitar TJ: Ted Lasso TV series Thanks as always to our sponsor, the Blue Collar Coder channel on YouTube. Join us in our Discord, explore our website and reach us via email, or talk to us on X, Bluesky, or YouTube. Front-End Fire website Blue Collar Coder on YouTube Blue Collar Coder on Discord Reach out via email Tweet at us on X @front_end_fire Follow us on Bluesky @front-end-fire.com Subscribe to our YouTube channel @Front-EndFirePodcast