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DevOps Paradox · Yesterday · 48 min

DOP 369: Vibe Coding Without the Slop

#369: Vibe coding is great until it isn't, and the until part usually shows up fast. Ten different ways to calculate sales tax. An agent that switches programming languages in the middle of a request. One team on NodeJS, another on Python, and nobody with a rule about either. So who's supposed to stop that? Turns out that's a job now. Somebody has to tell the agents what they can and can't do, encode it, and then prove it held. In this episode, we speak with Dan Fernandez, Vice President of Product for Developer Services at Salesforce, about harness engineering, what actually counts as slop, and why Heroku isn't dead. Disclosure: Salesforce paid for Darin's travel and hotel to attend Dreamforce 2026. They did not review, approve, or influence this episode. The questions, the opinions, and the editing are ours. Dan's contact information: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danfernandez/ YouTube channel: https://youtube.com/devopsparadox Review the podcast on Apple Podcasts: https://www.devopsparadox.com/review-podcast/ Slack: https://www.devopsparadox.com/slack/ Connect with us at: https://www.devopsparadox.com/contact/

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#369: Vibe coding is great until it isn't, and the until part usually shows up fast. Ten different ways to calculate sales tax. An agent that switches programming languages in the middle of a request. One team on NodeJS, another on Python, and nobody with a rule about either. So who's supposed to stop that?

Turns out that's a job now. Somebody has to tell the agents what they can and can't do, encode it, and then prove it held.

In this episode, we speak with Dan Fernandez, Vice President of Product for Developer Services at Salesforce, about harness engineering, what actually counts as slop, and why Heroku isn't dead.

Disclosure: Salesforce paid for Darin's travel and hotel to attend Dreamforce 2026. They did not review, approve, or influence this episode. The questions, the opinions, and the editing are ours.

Dan's contact information:

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danfernandez/

YouTube channel:

https://youtube.com/devopsparadox

Review the podcast on Apple Podcasts:

https://www.devopsparadox.com/review-podcast/

Slack:

https://www.devopsparadox.com/slack/

Connect with us at:

https://www.devopsparadox.com/contact/

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